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Post by stevemacdonald on Nov 19, 2010 17:22:03 GMT
The one thing that might work against Hayley winning the gig is her obvious beauty. The future Princess Kate is attractive indeed and they'll no doubt go out of their way to glamourise her beyond belief for the nuptials. However, Hayley is undeniably easy on the eyes and could possibly upstage the bride in terms of sheer natural pulchritude. While this may seem silly, it's no laughing matter to the powers that be who want to ensure that the next Royal Princess has no peers. A safer choice would be Faryl or Susan.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 19, 2010 17:36:12 GMT
On the bright side, though, Steve, it would also put Katherine Jenkins right out of the running! If 'more beautiful than the bride' is a no-go, they may well ban her from the country for the duration! Kate will have one huge advantage over any other woman at the wedding, though, and that's that she's marrying a prince and becoming a princess. The glamour of that will blind most observers from noticing that while she is rather pretty, in actual fact she'd be unlikely to be winning any beauty competitions. I'd bet that's not the way the press will put it, though...
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Post by mihizawi on Nov 19, 2010 18:23:44 GMT
I am not saying Katherine Jenkins is ugly... But, honestly, I find Hayley so much more beautiful... Only my opinion, trying to be objective... And Faryl has grown up quite a beauty too.
Michal
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Post by Libby on Nov 19, 2010 19:57:55 GMT
Elliot, I certainly hope you're right about all this. If the Queen is the head of the country, then isn't that all the more reason to believe Hayley might be chosen? It's obvious to me that the Queen likes her. I seem to remember a concert report in which Hayley was quoted as saying something like, "The Queen and I are like this", and crossing her fingers together. All the more reason for her to be chosen. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif Of course I know she was kidding, but really, I think the Queen does appreciate her. Steve, how would Faryl be a better choice as far as not upstaging the bride? Of course, you may prefer Hayley's beauty, but Faryl is certainly not ugly. Neither are Camilla Kerslake or Katherine Jenkins, for that matter. They've all performed for military/remembrance events, haven't they? And Susan Boyle isn't ugly just because she's older. But somehow I don't see her doing it. Oh, and Faryl is brunette; so is Kate! Do you think they want someone with similar hair color? As for the guy from Blake, you don't think the establishment would allow a friend of the couple to sing if they really wanted him to?
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Post by Libby on Nov 19, 2010 20:12:53 GMT
On a slightly off-topic note: speaking of Blake, I never knew until just yesterday that Humphrey Berney, the guy who sang with Hayley in Le Note del Silenzio on Treasure, is a member of Blake! Maybe Blake could sing, and then Hayley and Humphrey could perform that duet!
Or if Hayley sings solo, as we'd prefer, she wouldn't necessarly have to sing something from her albums. She could sing something that the Royal family or the establishment requests, couldn't she?
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 19, 2010 21:53:08 GMT
Michal, To each their own, I guess Hayley is more charming, IMO, but purely in terms of looks Katherine Jenkins is very hard to beat. Faryl is still too young for me to have an opinion on as she is now, but by the time she hits 21 I'd be very surprised if she was not an extremely beautiful and elegant young lady. *** Libby, I hope I'm right, too. Hayley would finally get the kind of attention her voice should demand, and at least part of the wedding would then be worth watching, from my rather cynical perspective! Not that I don't wish William & Kate every happiness, but it's just another wedding, to me. As for the songs, I imagine it'll be mainly hymns & prayers, but what I'm really, really hoping for is Jerusalem or Land Of Hope & Glory - probably two of (If not THE) greatest patriotic songs ever written about Britain/England. I think Jonathan Ansell has a pretty clear run at the male vocalist spot. He does the same round of establishment stuff that Hayley does and is obviously well regarded. That and I'd have trouble naming another really top class British or Commonwealth male vocalist... Unless they get all three of them (Which they might), I can see good cases for Hayley, Faryl & Katherine. If I were totally determined to ensure no breath of possible scandal over-shadows the big day, though, I'd likely strike Katherine from the list (Former druggy) and might consider Faryl too young. She'd be 17-ish by the time of the wedding, sure, but they might want someone more fully grown. If I were in charge, I'd get Hayley & Faryl both, but unfortunately I doubt my understanding of the establishment mentality is good enough to truly predict them, beyond 'find us living saints'. *** I've been trying to imagine the establishment weighing up whether or not to get Hayley to sing for the big day. The conversation, I would imagine, would go something like this: Elder Statesman #1: So... huh-hmmm. This, errm, Australian? Is she? Elder Statesman #2: *Consults paper* New Zealander, I believe. Elder Statesman #1: Hayley... Good name, good name... Westenra? Hmmm... No relation to that, er, vampire girl? Wouldn't want that sort of thing, would we? Elder Statesman #3: I, er, believe that was a work of fiction, Sir. Elder Statesman #!: Really? Good God! The things they think of! Harumph! So. What's bad about this Hayley Westenra, then? **Silence"" Elder Statesman #!: Well? There must be something? **Silence** Elder Statesman #4 (After long pause): I, er, understand she likes Marmite...
