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Post by Elliot Kane on Aug 1, 2011 22:39:11 GMT
I honestly think it depends on how widely played Whispers In A Dream is. Every album ideally needs a 'killer track' if it's to sell well, and 'Whispers' may just be Hayley's best track since Dark Waltz.
I think a lot of people are going to hear that track and want it very badly. I know I do!
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Post by Dave on Aug 1, 2011 22:59:22 GMT
And we haven't even heard World In Union yet - which may have an even better chance of getting airplay than Whispers! Fingers crossed for that one too!  Dave |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Aug 1, 2011 23:10:32 GMT
Definitely agree there, Dave!  Hayley has a real chance of a number one hit, there, given the popularity of the Rugby, and if she gets THAT, the sky's the limit in terms of sales for Paradiso I was horrified when I first heard how long I'd have to wait to be able to buy it in Britain, but now I think Hayley's people have shown great sense and organised the whole thing superbly. I'll happily wait a few months if it means a load more recognition (And thus sales!) for Hayley (And yeah, I know - end of this month - but it has been a few months!  |
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Post by Libby on Aug 2, 2011 5:34:25 GMT
Hopefully the real answer to mlb's question didn't get lost in all this. As Martin said, the recent article said her album contract had "since been extended". There's no way to tell, but even if Paradiso isn't as successful as they hope (but I think it will be), they would have to absolutely crazy to "drop" such an amazing talent as Hayley.
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Post by martindn on Aug 2, 2011 21:56:00 GMT
Well Libby, Decca did, after all, refuse |The Beatles....
This time for once they seem to have the marketing and publicity well sorted. And I've always believed that that was all it would need for Hayley to be hugely successful.
They are even trying to promote her as "edgy" it seems. That is just an image they are projecting of course - in the hope of getting a few more sales. Don't for a minute think that Hayley has turned into poor Any Winehouse overnight... that she has lost her legendary good sense and self-control. I don't believe it personally. But if it helps in her success to project a diffeent image - who am I to argue.
They wouldn't put so much effort into an artist they didn't beleive was going to make it big. I have always believed that, from the first time I heard her sing over 8 years ago. I just didn't expect it to take so long....
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Post by Libby on Aug 3, 2011 4:33:47 GMT
Why on earth would I think she has turned into Amy Winehouse?  I'm just wondering if, once readers who are attracted by the sensational headlines, might they lose interest and move on once they see that things aren't quite so dramatic as they were led to think? Obviously if sensationalism is all they care about, then that's their problem. But I'm just wondering how well this is all going to go over as far as attracting readers with headlines. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Aug 3, 2011 17:52:48 GMT
It's not the articles that matter as such, Libby. Once people have read the name 'Hayley Westenra', the rest is almost unimportant. They'll remember reading it, remember seeing her picture and hopefully may choose to check out her singing as a result. Bizarre as it seems, it's not so much WHAT is written about an artist, but raising their profile. People are simply more likely to check out music by people they've heard of, regardless of how or why... Sounds completely mad, doesn't it? But people get curious to find out what the fuss is all about if an artist gets talked about enough. It's only those of us who are already fans who worry about article quality |
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Post by Libby on Aug 4, 2011 6:29:20 GMT
Yes, it's good that Hayley's been in the papers a lot. And now that I think about it, there might be a lot of young women reading this who have felt the same way she did about eating and weight, and so they can identify with her. An article that shows the more human side of her, as opposed to the angelic, "pure" side, is good publicity for her. I just hope they don't continue to pry and make her spill her guts like this. And I still don't like the title.  |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Aug 5, 2011 15:38:15 GMT
Indeed, Libby People find it hard to relate to someone who seems to have a 'perfect' life, with no troubles. Now they can see she is a real human being behind the angelic voice, that won't hurt one bit. |
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Post by failedreaper on Aug 7, 2011 4:55:29 GMT
Even if Decca were to drop Hayley, which would be a mistake on their part, how hard would it really be for her to get signed on with another record label? i wouldn't imagine that she would have an issue with not getting picked up by someone else  |
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Post by comet on Aug 23, 2011 13:47:53 GMT
