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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 20:11:49 GMT
I was wondering, to all of us Hayley fans out there, do you listen to any other musical genres that are quite different from classical crossover/pop? Although It's hard enough already to find other Hayley fans here in New York, most of my musical friends are fans of completely different styles, as am I, in addition to Hayley of course. I was raised on hard rock and blues music, and in more recent years I've also gotten into fusion and even metal, which couldn't be further from what Hayley does, but I love it just as much. My favorite artists (besides Hayley!  are Angra, Audioslave, Soundgarden, Richie Kotzen, Guthrie Govan, and Kiko Loureiro to name a few. -Rory |
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Post by martindn on Jan 7, 2013 20:50:55 GMT
Hi Rory,
Well, I love most kinds of music, although I have to admit I have never really got into jazz.
That includes real classical music (I go to a lot of classical concerts), folk, Celtic, church music and prog rock. My favourite artists outside of CC are all getting on a bit now, perhaps that reflects my age. But have always loved Yes, Pink Floyd, Incredible String Band, Dylan, Cohen, Fairport Convention, early Queen, plus I always had a soft spot for a great female voice, Baez, Sandy Denny, and of course the best of my lifetime in my opinion, Hayley.
I don't tend to subdivide music by genre though, I suspect Hayley doesn't either. Either I like it or I don't, those are the only classifications I need.
Oh, and even most artists I like have sometimes done something I don't, perhaps the only exception to that is Hayley.
Martin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 21:50:48 GMT
Lots of great artists on that list. I listen to alot of classic rock too, just not as much as I used to. As far as classifying music in genres, I can get where you're coming from. Personally I like to generalize my musical interest into anything that I consider to be heavy and/or melodic. Basically music with emotion ya know. But for the purposes of this post I chose to use specific genres to more clearly differentiate from Hayley and her music - in other words I'm curious as to how many people out there have Hayley and Metallica on the same iPod lol
-Rory
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Post by martindn on Jan 7, 2013 23:25:02 GMT
I've had this argument with Nicola of the Classical Crossover UK website. I think what I'm trying to say, is that genres tend to make people exclude music. For instance, if I say I don't like jazz, I will not listen to anything classified as jazz, even though there might be some music there I would like, if only I got to hear it. Genres tend to limit ones musical horizons, and are best ignored in my opinion.
If you tell me you have heard this great artist, without saying what sort of music they make, I will listen to the artist on their merits, and not say "oh, she's an opera singer and I don't like opera, forget it". I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people dismiss Hayley like that, even though Hayley is not actually an opera singer and would be the first to agree that she isn't (OK, she might have had a small part in an opera when she was about eight years old).
For me, great music has a spiritual dimension, and you can find that in some examples from pretty much any genre. If it moves my soul, I like it. If it doesn't, I might still find something good in it, for example a wonderful virtuoso instrumental performance. You can also find nothing music (what my brother likes to call "elevator music") in pretty much any genre too.
Martin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 3:24:35 GMT
Oh definitely. I'm not even trying to argue for the use of genres, just explaining why I used it in this post. As you mentioned, most people do classify music in such a way, so it would be easier to find a response I'm looking for with this kind of post. Of course I would defend music in terms of different "styles," for example there are artists that I like equally as much as Hayley, but just because they're both amazing I wouldn't want to say they're the same style, just the same quality. I think if you determine what you like first without any categorization, you can then further specify the many corners of the spectrum of your overall taste. But hey no matter how you look at it, great music is still great music, let's leave it at that  -Rory |
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Post by Bamafan on Jan 8, 2013 4:09:33 GMT
I listen to just a lot of random stuff... Basically just anything that tickles my fancy. George Gershwin, Jamie Grace, TobyMac, Michael Bublé, Rosemary Cloony, The Puppini Sisters, Julie Andrews... Whatever. Oh! And Hayley, of course! :wink: -Taylor i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by Libby on Jan 9, 2013 8:05:14 GMT
When people ask me what kind of music I like, I find it difficult to answer. None of my favorite artists are in the exact same genre. I love music, but I am very picky when it comes to artists I like. There are only a handful of artists that have really stood out to me enough to buy their albums. After hearing extraordinary voices like Hayley's, it's hard for me to be very impressed with singers unless they do have an extra special voice, and there are very few who do. I can't really say that I'm a fan of CC music as a whole. I'm much more likely to appreciate it because of Hayley, though. However, because of Hayley's extraordinary voice, it's hard for me to like other female CC artists very much, because even if they sound really nice, they never impress me the way Hayley does, especially if they just sing songs that I've heard Hayley sing before, and obviously her versions of songs are my favorites (same thing is true with male artists vs. Josh Groban or Andrea Bocelli). However, if the singer is more original, like Mary-Jess Leaverland, then I will definitely give them a chance. Mary Jess does have a very beautiful voice, btw. Her interpretation of songs is actually what really makes her voice so special. She also writes some of her songs. I love Enya because of her beautiful voice, her ethereal music, and her unique talent. She composes nearly all her music herself, and she also does most of her own background vocals, which shows off the wide range she has. My other favorite artist is way different from the artists I've mentioned. Her name is Brandi Carlile, who actually grew up in a town close to me. She's difficult to categorize, too. She's described as being indie rock/folk. Some of her songs are folk/countryish (sort of), and some are more on the country/rock side. But most of her songs can only be described as really great music. She has a very unique voice, with a wide range, and outstanding emotional interpretation. She has a very raw quality to her singing. You'll be listening to her songs, and you'll think, hmm, this is a pretty good song. Then all of a sudden she'll belt it out from her gut, and then you're just blown away by her talent. I actually did a review on Amazon of her song, Again Today, and I titled it "Blown away by Brandi, Again Today", since that song is an example of what I just described. Her voice can be tender and beautiful, but also rough and edgy. There's really no voice like hers out there, that I've ever heard. There are comparisons to Bonnie Raitt (sp?), Patsy Cline, and singers like that. But some of the times when she sings her lower notes with her guitar, I think of Johnny Cash for some reason. All of her songs are original, nearly all co-written by her and her band members. Her most well-known song is called The Story, which is what really launched her career, although it was on her 2nd album. Here's the official music video, if you're interested: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8pQLtHTPaIAlso, her website: www.brandicarlile.com/Taylor, I like TobyMac, too! Actually, if I'm honest, I don't listen to his songs on a very regular basis, but I love going to his concerts. He puts on such a fun show! Also, I like hearing his songs on the radio. I don't own any of his CDs myself, but I have a few of his songs downloaded. |
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Post by martindn on Jan 9, 2013 21:14:51 GMT
Hi Libby,
Yes, I too find it hard to really like other singers after listening to Hayley. A lot od them sound out of tune for one thing, and I'm very intolerant of that these day's. That is probably down to Hayley's amazing sense of pitch.
