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Post by tireman on Jul 10, 2011 2:28:06 GMT
Hi Guys, No need to be negative. Hayley will always appeal to a minority of people wherever they are. She will never be huge like Gaga or Madonna - we shouldn't expect that and should not be disappointed when she doesn't sell like those artists. The thing is that music appeals to people on different levels. Music can have physical appeal, make you want to dance or be sexy. It can have emotional appeal, or intellectual appeal. Or spiriual appeal, and for me Hayley'sappeal is primarily spiritual, with emotion as a secondary string to her bow. Now there are a lot of people out there that do not even recognise their own spiritual identity, let alone see it in someone else. Spirituality is derided and educated out of people in most societies in the world. So how can they be expected to understand a performer who is as mindblowingly spiritual as Hayley? All they are left with is the emotional content. And in that respect, there are pleny of others that do it better. OK there is the technical aspect too, and in that Hayley is second to none. But very few people know how to recognise technical excellence in a musician. Just look at the voting on any TV talent show and you will see what I mean. But there are still plenty of spiritually aware people in the world, in all contries and despite all that popular culture can do to hide that part of us from ourselves. And those people will understand, and love Hayley. That is the best she can hope for, but it is enough! To me Hayley is an inspiration, she lifts my spirits and makes me realise that God really does love me. That is a huge blessing, and something I am very grateful to Hayley for showing me. I know I am not the only one. And although we may be a minority, it is a significant enough minority to give Hayley a worthwhile following in pretty much any country she chooses to promote herself in. She is popular in Japan, Taiwan, mainland China even. If she can do it there, she can do it anywhere, even the USA! Martin D Hi Martin I hope you're right. I know this there is something about her voice that has a mystical quality. When I was recuperating from my accident I'm convinced that listening to Hayley lifted my spirits and sped up my recovery. If her people could get her a PBS special in the U S I think it may help her. Jackie Evancho had one a few weeks ago to introduce her new album. I think if Hayley to get one to introduce Paradiso it may help. The people that watch PBS are the right type of folks that would appreciate her type of music. Larry |
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Post by Jillian on Jul 10, 2011 2:35:07 GMT
Hi Guys, No need to be negative. Hayley will always appeal to a minority of people wherever they are. She will never be huge like Gaga or Madonna - we shouldn't expect that and should not be disappointed when she doesn't sell like those artists. The thing is that music appeals to people on different levels. Music can have physical appeal, make you want to dance or be sexy. It can have emotional appeal, or intellectual appeal. Or spiriual appeal, and for me Hayley'sappeal is primarily spiritual, with emotion as a secondary string to her bow. Now there are a lot of people out there that do not even recognise their own spiritual identity, let alone see it in someone else. Spirituality is derided and educated out of people in most societies in the world. So how can they be expected to understand a performer who is as mindblowingly spiritual as Hayley? All they are left with is the emotional content. And in that respect, there are pleny of others that do it better. OK there is the technical aspect too, and in that Hayley is second to none. But very few people know how to recognise technical excellence in a musician. Just look at the voting on any TV talent show and you will see what I mean. But there are still plenty of spiritually aware people in the world, in all contries and despite all that popular culture can do to hide that part of us from ourselves. And those people will understand, and love Hayley. That is the best she can hope for, but it is enough! To me Hayley is an inspiration, she lifts my spirits and makes me realise that God really does love me. That is a huge blessing, and something I am very grateful to Hayley for showing me. I know I am not the only one. And although we may be a minority, it is a significant enough minority to give Hayley a worthwhile following in pretty much any country she chooses to promote herself in. She is popular in Japan, Taiwan, mainland China even. If she can do it there, she can do it anywhere, even the USA! Martin D Hi Martin I hope you're right. I know this there is something about her voice that has a mystical quality. When I was recuperating from my accident I'm convinced that listening to Hayley lifted my spirits and sped up my recovery. If her people could get her a PBS special in the U S I think it may help her. Jackie Evancho had one a few weeks ago to introduce her new album. I think if Hayley to get one to introduce Paradiso it may help. The people that watch PBS are the right type of folks that would appreciate her type of music. Larry Hi Larry! Definitely. It was Live in New Zealand that made me a fan of Hayley and there's something so enrapturing about her live performances which can't be captured on CD. I have very high hopes indeed for a PBS special for this album! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif I can feel it in my waters! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif Cheers, Jillian |
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Post by Libby on Jul 10, 2011 5:55:18 GMT
Well, my desire is not to get her chased after by paparazzi all the time. I think she is already fairly well-known in the classical crossover world, even somewhat in the US (Americans do like Andrea Bocelli, Sarah Brightman, Jacke Evancho, etc.). Even if she were very popular in the US, I just don't think she's in the "right" genre for very much paparazzi attention. Not to mention the fact she doesn't "fall out of bars" or do anything else very gossip-worthy. I mainly just want her to be popular enough for it to be worthwhile for her to tour around the country. She doesn't need to be chased around by paparazzi in order for that to happen. Josh Groban and Celtic Woman manage to do so without any such thing happening, none that I've ever heard of at least. But the biggest reason is that when I imagine Hayley's voice being heard in the movie theater (for the Hobbit, of course), or performing the theme song at the Academy awards, I just imagine all the people who would finally get to hear how wonderful she is, and want to go buy her CDs, go to her concerts, etc. If anything like that ever happens, knowing I had something to do with it, I would feel so happy. It's not even just about popularity for me. It's about more people having the opportunity to know what a wonderful singer and person she is. Yes, another PBS special would do her some good. And I'm not ruling out that possibility for the near future.  |
