|
|
Post by Elliot Kane on Sept 8, 2012 5:46:57 GMT
In other words 'if it came down to sleep or typing, the book won'  |
|
|
|
Post by Libby on Sept 8, 2012 20:52:54 GMT
Haha, yes. And hopefully the CD, too! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifBut the CD won't be complete without Hayley... Kaitlynn Lusk would be tolerable; her vocals of the LOTR music are good, although her vocals of show tunes aren't quite as impressive. I was trying to think of what other artists they could possibly choose. Enya and Annie aren't classical singers, and they were already pretty well-known, with songs played on the radio. Do you think they would refuse Hayley for a theme song based on her popularity?  But I keep reminding myself that Howard Shore already knows about her, and might consider her because he's chosen her for his music before. The Carnegie Hall concert reminded me of some singers that might be good for this sort of music. Loreena and Sarah Mc.. I can't spell her name. Anyway, they both seem like potential candidates... or Canadadates; they're both Canadian, I think, and Howard Shore is also Canadian! They both have soft, ethereal type voices which they seem to like for elven-themed music. Who knows, though? |
|
|
|
Post by Elliot Kane on Sept 8, 2012 21:58:07 GMT
Indeed.
So much depends on the artistic direction for things like soundtracks. If they decide to go for a far more Dwarven/Nordic feel, similar to the Dwarven song in the trailer, the opportunity for female singers may not even be there, this time.
But then, they do get to visit with the elves as well... And three films is a LOT of music!
Considering the very strong New Zealand connection, the real surprise to me is that they didn't get Hayley in for LotR in the first place.
|
|
|
|
Post by Libby on Sept 8, 2012 22:28:17 GMT
Oh, it was way too early for Hayley back then! True, Hayley's album was out by the time the ROTK was released... but maybe not when the soundtrack was being made. She was too new. But remember, she did meet Howard Shore in New York a year after Pure was released! Enya was amazing, anyway, and I love Annie Lennox in Into the West, too. Back then, Hayley's voice would've been good for background vocals, maybe not really for theme songs. But now her voice is richer, and she interprets the emotions better now, too. So, her voice would be great in any way they'd want her to use it (and they'd better want her to!). Maybe it would be best for her to sing for the last movie, when Thorin passes away, and there's the war, and all that. Things might be more emotional, requiring more emotional music. There will be elves fighting in the battle. Have you seen the new photo released of Thranduil? He very much resembles Legolas, since he's supposed to be his father (I think). Well, the hair is similar. LOL Oh yeah, and any scenes where they're visiting Rivendell (which happens twice in the book), or in Mirkwood, would be great for elven music. Remember the new elf Tauriel? Then there's Galadriel. See, there are plenty of opportunities for elven music.  And much more femininity than the book has. Which is basically none. P.S. A new trailer is expected to hit sometime this month! |
|
|
|
Post by Elliot Kane on Sept 8, 2012 22:48:20 GMT
New trailer may equal new songs! Can certainly hope so!
Tolkien's world is really musical, and I love to hear that!
Think you've picked some great moments for possible Hayley songs there, Libby, I must admit. Thorin's death especially should be a fantastically emotional moment.
|
|
|
|
Post by Libby on Sept 8, 2012 23:57:08 GMT
But, that means we'd have to wait 2 years. But hopefully some elven music in the meantime could have some vocals by Hayley.  |
|
|
|
Post by Elliot Kane on Sept 9, 2012 9:56:03 GMT
We can certainly hope so! |
|
|
|
Post by chungchunglee on Sept 14, 2012 19:05:55 GMT
Sometimes I am confused by this thread as to whether Breaking the USA (Barriers) is a specific topic to be discussed about how only Haley will or could accomplish this feat or whether the topic is concerns how classical crossover in general can overcome the barriers. If it is the former then I think it is an almost insurmountable objective not just for Haley but for any single CC singer. First, CC as a distinct genre has almost become non existent. That in itself is a huge obstacle to overcome. Second, no individual CC vocalist is singularly up to the task whether domestic or foreign. I truly believe that to succeed in storming the bastion it must be done as a team of artists who feel they are up to the task and would like to accept the challenge. It would take the managers of various artist to communicate with each other to form groups of artists perhaps as many as four per group to consider banding together to put on mini tours. For instance if Haley, Josh Groban and Canadian Tenors as three of a group of four had their fans clamour to see a concert of their favourite vocalist then it would not take much to fill a venue and draw the attention of the media. Perhaps at the same time, a second group of four could start a similar tour on the opposite side of the country perhaps Jackie Evancho, Katherine Jenkins, Josh Page as three of four. I think what you would find is a cross pollenization of fans that ultimately benefits all artists and the genre. It is through collective effort that the bastion will fall. JMHO. Hello ! Gordie ! How do you do . I am NOT being dramatic , at least NOT this time , just wanna drop in & say that , I REALLY REALLY Love  the way you express your idea . I ESPECIALLY appreciate Highly, the phrase "Storm the Bastion" , & "Work as a Team of Artists" to "Crack into the American market" . Almost like the Strategic Plan of a Super-Hero Team , a variation of <Justice League Unlimited> . This time , it would be <Classical Crossover Angels' Adventure Team Unlimited> . i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifChungie |
|
|
|
Post by azincat on Oct 9, 2012 22:33:44 GMT
Indeed. So much depends on the artistic direction for things like soundtracks. If they decide to go for a far more Dwarven/Nordic feel, similar to the Dwarven song in the trailer, the opportunity for female singers may not even be there, this time. But then, they do get to visit with the elves as well... And three films is a LOT of music! Considering the very strong New Zealand connection, the real surprise to me is that they didn't get Hayley in for LotR in the first place. It looks like they have decided to go for a male voice to sing over the end credits of the first part of The Hobbit which would indicate more of a dwarven feel this time around - : www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/10/08/62953-neil-finn-of-crowded-house-provides-the-end-title-song-for-an-unexpected-journey/Of course, parts 2 and 3 may take a different approach! Edited to add: Sorry I hadn't noticed Libby's post about this on the Hobbit thread before posting here! |
|
|
|
Post by Libby on Oct 10, 2012 4:34:34 GMT
That's okay, I thought of posting it here, but since it doesn't really relate to Hayley that much, I decided to put it in the Hobbit thread only.
