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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 18:07:11 GMT
Completely agree. I play guitar, and the same principles apply. I've seen players who can play ridiculous technical things, but with no emotion it's just noise. And being a singer-songwriter myself, the most important thing for me in a song is capturing the way I feel, and there are few better feelings than hearing a song come together that represents exactly what you're going through.
-Rory
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 10, 2013 18:27:23 GMT
Rory, Yes. I think that degree of personal investment always pays off for the artist. The audience will feel the depth of connection and love the song more - or at least most seem to  It feels like you are sharing an experience with the artist rather than just listening to a song. I love that |
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Post by martindn on Jan 10, 2013 18:59:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 3:24:22 GMT
 omg that might be the most outrageous Hayley vid I've ever seen. I never imagined her doing something like that - don't think I could be much more surprised if she started rapping herself! But on a more serious note, it's cool that Hayley was able to expose herself to fans of completely different music -Rory |
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Post by Libby on Jan 11, 2013 5:50:15 GMT
Just checked out the Brandi Carlile tune. Really dug it. She has so much soul in her voice. And what a range! The beginning of the song made me think she was a generally low voiced singer but when the heavy part kicked in and she went up high it just blew me away. Definitely have to check out more of her music -Rory Yes, definitely do! I enjoy every song on all the CDs that I have by her. Of course, some I like more than others, but none are skippers. There's something special in every song that she puts out. You can hear more songs on her website, and also on youtube. I can't post most of the songs here though, because of copyright. The contrast between some of her songs is pretty amazing. Beautiful music and singing in the song Just Kids, and then a more hard core, rock/country edge in the song Raise Hell. Upon hearing one, you'd be a bit surprised to hear the other one right after. |
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Post by chungchunglee on Jan 11, 2013 19:15:14 GMT
I've had this argument with Nicola of the Classical Crossover UK website. I think what I'm trying to say, is that genres tend to make people exclude music. For instance, if I say I don't like jazz, I will not listen to anything classified as jazz, even though there might be some music there I would like, if only I got to hear it. Genres tend to limit ones musical horizons, and are best ignored in my opinion. If you tell me you have heard this great artist, without saying what sort of music they make, I will listen to the artist on their merits, and not say "oh, she's an opera singer and I don't like opera, forget it". I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people dismiss Hayley like that, even though Hayley is not actually an opera singer and would be the first to agree that she isn't (OK, she might have had a small part in an opera when she was about eight years old). For me, great music has a spiritual dimension, and you can find that in some examples from pretty much any genre. If it moves my soul, I like it. If it doesn't, I might still find something good in it, for example a wonderful virtuoso instrumental performance. You can also find nothing music (what my brother likes to call "elevator music") in pretty much any genre too. Martin D Hello ! Mr. Martin D. .......... & Hi ! Guys !  Wowwww ...........  I was a bit shocked , to be very honest , when I first read your reply. I just can't believe that AT PRESENT , :-[AT PRESENT  , some ppl still "Label" Hayley as an "Opera" singer . I mean , HOW COME ? & , I just feel that "Damn ! That Label & the Stigma that this Label caused still seem to stick around" ............  Unfortunately , from my own P.O.V. , what I have witnessed is that , our Dear Hayley has , over the years , suffered from a sort of "Negative Labelling Effect" because of THIS , rather than being able to "Benefit from Positive Discrimination" caused by her affiliation with the "Classical Crossover" genre.  People seemed to , & still seem to , "Stamp the Operatic Soprano Seal" onto her forehead and they decide to look at "Her" from this type of "Distorted Perspective" . As a fan of the Kiwi Nightingale , I have witnessed that first hand the kind of rejection or ........... even "repulsion" from some general music lovers . "Oh ! She is kind of Classical ......... Blah Blah Blahhhhh .........." and then immediately they put her albums down and just left it there in the Music Store . I know that the MOST gracious fans of Hayley would all keep their mouths shut and just "Let Her Artistry (and her Works) speak for Itself" . I myself said NOTHING . But what I REALLY want to point out , is that , over the years , HOW MANY ppl have , basically because of THIS , turned their back away from her and looked the other way , and HOW MANY potential fans she has lost ............  I know that life is full of disappointments , and sometimes "IT" does give us a hard blow & make us feel how grudgingly UNFAIR it can be. AND , Ummmm ........... as for "Artists in the Other Genres" , I have to say that I really enjoy Celine Dion , Mariah Carey , the late Whitney Houston and the Icelandic Diva Bjork . & I also enjoy the Light Jazz Vocalist Laura Fygi (sp ?). Regards Chungie |
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Post by tireman on Jan 12, 2013 3:58:00 GMT
I feel similarly about rap. What I love about music is emotion - and with no real music behind haphazardly shouted words I find it hard to feel anything listening to it. However, I can appreciate rap if there's decent music behind it; I'm actually a huge Rage Against the Machine fan (the furthest POSSIBLE thing from Hayley lol) because I feel the heavy blues/funk rock guitar actually brings out the power of the vocals, even if they aren't sang, and I can really dig them. Also Zach from RATM doesn't rap about stupid things like partying or sex, he has real anger behind what he's shouting, and his lyrics are quite poetic as well. -Rory I'd rather be poked in the eye with a sharp stick then listen to rap. But I have no problems with those who do. That's why they make different color cars. Larry |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 5:03:23 GMT
I feel the same about most rap - RATM is a rare exception for me. But the fact that Hayley can reach out to people of many differing tastes is yet another testament to how amazing she is! -Rory |
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Post by martindn on Jan 12, 2013 20:51:28 GMT
It is that voice Rory. You really can't argue with that. Whatever she does, her voice comes through, and so does her lovely personality. Not forgetting her deep spirituality. On several occasions she has made me love songs I used to hate. That is a measure of what she can do.