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Post by tireman on Jul 10, 2011 21:54:16 GMT
Well, my desire is not to get her chased after by paparazzi all the time. I think she is already fairly well-known in the classical crossover world, even somewhat in the US (Americans do like Andrea Bocelli, Sarah Brightman, Jacke Evancho, etc.). Even if she were very popular in the US, I just don't think she's in the "right" genre for very much paparazzi attention. Not to mention the fact she doesn't "fall out of bars" or do anything else very gossip-worthy. I mainly just want her to be popular enough for it to be worthwhile for her to tour around the country. She doesn't need to be chased around by paparazzi in order for that to happen. Josh Groban and Celtic Woman manage to do so without any such thing happening, none that I've ever heard of at least. But the biggest reason is that when I imagine Hayley's voice being heard in the movie theater (for the Hobbit, of course), or performing the theme song at the Academy awards, I just imagine all the people who would finally get to hear how wonderful she is, and want to go buy her CDs, go to her concerts, etc. If anything like that ever happens, knowing I had something to do with it, I would feel so happy. It's not even just about popularity for me. It's about more people having the opportunity to know what a wonderful singer and person she is. Yes, another PBS special would do her some good. And I'm not ruling out that possibility for the near future. Hi Libby Did PBS show the Jackie Evancho special in your area? If Hayley could get them to do one for her it would be great. I've e mailed them several times and they said that if an artist didn't have an event coming up in the area they wouldn't do a special for them. I suppose this being the slow time of year here for concerts they did Jackie's for a fund raiser. Having said that I suppose that since the album is being released in October here in the states it might be harder to get them to do a special unless Hayley were to be doing a concert in the area. Well I'll keep bugging them nevertheless. Larry |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jul 11, 2011 2:50:11 GMT
...She is popular in Japan, Taiwan, mainland China even. If she can do it there, she can do it anywhere, even the USA! ... Back in 2004 I was able to find Hayley's "My Gift to You" at HMV in New York City. I told the store manager how rare an item this was and he said to me that Hayley is very popular with their Asian customers. There are many Chinese and Japanese people living in the USA and they might be a good place to start in terms of marketing Hayley in this country. |
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Post by Libby on Jul 12, 2011 6:36:31 GMT
How do you go about that? There are Asian communities all over! I know there are a lot in CA and the Northwestern states, including western Washington!  We have a few Asian-American members here on this forum, too, don't we? |
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Post by Libby on Jul 12, 2011 6:42:22 GMT
Yes, I saw a little bit of the Jackie Evancho special (I couldn't take it for very long, especially the Hayley songs  ). I don't think PBS decides whether an artist has a show or not, at least not all by themselves. I'm guessing an artist's management or record company has to help arrange that. At the very least, Hayley's album will have to be released first, and yes, if she had some shows here, there is even more likelihood that they'd have a PBS special. But we'll just have to find out. Is it October yet? :wink: I am looking forward to the UK release in August though.  |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jul 29, 2011 20:31:03 GMT
I think there is a huge difference between being 'a popular artist' and being 'a popular artist in one country'. Hayley is, apparently, the world's best selling soprano, so she can't really be considered unpopular by any stretch. The problem, I think, is that her fans are not concentrated in the way of many artists, but rather spread across the globe. That can lead us to think she is less popular than is really the case. Is she going to fill Madison Square Garden any time soon? Probably not. But if her fans were more concentrated in one nation, I'd bet she could fill it many times over. As with so many things, 'big' or 'small' is merely a matter of perspective |
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Post by Libby on Jul 30, 2011 5:12:41 GMT
Well, maybe not Madison Square Garden in NY, but maybe another appearance at the Concerts in the Square in Madison, Wisconsin. She's done it before, maybe she could do it again. Better than nothing, at least she'd have a lot of Wisconsin fans! |
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Post by Libby on Oct 10, 2011 6:58:06 GMT
Right now on Twitter, a trending topic is #MyFavoriteSongsEver. I've just done a whole bunch of Hayley songs, including youtube links to the songs. Since hundreds of people are posting at once, my posts show up in the trend search (click on the topic) only briefly, but since I did a bunch, a few of them showed up at once. It would be great if some of you other tweeters could help out, so it won't be just one person doing it. I have to go to bed now, too. Let's bombard it with Hayley songs! |
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Post by postscript on Oct 10, 2011 8:54:33 GMT
Well, I had a go at it Libby but have to confess could not find your tweets and only picked up three hayley mentions which I retweeted. Probably down to me, I haven't really got the hang of these things and the fact that I tweet as Peewit2 rather shows my flippant attitude, although I have to confess I am getting hooked on both social developments!