I think if Paradiso sells as many or more than Treasure in the UK, she will be fine. That won't be easy though, even though Treasure sold 'only' around 80,000 here I think - but the way the promotion is going so far makes me hopeful. Dave Prior to all the radio promotion I would have been fairly confident that Paradiso will out sell Treasure. I am getting my hopes up even more now, maybe even out sell PURE.. Ennio has a huge fanbase worldwide, although his recordings were often difficult or impossible to obtain through main street retailers, this has all changed utterly with the advent of internet selling, almost anyone, anywhere in the world can track down an item or recording they want. I got The Mission first time around on 12 inch vinyl around 1986, It is still regularly in stock in HMV on CD, Once upon a time In America (The Deborah's theme one) I didn't get until it was released on CD. I missed Cinema Paradiso altogether , have no idea why, must get it sometime. I think Paradiso will continue to sell for decades into the future (In some format, CD, download or whatever format the future holds) Morricone's music is not like "pop" music which has a short shelf life. Most people are introduced to Morricone's music through movies, but many classical stations are now playing Morricone music on a very regular basis, Lyric fm here in Ireland at times will play up to four tracks a day by Morricone, They will be getting a lot of requests for tracks from Paradiso as soon as it is released, Hope some of you guys help in the campaign, Lyric FM Ireland broadcast countrywide. Pick a programme from the e-mail list at the bottom of the page in this linkFor Instance :
Cynthia Morahan
Antipodean Cynthia came to RTÉ lyric fm in 2005 from Radio New Zealand where she worked as a news reader, continuity announcer and music presenter.
Previous to the call of radio, Cynthia worked as an arts journalist & copywriter and spent five years working in the New Zealand film and television industry.
Lyric is the culmination of two of her great loves; music and talking.
Hear Cynthia on:
Lyric Through the Night: Nightly, 1-7amTell them what country you are in and that you listen online and would love to hear "something from Paradiso |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Aug 23, 2011 23:44:52 GMT
Here's one for the experts: Why hasn't Hayley tried her hand at acting? Many singers act, and they sometimes win Oscars when they do (Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, Jennifer Hudson & others). Josh Groban, it so happens, is a fine actor, too.
Hayley has played various roles throughout her school years so she's not exactly a novice when it comes to theatrical work. Yet she seems to steer clear of acting nowadays. I don't get it.
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Post by martindn on Aug 23, 2011 23:54:43 GMT
Why act when you have a voice like Hayley's? The world's finest singer doesn't need to be an actress too.
Well, yes, I'm sure she could do it. Even though she has never been to drama school. She might even do it someday, who knows. But singing is what she loves, it is what she is good at. If you are the best in the world at something, why would you choose to do something else that you might not be the best in the world at?
She puts her effort into her music. I'm sure that is it. There is only so much time to perfect something.
Perhaps it is like asking Ronaldo why he doesn't play Rugby or cricket....
And personally, I'd much rather hear Hayley sing.
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Post by Libby on Aug 24, 2011 20:42:40 GMT
Steve, are you kidding me? "Steering clear"? That's ridiculous. You know exactly why she hasn't done acting yet. She's done interviews where they've asked her this kind of question, and she says she is interested. It's just that she's been so busy and focused on her recording and touring. I don't think it's that she doesn't WANT to, she just hasn't had an opportunity yet! And in case you didn't see, she is going to be a guest on Rhydian Roberts' show, whatever that may be, so that's better than nothing. While I do agree that acting might help, she certainly shouldn't sacrifice her singing career for such things. As for Josh, yes, he is good as an actor, but then, he doesn't really have to act. He's so funny on his own, all he has to do is be himself. Hayley also has a great personality, so she would be great at it too. But right now she has to promote an album and tour. So let's not be impatient. |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Aug 24, 2011 21:07:10 GMT
Why act when you have a voice like Hayley's? The world's finest singer doesn't need to be an actress too. ... Thanks Libby and Martin. Hayley has my vote as the world's finest singer, hands down. Sinatra was arguably the finest crooner of his era and Streisand was undeniably the most successful female singer of her generation, yet both felt an overwhelming need to act. And Libby, "steer clear" is my way of suggesting Hayley has not made the effort to audition or place her name into consideration for acting jobs. Maybe if she were more pro active around this she would alert the right people. Needless to say, it would be a boon to her career if she had recognition in another category. I can accept that singing is the dominant theme in her talent package, but it wouldn't hurt her that much to expand her horizons and take in a wider career experience. Especially since she's expressed a sincere interest in doing so. |
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