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Post by stevemacdonald on Nov 19, 2010 23:35:35 GMT
.... Faryl is certainly not ugly. Neither are Camilla Kerslake or Katherine Jenkins, for that matter. Camilla Kerslake wouldn't work out because they already have a Camilla. Katherine Jenkins is also no-go because they already have a Catherine (Kate). I'd say it's down to Faryl and Hayley. Prince Wiliam served in Africa for awhile so he might look favourably on Hayley's Unicef work there. Faryl is the classical crossover mezzo the world's been waiting for, so she might inspire everyone as well.
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Post by spiderman on Nov 19, 2010 23:40:10 GMT
Michal, The conversation, I would imagine, would go something like this: Elder Statesman #1: So... huh-hmmm. This, errm, Australian? Is she? Elder Statesman #2: *Consults paper* New Zealander, I believe. Elder Statesman #1: Hayley... Good name, good name... Westenra? Hmmm... No relation to that, er, vampire girl? Wouldn't want that sort of thing, would we? Elder Statesman #3: I, er, believe that was a work of fiction, Sir. Elder Statesman #!: Really? Good God! The things they think of! Harumph! So. What's bad about this Hayley Westenra, then? **Silence"" Elder Statesman #!: Well? There must be something? **Silence** Elder Statesman #4 (After long pause): I, er, understand she likes Marmite... elliot thats one of the most inspired peices of comedy ive read in ages. thanks, it made me smile.. to continue a bt ESO1: marmite? ES04: some sort of yeast extract, like beer except cold; and, well, theres a connection between her and british airways, sir,... [sorry, im out of thoughts for a bit]
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Post by grant on Nov 19, 2010 23:42:47 GMT
Elliot To each their own, I guess Hayley is more charming, IMO, but purely in terms of looks Katherine Jenkins is very hard to beat. I have to disagree with you here. Having seen Katherine Jenkins at very close quarters, her excessive make up made it very difficult to see the woman beneath. You could never say that about Hayley even when she is 'heavily' made up which is infrequent and then always tasteful. Best wishes Grant
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Post by martindn on Nov 20, 2010 0:53:11 GMT
I agree Grant. I remember seeing Katherine in the early days before she was well known, on stage with Hayley. Hayley was only 16 at the time and Katherine wore slacks and a tee shirt, and looked rather dumpy and ordinary. We have both seen Hayley without makeup, and know that her beauty is real, and is much more than skin deep. Katherine's seems much more manufactured.
As for the male singer, I would think Aled Jones would be in with a shout. Especially with William's Welsh connections. Aled and Hayley singing "All I ask of You"? If it happens, you saw it here first!
Martin D
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 20, 2010 5:56:39 GMT
Spiderman, Thanks *** Grant, Never having seen either Katherine or Hayley up close, I cannot comment on that *** Martin, Good point on Aled! I tend to forget him as he's less active in Britain these days, but yeah, he really is rather brilliant. *** Also, to clarify my position on Hayley/Faryl/Katherine, I don't think Katherine is in the running for her voice, but rather for her popularity in Britain. I am not seriously suggesting she is in any way good enough to match Faryl as a vocalist, never mind Hayley! Of course, Hayley's far greater popularity across the Commonwealth as a whole should definitely count in Hayley's favour...
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Post by Richard on Nov 20, 2010 17:45:48 GMT
Grant, Never having seen either Katherine or Hayley up close, I cannot comment on that Hello Elliot! I've met both of them, and I agree with Grant. Richard
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Post by Libby on Nov 20, 2010 20:40:31 GMT
I tend to agree with Elliot that Faryl is a little young. I hadn't thought of that about Camilla. For some reason I though her name was Camille, but I never keep track of stuff like that, so what do I know? :rollin Even so, that would be too close.
As for Hayley and Katherine's makeup, Hayley has been seen with lots of makeup, too. That one photo of her in that gold dress.. wow, that was a lot of makeup. Especially the shot they used in her book. Too much bright lipstick and eyeshadow. Going through some of the photos of Hayley, if you weren't familiar with Hayley, you probably wouldn't even know it was the same person. However, I noticed last year she started lightening up on the makeup a little.
Hayley may be more attractive, but she won't be the one in the wedding dress, so I don't think her beauty should be too much of a distraction from Kate. Piles of white lace should do the trick! :wink:
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 21, 2010 14:28:05 GMT
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Post by stevemacdonald on Nov 21, 2010 18:13:24 GMT
It enhances Hayley's chances several-fold. Clearly, William doesn't want a stuffy, old-school wedding with all the regal pomp and pageantry fit for a future king. Instead, he and Kate seem to prefer a more exciting experience shaped by their own modern interests. This could mean we won't see traditional opera divas performing solemn hymns; rather, vibrant young singers with fresh energy and similar outlooks. Wills like Africa a lot. So does Hayley. Kate is fashionable. So is Hayley. Both are world travelers with eclectic taste. Ditto Ms Westenra. The match in spirits is very obvious, and that is what this couple are loudly asking for. It so happens Hayley is an excellent choice from all angles, and that will be unmistakable to the planners who must appease both the Queen and her grandson. Indeed, Hayley's involvement might be the one thing that brilliantly unifies the two camps!
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