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Post by roger on Jul 24, 2008 16:40:34 GMT
Hi Jon,
That is something that I have wondered myself and I indend to ask again whenever a suitable opportunity arises. Until then, I am really not sure.
Roger
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Post by martindn on Jul 26, 2008 21:20:04 GMT
Hi Jon,
Just seen this, still catching up after my hols I guess. But I would be interested to know where that information came from. I gave them a good ear bending in my reply to the mailshot about ROD, mostly about the Japanese album, and saying that most of my favourite Hayley songs were not on the list they gave, so maybe these "new" songs are only new to the UK, rather than genuinely new. We shall see!
Martin
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Post by milewalker on Jul 26, 2008 21:45:49 GMT
Chatting to Andy Moore last night, who is involved with the studio sessions, apparently we are to receive six new helpings of Hayley on "River Of Dreams". I did not press him to say what they were. Hi Martin, I may have actually asked this question in the wrong thread.....my bad! Anyway, this is the source - from the compilation album thread. I was apparantly thinking along the same lines as you because that was why I put the word "new" in quotes above. "songs only new to the UK". Martin? I was unaware they had been released anywhere but Japan  Jon |
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Post by martindn on Jul 27, 2008 17:21:24 GMT
Hi Jon,
You are right, but I wasn't sure in which countries ROD will be released! They will only be new Hayley songs in other places if they are released there, if you get my rather convoluted drift.
Martin
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Post by gra7890 on Nov 24, 2008 18:40:30 GMT
Hi Everyone, As a consequence of Hayley's present poor health   her schedule for early next year now appears very full of concerts.  There is the Valentine's tour with Jonathan Ansell, and also, as nothing has been re-arranged in the period found for the  Japan tour, that may still be in the pipeline!
HEREHave the re-arranged River of Dreams Concerts therefore been put in the slot when Hayley was due to be in London working on the 4th International Album If so we may have to wait a little longer for it ! Graham |
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Post by roger on Nov 24, 2008 20:03:09 GMT
Have the re-arranged River of Dreams Concerts therefore been put in the slot when Hayley was due to be in London working on the 4th International Album We don't know for certain Graham, but I doubt it. For one thing, I am not aware that a slot had been allocated to the recording of the next album. We last heard that work would begin somewhere during the middle of the year but that doesn't necessarily mean the recording itself. There is a lot of work to be done before an artist sets foot inside the studio. If the recording sessions had been fixed, I think it is highly unlikely that they would be changed to fit in a few concerts. It is more likely that the concerts would be fitted in around the recording sessions. As ever, we will have to wait and see. Roger |
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Post by Libby on Nov 24, 2008 21:25:11 GMT
Have the re-arranged River of Dreams Concerts therefore been put in the slot when Hayley was due to be in London working on the 4th International Album We don't know for certain Graham, but I doubt it. For one thing, I am not aware that a slot had been allocated to the recording of the next album. We last heard that work would begin somewhere during the middle of the year but that doesn't necessarily mean the recording itself. There is a lot of work to be done before an artist sets foot inside the studio. If the recording sessions had been fixed, I think it is highly unlikely that they would be changed to fit in a few concerts. It is more likely that the concerts would be fitted in around the recording sessions. As ever, we will have to wait and see. In my mind, she should already have a head start on the album with the new recordings for RoD, unless Decca is going to be dumb (as usual) and not put "Songbird" or "Now is the Hour" on her new album. I'm at least hoping Songbird will be on the American version, since there is no American version of RoD. And what about the song "Time after Time"? That song was once on the tracklist, so I assume that means she recorded it. Why would it have been on the list at all if she hadn't? And now, since we know it's not on any version of RoD that we can tell, are they just going to throw it away and not use it? Andy Moore's website says he played guitar for 4 new songs on RoD. This was posted back in August, and Hayley said she started recording in March. The album only lists his name for "Now is the Hour". There's no guitar in Songbird or Ave Maria. I'm guessing "Majesty" has guitar, and possibly the mysterious "Time after Time" recording. So, now that's 3. What's the 4th one? There must be another new song! Maybe that was when Hayley still thought she was recording for a new album. I doubt Majesty will make it onto the new album, though, unless it's just the NZ version again. Didn't she also hint that she would do more song-writing for the next album, and that it would be "unique"? So, she must already have an idea of what she wants to do. So, it's my opinion (and hope) that she already has a song or 2 ready for the new album. |
