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Post by martindn on Sept 20, 2015 17:56:56 GMT
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Post by Libby on Sept 20, 2015 22:01:20 GMT
Can't help myself; more tweets about Hayley vs. Paloma:
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Post by Libby on Sept 24, 2015 4:36:10 GMT
Today's tweets: Ladysmith Black Mambazo collaborated with Josh Groban on 2 songs on his 3rd album, Awake (very good songs, by the way).
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Post by Richard on Sept 24, 2015 8:08:02 GMT
For comparison purposes only: Rugby World Cup 2011 opening titles with Hayley: Rugby World Cup 2015 opening titles with Paloma Faith: No contest! Richard
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Post by Ross on Sept 24, 2015 9:24:10 GMT
Definitely no contest. They should have got Laura Wright to sing it. She would have done a better job of it.
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Post by Jeff on Sept 24, 2015 10:18:42 GMT
After 55 seconds Paloma Faith actually sounds like she is about to be sick. That makes two of us. It's really painful listening.
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Post by martindn on Sept 24, 2015 10:26:41 GMT
Agreed. Laura is no Hayley, but at least she can sing in tune. I'm sure she wouldn't make me cringe the way Paloma does. This version is so bad it is a national embarrassment. Probably takes after her dad (or is it granddad) Adam. He couldn't sing either. Martin D
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Post by cloudbusting.heights on Sept 24, 2015 12:16:12 GMT
Agreed. Laura is no Hayley, but at least she can sing in tune. I'm sure she wouldn't make me cringe the way Paloma does. This version is so bad it is a national embarrassment. Probably takes after her dad (or is it granddad) Adam. He couldn't sing either. Martin D Martin, Paloma can sing. This song is simply not for her nor is it her style of singing. Just because a singer sounds awful singing one song doesn't mean they can't sing.
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Post by martindn on Sept 24, 2015 12:58:52 GMT
Martin, Paloma can sing. This song is simply not for her nor is it her style of singing. Just because a singer sounds awful singing one song doesn't mean they can't sing. In that case it would be better if she didn't bring her reputation as a singer into disrepute by trying to sing an unsuitable song. She should have turned it down. Sign of a singer whose ego is bigger than her talent if you ask me (there are lots of them about). But then I haven't heard her sing anything else, so I have to defer to your greater knowledge of her. Martin D
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Post by cloudbusting.heights on Sept 24, 2015 13:34:10 GMT
Martin, Paloma can sing. This song is simply not for her nor is it her style of singing. Just because a singer sounds awful singing one song doesn't mean they can't sing. In that case it would be better if she didn't bring her reputation as a singer into disrepute by trying to sing an unsuitable song. She should have turned it down. Sign of a singer whose ego is bigger than her talent if you ask me (there are lots of them about). But then I haven't heard her sing anything else, so I have to defer to your greater knowledge of her. Martin D She's a relatively shy person; and by the way, this year she won the Brit Award for British Female Solo Artist. Here's one of her songs from her first (and best, IMO) album:
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Post by Martin on Sept 24, 2015 16:47:13 GMT
Agreed. Laura is no Hayley, but at least she can sing in tune. I'm sure she wouldn't make me cringe the way Paloma does. This version is so bad it is a national embarrassment. Probably takes after her dad (or is it granddad) Adam. He couldn't sing either. Martin D Martin, Hayley and Laura are now entirely different singers. Laura is now a very competent mezzo soprano and Hayley's voice would not be suited to much of Laura's repertoire. Hayley on the contrary sings in a lower register than she did as a teenager and therefore chooses songs that suits this situation, mostly to great effect. One could therefore argue that Hayley is no Laura! Martin
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Post by cloudbusting.heights on Sept 24, 2015 19:06:54 GMT
Is the Italian version posted anywhere? (Preferably free, I don't have the money to buy fun things in college).
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Post by martindn on Sept 24, 2015 20:55:17 GMT
She's a relatively shy person; and by the way, this year she won the Brit Award for British Female Solo Artist. Here's one of her songs from her first (and best, IMO) album: Yes, that's a lot better. She is clearly a jazz influenced singer in the Amy Winehouse mould. She is out of tune in that song too, but in jazz it doesn't matter in the same way. Martin D
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Post by martindn on Sept 24, 2015 20:59:41 GMT
Martin, Hayley and Laura are now entirely different singers. Laura is now a very competent mezzo soprano and Hayley's voice would not be suited to much of Laura's repertoire. Hayley on the contrary sings in a lower register than she did as a teenager and therefore chooses songs that suits this situation, mostly to great effect. One could therefore argue that Hayley is no Laura! Martin Yes, indeed, I like both singers, and have heard them both live of course. Perhaps what I meant to say was that I prefer Hayley's version of "The World in Union" to Laura's. But Laura does a competent job on it, unlike Paloma. Another new recording of "The World in Union" is by Rhydian, although I haven't heard it. Martin D
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Post by Libby on Sept 25, 2015 6:29:41 GMT
Good singer or not, this fiasco is probably going to give her the unfortunate reputation of being the "worst WiU singer ever". I just now listened to it, to see what the fuss is all about. The beginning actually didn't seem that bad to me, though certainly not wonderful; however, it gradually goes downhill from there, till at the end I hear the "nails on a chalkboard" sound others described. In her defense, though she can carry a tune. She sang it that way on purpose. It was obviously meant to sound that way (by her or the producers, who knows?), but yes, the tune was definitely tampered with in a less than pleasant way. Overall, I would just call her rendition annoying. After all the comments, I was expecting a lot worse, though this certainly left MUCH to be desired. I listened to her other song that you posted, Paige, and there you definitely hear her talent, and now, I'm sure I've heard her voice somewhere before, or one similar. Actually, it reminded me a tiny, tiny bit of Adele's. The low tone and that catch in her voice at certain points. Now that I think of it, I wonder how Adele would have sounded, if it would have sounded much better. Just a thought. Paige is right, that type of song does not suit that type of voice. That is a unique but good voice to have, but unfortunately it is only suited to certain styles. Jazz, soul, R & B, etc. So, yes, she has a good voice, but that voice is limited. Hayley's voice has its limits as well, but possibly not as many. She always sounds pleasant, at least. Though this is unfortunate for Paloma, it's been giving Hayley more attention than she would have otherwise. If a better singer had been chosen, people would have been less likely to be listening to Hayley's or anyone else's version of the song. People seem to be seeking out Hayley's version as a balm to soothe their ears. LOL This may not be as much attention as she got in 2011, but I'd say it's doing her a fair amount of good. Now, if an album would be announced soon, with this event still fresh in people's minds, this just might give her an extra boost. Martin, I'm glad Hayley is no Laura Wright, then she wouldn't be half as interesting. I once considered buying one of her albums. I thought her songs sounded pleasant and lovely, but I was trying out Mary-Jess' songs at the same time. I decided Mary-Jess was the one I wanted to hear more of at the time, and I haven't looked back at Laura's music ever since. Nothing new or exciting there. Her Lavender's Blue is rather dull even compared with Lilly James' version in Cinderella, and I only know of her as an actress. All this reminds me of the time Christina Aguilera sang the Star-spangled banner, and she way over-sang that, and a lot of people complained. If I'm not mistaken, I think she also may have messed up the lyrics, but I could be remembering someone else. But anyway, not long after, Josh Groban sang it at some other event, and everyone raved about how he sang it just as it should be. He and Christina both have big voices, but Josh doesn't use the vocal gymnastics that Christina tends to do. Here are more tweets:
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