Yeah, I'm really hoping that since there's a new, lady elf, they might add more of a feminine touch in the music, too. There's always the hope that she could do background vocals! That won't get her a performance on the Academy awards, but it might give her a tiny bit more attention.
|
|
|
|
Post by tireman on Feb 3, 2013 17:55:10 GMT
Has anyone ever considered that Hayley might sound interesting and edgy if she attempted to sing with a hoarse voice? It's great that she's got such a pure voice and all, but there's nothing wrong with her experimenting vocally on days when things are scratchier than usual. It might even enhance her expressiveness. In fact, several great female singers have had voices with an occasional edginess, like Maria Callas, Kim Carnes and Janis Joplin. Obviously Hayley won't go that far, but it might help broaden her audience potential if she veered away from perfect pureness and applied some soul-stirring grit in spots. I actually agree. As long as it doesn't hurt her voice, I'd love to hear Hayley pull off something more edgy with a rasp. Being pure doesn't limit one to singing softly, in a way that gritty earthiness is just as natural IMO. And to Libby's point, Hayley may not be a rock/alternative singer, but she's surprised us before! I just think we should keep open minds - an artist should never be limited to their comfort zone, especially not by their fans!  -Rory If Hayley ever wants to reach the star status that I assume she would like I think some change is needed. Not that Hayley is over the hill; but she's not getting any younger. The U S is the largest country in the free world and the most lucrative market yet most people have not heard of her. Her resistance to adopting a more eclectic style is pigeon holing her as a classical only artist. Larry |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 18:50:51 GMT
That it may be Larry, but I also feel like Hayley herself doesn't really want anymore success. She seems content with what she's achieved and with the niche she's found. It's unfortunate for some of her fans (particularly us Americans  ) but it seems like she doesn't expect to break out anymore than she already has. Of course, I hope she proves me wrong, but until then I've made peace with that. What would be great is if someone hugely popular in America (like say, Adele) would reveal themself as a Hayley fan, and maybe tweet about her or something. Star power is immense in this day in age -Rory |
|
|
|
Post by martindn on Feb 3, 2013 22:41:29 GMT
Yes, Rory, I agree. I think Hayley is happy just to make what I'm sure is a good living. She has no ambitions of superstardom I'm sure. It is frustrating for us her fans, who would love to see her gain the success her talent deserves, but perhaps she still likes to be able to go to most places and not be recognised.
Actually, I think Jackie Evancho has mentioned Hayley as one of her main influences. But I think that Hayley is content to remain music's best kept secret.
There are many talented musicians out there who never achieve anything like waht Hayley has, and others with next to no talent who become world celebrities. Perhaps there is no justice you might think, yet not everybody wants to be world famous. Living a happy and fulfilled life can be more important, and I can't argue with that. I'm just glad that I know Hayley and have had the pleasure of hearing her sing.
Martin D
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 23:08:33 GMT
Exactly. For some reason it seems rare these days to find people who both have talent, and wish to be super-successful. It's almost like taboo nowadays to want to be everything you can, which frustrates me. It's another issue that's somewhat personal for me, because my own dreams/aspirations involve this type of achievement. Just because I want to be renowned for what I do doesn't mean I don't enjoy it and wouldn't be doing it no matter what. People with Hayley's stance don't bother me much, but I get very annoyed when I see someone living my dreams saying "I didn't want to be famous" or things like that. And then on the other hand you have a bunch of people who should be nowhere close to the spotlight who bask in it. Such is life I suppose
-Rory
|
|
|
|
Post by Libby on Feb 4, 2013 7:15:44 GMT
What would be great is if someone hugely popular in America (like say, Adele) would reveal themself as a Hayley fan, and maybe tweet about her or something. Star power is immense in this day in age -Rory Or better yet sing with them. Like Josh Groban or Michael Buble. |
|
But I keep reminding myself that Howard Shore already knows about her, and might consider her because he's chosen her for his music before.
And much more femininity than the book has. Which is basically none.
) but it seems like she doesn't expect to break out anymore than she already has. Of course, I hope she proves me wrong, but until then I've made peace with that.