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Post by roger on Nov 24, 2008 21:45:21 GMT
And what about the song "Time after Time"? That song was once on the tracklist, so I assume that means she recorded it. Hi Libby, I honestly have no idea what happened to 'Time After Time'. All I can do is to offer a fairly general explanation which may or may not be true in this case. We know from experience that songs can be recorded and mixed in the expectation that they will be included on an album having received the provisional approval of the copyright owners. In reaching that stage, let's assume that the artist has written an additional verse. When the original songwriters hear it (which they can only do after the recording), they are within their rights to object to it being used. So, even at that late stage, it may have to be dropped. Like I say, that may not be the reason in this case. All I will say is that it has been known to happen. It is also common practise to record more tracks than will be needed for an album. Being recorded is no guarantee that they will be used. It merely means they are on the shortlist. Only then will the decision be made as to what the exact tracklisting will be. Inevitably, two or three tracks will be dropped. Hayley did more than hint that she would be writing songs for the next album. She told several HWI members that she was doing so when they saw her in Croydon last year. As ever, plans can change but I think it is very likely that we will hear some original Hayley material whenever it is released. Roger |
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Post by Libby on Nov 26, 2008 5:25:39 GMT
I actually won't be terribly disappointed if Time after Time isn't put on an album, but I was very interested in hearing her sing it. I want to hear everything she recorded that they didn't use! Whatever happened to her next album being released in May 2009? I suppose that was probably just a rumor, but it got my hopes up too high. So, might it be another year before it's really out?  |
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Post by nicola on Mar 19, 2009 0:00:09 GMT
I'd assume there's no news on this, otherwise there would have been posts about it before she even realised she was recording for a new album.  The good thing about holding out on some releases is that you can get "new" albums whenever you want. I recently got HSJS and Prayer, and am still waiting for HSPS2. Three new albums in 2009. XD |
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Post by Libby on Mar 23, 2009 19:58:31 GMT
Someone who went to one of her recent concerts said she mentioned recording in May... I assume a new album. It's about time for an entirely new album.
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Post by martindn on Mar 24, 2009 21:53:08 GMT
Well, i predicted that last year in my 2009 predictions. But that was a guess, you can't read any more than that into it.
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Post by Jillian on Apr 30, 2009 3:59:23 GMT
Hi everyone,
I was just reading Katherine Jenkins' Wikipedia page and I noted the staggering speed at which she has released albums. Is this normal for a classical cross-over artist? I suppose the fact that Katherine signed a 10 million pound record deal with Warner music when she completed her side of the bargain with Universal may have had something to do with the speed.
I suppose when you're not having to spend long hours in the studio composing songs from scratch, albums would be much faster to produce.
Granted, Hayley has had some big projects like the Il Divo tour and Celtic Woman which would have stopped her producing new material at such a rate.
But I suppose, Hayley has released those 2 extra Japanese albums... so if you include them in the mix you have original albums released in:
2000 (Walking in the Air)
2001 (Hayley Westenra)
2001 (My Gift to You)
2003 (Pure)
2005 (Odyssey)
2007 (Celtic Treasure)
2008 (HSJS)
2009 (HSJS2)
So that's still impressive! I just wish the 2008 and 2009 ones were released here...
I'm so curious as to what the plans are for this next album...
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Post by thomas on Apr 30, 2009 19:55:33 GMT
Hi Jillian! You're right. We must include HSJS and HSJS2. Recording those albums took a lot of time and effort. So there's little time for a completely new international album. We should leave Hayley the time she needs and I'm sure we won't be disappointed.  Thomas |
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Post by milewalker on Apr 30, 2009 20:46:35 GMT
The only problem with this is that the Japanese albums do nothing to maintain her profile elsewhere- while what you say is probably true as far as it goes Thomas, the passage of time does concern me.
Jon
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her schedule for early next year now appears very full of concerts. 
Japan tour, that may still be in the pipeline!