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Post by Libby on Oct 10, 2011 19:57:19 GMT
Well, I got Frank (Ohiyooo) to retweet nearly all of mine, so that helps. Yeah, by the time you did it, mine probably were no longer visible on the search page, but if you go to my Twitter page, they're still visible. I am @libbywa, twitter.com/#!/LibbyWA (Sorry it won't show it as a whole link  ) I'm planning to do some more today. Another interesting thing I discovered is, if you post a youtube video link, and you click on the entire tweet, a sidebar will come up, and the actual video will show up, and you can play it right there! I never knew you could do that before! edit by Joe - fixed link. |
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Post by postscript on Oct 19, 2011 9:59:00 GMT
Hi everyone. In his post concert post at Llandudno, Grant wrote: "By now, Ash is anxious to be away as it is past 11.30 but Hayley was deep in conversation with Peter (I’m sure Peter will fill in the details) and wasn’t to be rushed." Okay. To some extent I can now fill in those details. Regretfully I discovered that Hayley was travelling back to town that night and not staying over when I had hoped she would have time to spare. What I wanted was a deep discussion but having whispered in Ash's ear that I had indicated to her on her arrival that I was anxious to "nobble her" (a colloquialism for grabbing a minute of her time) Ash relented just when he was anxious to escort her away. To attempt to talk with her earlier would have been totally wrong. Fortunately, I had covered the contingency by printing out the key aspects of what I wanted to say to her. She assured me she would read it, although I had said to her I didn't expect her to do so but to pass it on to Sara or someone else. Very simply, it was a unique connection with my home town and her Abbey service: the composer of the music to which the hymn she sang was set is a Berkhamsted man and the bearer of the main RLB banner is also a Berkhamsted man--I assume they take it in turns around the branches. On top of that I am a former mayor of my home town, as is the person behind the launch of DeeTV, a local initiative under the new company aegis of Community Interest Company (CIC). At the time, I wanted to attract her attention for two reasons. One was to help promote www.DeeTV.tv, with the link to Hayley and the composer and also to update Hayley on the new initiatives, for her staff to be aware of possible future general publicity matters, such as ensuring the local tv stations are aware of her concerts and being prepared to give them perhaps a videoed interview to help her general promotion, as well as specific concert promotions when in their area. A couple of such stations have started in the south west but DeeTV is in the forefront and has a potential audience of perhaps a quarter of a million, as the borough of Dacorum (hence the 'D' tv) crosses two parliamentary constituencies. One of them is also the constituency in which I once stood as a parliamentary candidate. Linking Hayley to a local man helps to broaden knowledge of her in a general sense rather than specifically as the singer which is the way I believe her promotional people should use these new web media. However, while there has been some tweet messaging between us, Hayley was in an invidious position (although I did write to her, 'don't feel bad about simply saying "no"' to me), to which she responded with her usual mastery of the situation, avoiding at this stage that statement. We were wanting to link the composer, Hayley, the Abbey, our town and the local RBL with Remembrance coming up but of course Hayley knew what she could not tell me, that a specific DVD [my error, which has caused some confusion, I should have written 'CD') was due out. HWI have covered this as www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueXBOtTdSoQ) and so Hayley had to duck my interactions very sotto voce. Having acquired Lord and Lady Corbett as patrons (he a former MP here and she an author, extensive charity worker and past winner of an 'Inspirational Woman of the Year" award); both the current MPs; and another peer whom we both happen to know, we felt we were of a sufficient status as to involve Hayley directly, or indirectly. Anyhow, I have shared this update because I have just had an interesting 'emergency call' from DeeTV. Can we borrow your tripod? Their tripods cost twice as much as my camera! But their pro cameras are surprisingly light, being principally shatter-proof rigid plastic, the weight being solely the lens, electronics and battery so they can doubtless cope with my more limited equipment. Two tripod cameras for a talking head interview? Sounds like they are going to town. The interviewee? Wasn't Geoffrey Stephens as I earlier reported but another Geoffrey (Palmer). He does a lot of work such as in "As Time Goes By", especially with Judy Dench in "Tomorrow Never Dies", "Mrs Brown" etc. He is anti HS2 (A newly planned high speed rail link cutting through some prime country heritage and was apparently there for half the day!) The composer Geoff's interview is still in the 'tying up the detail' phase, hence the shinanigans but all else is as previously stated. Interesting day so far! Yours aye Peter S. |
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Post by Richard on Oct 19, 2011 13:51:19 GMT
We were wanting to link the composer, Hayley, the Abbey, our town and the local RBL with Remembrance coming up but of course Hayley knew what she could not tell me, that a specific DVD was due (elsewhere located on HWI, perhaps a mod could link?) and had to play my interactions very sotto voce. Hello Peter and everybody!  The only information we have about a DVD of the Royal British Legion's 90th Anniversary Service in Westminster Abbey is HERE. I can't find any details on the Legion's website at the moment. Richard  |
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Post by Roger-G on Oct 19, 2011 16:52:44 GMT
Yes the Service was videoed, and I was assured at the time that a DVD was to be produced. I don't have a date for this but an email to RBL might get more information.
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