Other female singers who have impressed me include Annelies, Siohan Owen, and Mary-Jess, although none of them blow me away the way that Hayley does.
But I try. I hope to get to a concert by Siobhan Owen this weekend near London (although there has been bad weather forecast which might make it tricky). Siobhan is of course from Australia, so there are not many chances to see her over here. Like Hayley she can hit high notes with purity and without screeching or warbling. Ans she plays the harp (and accordion)too, and specialises in Celtic folk songs. Although without the sort of backing Hayley gets, the concert will be in a church hall.
Looking forward to it.
Martin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 22:13:54 GMT
Just checked out the Brandi Carlile tune. Really dug it. She has so much soul in her voice. And what a range! The beginning of the song made me think she was a generally low voiced singer but when the heavy part kicked in and she went up high it just blew me away. Definitely have to check out more of her music
-Rory
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Post by martindn on Jan 9, 2013 23:30:40 GMT
Power, range and control. That is what it is about technically. Then comes interpretation. Hayley has always been spot on technically, and her interpretation has improved vastly over the years. I regard her as the best singer of my lifetime.
Rory, correct me if I am wrong, but I think that you are a fairly rare bird on these forums like me, in that your first experience of Hayley was a live performance. I was blown away within seconds of first hearing her voice back in 2004. I knew I had never heard anyone like her. She was 16 then. Nothing I've heard since has made me change my mind about her.
Martin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 3:26:24 GMT
Ah that must have been amazing, Martin. Depending on which thread you checked first, you may have already seen that I mentioned my first Hayley experience was actually from her cover of Itsumo Nando Demo, which I discovered by accident. If you checked this thread first I mentioned more about that in the "Personal Covers" thread. Seeing her live at Carnegie was fantastic though, she captured everything I loved about her recorded voice but paired with a sense of reality that came almost as a surprise.
-Rory
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 3:32:10 GMT
Also, getting back to my original post in this thread, here is a video of one of my favorite artists: Kiko Loureiro. He plays instrumental guitar tunes but with the structure of songs that would normally have vocals (ie verse, chorus, bridge, etc.). This is one of my favorites of his, in a recent live performance. www.youtube.com/embed/P1ldoNSuYqc-Rory |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 10, 2013 14:31:30 GMT
I listen to music from most genres, including Rock (I'd say I'm mainly a Rock/Metal fan, overall), Pop, Country, Jazz, Soul, Classical, Operetta (Though rarely if ever Opera), Classical Crossover (Obviously, else I'd not be here!  ), Folk... Pretty near everything except Rap. I find that as I get older, my musical taste broadens. There was a time I would not have said I liked several of those genres, but it only takes one artist in a genre I DO like to get me looking for others. I find genre to be useful for vague categorisation, but as a general rule the categories are so broad that two artists from the same genre do not necessarily sound remotely similar. Music tends to evolve as it is uniquely reinterpreted by each artist and each generation anew. So why don't I like Rap? Well, most of what attracts me to music is the ability of the singer. Rap is never sung, and thus I have no interest in it. I can appreciate many different types of voices, but only when they sing |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 17:32:16 GMT
I feel similarly about rap. What I love about music is emotion - and with no real music behind haphazardly shouted words I find it hard to feel anything listening to it. However, I can appreciate rap if there's decent music behind it; I'm actually a huge Rage Against the Machine fan (the furthest POSSIBLE thing from Hayley lol) because I feel the heavy blues/funk rock guitar actually brings out the power of the vocals, even if they aren't sang, and I can really dig them. Also Zach from RATM doesn't rap about stupid things like partying or sex, he has real anger behind what he's shouting, and his lyrics are quite poetic as well.
-Rory
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 10, 2013 18:00:56 GMT
Rory, I admire people who can Combat Rap. Making up the rhymes as they go requires real skill with words and a quick mind. The closest thing I actually listen to to Rap, though, is Aerosmith. Steven Tyler kinda 'sing-Raps', in a way, which I quite like. But what I love most with singers is the power/emotion/control axis. Anyone who has all three can REALLY get my attention, musically speaking. Hayley being the female pinnacle, as it were, she has my attention more than most! These days I listen to lots of solo singer/songwriters (Insofar as there are 'lots' ). I think part of the reason for that is they tend to sing their own songs with deeper understanding and thus convey a lot more feeling, because their songs are more personal to them. Mere technical perfection is for the birds! Someone who can hit the notes without feeling the song is simply of no interest to me |
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are Angra, Audioslave, Soundgarden, Richie Kotzen, Guthrie Govan, and Kiko Loureiro to name a few.
), Folk... Pretty near everything except Rap.