Martin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 21:28:07 GMT
It is that voice Rory. You really can't argue with that. Whatever she does, her voice comes through, and so does her lovely personality. Not forgetting her deep spirituality. On several occasions she has made me love songs I used to hate. That is a measure of what she can do. Martin D It's true. Her voice is so soft and clear, with a breath of bliss in every word. But honestly she doesn't even have to open her mouth, she's just so gorgeous altogether... but then she starts singing and you're hooked |
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Post by martindn on Jan 12, 2013 21:37:02 GMT
well, Rory, I don't mention her physical beauty for a reason. There are many beautiful women in this world. Hayley is not unique on that score. But her voice, that is unique. And the person that she is, that is unique too. So her physical beauty is just another factor that adds to the effect she has on her audience.
But you are right. On that night I first saw her, I though she was a lovely looking girl, but perhaps a bit too skinny. But it wasn't until she opened her mouth and started to sing that I was hooked. In a very few seconds.
Martin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 21:44:43 GMT
I had a similar experience although in reverse. I first heard Hayley having no idea what she looked like, but I was fascinated by her unique voice. Of course, since then I have seen many images of her, and personally I find her looks stunning. Her voice was enough to get me hooked on her music, but her beauty just completes the concoction for me. Just my own personal taste I guess, but no matter how you look at it, it's almost impossible to spot a flaw in that girl
-Rory
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 12, 2013 22:27:56 GMT
To me, Hayley is a pretty girl made beautiful by that incredible voice. I always think that anyone whose talent we humans greatly admire becomes more attractive to us because of that. It's certainly that way with me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 23:03:24 GMT
To me, Hayley is a pretty girl made beautiful by that incredible voice. I always think that anyone whose talent we humans greatly admire becomes more attractive to us because of that. It's certainly that way with me. Definitely. Granted I've always found Hayley to be gorgeous, but since I heard her voice before I saw her face I can't say what I would've thought of her looks without knowing of her talent -Rory |
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Post by susieverity on Jan 27, 2013 18:47:10 GMT
Hi Everyone,
When I first heard Hayley I didn't know what Classical Crossover was I heard her on Classic FM and thought she must be classical, but her voice was so beautiful that It dosen't matter to me what the type of music is called. As I now know more about CC as a genre I sometimes seek out new artists that are similar to Hayley such as Camilla Kerslake, Mary-Jess, Sara Kempe and it is definately Hayley's influence that makes me like such artists.
However I also listen to loads of other stuff thats not classical at all, I mostly like female artists such as Carrie Underwood, Beyonce, Adele, Lady Gaga, Christina Aguilera, Ella Fitzgerald (my mum is a big fan of hers). I am a big fan of folk/country type music so I like Lisa Hannigan, Damien Rice, The Civil Wars, Birdy, Dixie Chicks. I was hoping Hayley would do some folk type music for her next album as I think her voice would be great for this kind of music.
Susie
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It feels like you are sharing an experience with the artist rather than just listening to a song. I love that 
omg that might be the most outrageous Hayley vid I've ever seen. I never imagined her doing something like that - don't think I could be much more surprised if she started rapping herself! But on a more serious note, it's cool that Hayley was able to expose herself to fans of completely different music
I was a bit shocked , to be very honest , when I first read your reply. 
, some ppl still "Label" Hayley as an "Opera" singer . I mean , HOW COME ? 
