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Post by gillette on Jun 29, 2011 16:56:38 GMT
Hi -
Any particular reason why HWI is not listed amongst the external links shown at the bottom of the page on Hayley's Wikipedia page?
Bob S
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Post by Simba on Jun 29, 2011 17:22:35 GMT
You can add it though...anyone can edit the wiki page XD
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Post by Martin on Jun 29, 2011 19:03:38 GMT
Hi - Any particular reason why HWI is not listed amongst the external links shown at the bottom of the page on Hayley's Wikipedia page? Bob S Hi Bob Wikipedia's policy rules state that links to "fan sites" are not permitted. The HWI management team has recently considered adding a link but in the circumstances we thought otherwise. I know there are some celebrity wikipdeia entries which have not followed these rules but in my opinion it is a contentious point since links to official sites are allowed. Best wishes Martin |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jun 29, 2011 19:45:32 GMT
Hi Bob Wikipedia's policy rules state that links to "fan sites" are not permitted. The HWI management team has recently considered adding a link but in the circumstances we thought otherwise. I know there are some celebrity wikipdeia entries which have not followed these rules but in my opinion it is a contentious point since links to official sites are allowed. Best wishes Martin One workaround would be to create a Wiki page exclusively about HWI. In many ways HWI stands on its own apart from Hayley and deserves its special place in cultural history. There are countless associations and societies represented in Wikipaedia that are uncoupled from their source of inspiration, so why not HWI? |
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Post by gillette on Jun 29, 2011 19:45:58 GMT
Hi Martin -
Thanks for the explanation. Not seeing HWI there just struck me as being a bit odd, since HWI appears to be just about the best source of all HW information.
Bob S
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2011 20:49:15 GMT
Hi Bob Wikipedia's policy rules state that links to "fan sites" are not permitted. The HWI management team has recently considered adding a link but in the circumstances we thought otherwise. I know there are some celebrity wikipdeia entries which have not followed these rules but in my opinion it is a contentious point since links to official sites are allowed. Best wishes Martin One workaround would be to create a Wiki page exclusively about HWI. In many ways HWI stands on its own apart from Hayley and deserves its special place in cultural history. There are countless associations and societies represented in Wikipaedia that are uncoupled from their source of inspiration, so why not HWI? Hi Steve, That's an interesting idea that we hadn't considered, thanks! We'll have a think about it.  Thanks for your interest in this, Bob.  I know anyone can edit most Wiki pages, but I was wondering, do we have any regular Wikipedia contributors among our ranks? Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Libby on Jun 29, 2011 21:12:06 GMT
I'm not a regular contributor, but I have contributed to Hayley's page, as well as others that relate to her (i.e., songs that she has covered, like May it Be, etc.). However, Hayley's biggest fan from China (who goes by various usernames) has done a lot more than me. He even made the Paradiso page! |
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Post by martindn on Jun 29, 2011 22:11:56 GMT
Yes, he even tried to talk me through doing some chanes once. But I wasn't very successful at it!
Martin D
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Post by Simba on Jun 30, 2011 14:01:01 GMT
Okay, www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WY8-UUVoQ0&feature=fvwrel that video has her performing "Dulaman" (not the one with celtic woman), at 3:28 secs I think, can somebody give me the details of that, which concert and such? and maybe a link to the topic and a video XD, oh and also if anyone has a video of Hayley's Dulaman performance with Celtic woman (not the few second poor quality one on Utube)...please link that to me as well.... (lol Im just trying to catch up with everything I missed XD) |
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Post by Libby on Jun 30, 2011 23:20:03 GMT
It's from the Ulysses concert in New York (I think), while she was there touring with Celtic Woman. Unfortunately, I've never seen any of those performances on Youtube. There is one of Mummer's Dance in the HWI archives... I think. That's where I saw the setlist that said she sang Dark Waltz. But I agree, I would love to hear the entire performance of Dulaman there, because it sounded so much better than that youtube video you're referring to. I spotted Tim J in that video, though.  |
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Post by Simba on Jul 1, 2011 10:26:09 GMT
Lol yeah, Hayley sings it so beautifully XD
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Post by tireman on Jul 2, 2011 0:24:32 GMT
It's from the Ulysses concert in New York (I think), while she was there touring with Celtic Woman. Unfortunately, I've never seen any of those performances on Youtube. There is one of Mummer's Dance in the HWI archives... I think. That's where I saw the setlist that said she sang Dark Waltz. But I agree, I would love to hear the entire performance of Dulaman there, because it sounded so much better than that youtube video you're referring to. I spotted Tim J in that video, though. Hi Libby I saw that video and unfortunately it did nothing for Hayley's career. Perhaps she would just be better off just pursuing the markets where her talent is appreciated. I gave up hope long ago of her ever being accepted in the U S market. How sad. Tireman |
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Post by Joe on Jul 2, 2011 3:31:35 GMT
It's from the Ulysses concert in New York (I think), while she was there touring with Celtic Woman. Unfortunately, I've never seen any of those performances on Youtube. There is one of Mummer's Dance in the HWI archives... I think. That's where I saw the setlist that said she sang Dark Waltz. But I agree, I would love to hear the entire performance of Dulaman there, because it sounded so much better than that youtube video you're referring to. I spotted Tim J in that video, though. Hi Libby I saw that video and unfortunately it did nothing for Hayley's career. Perhaps she would just be better off just pursuing the markets where her talent is appreciated. I gave up hope long ago of her ever being accepted in the U S market. How sad. Tireman  Thanks for your opinion. |
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Post by Libby on Jul 2, 2011 3:32:54 GMT
Yeah, it is pretty sad that you gave up. Of course she will never be "accepted" if we all give up like that. I certainly wouldn't expect one little interview or small pub-type concert to make her very well-known. Her time with Celtic Woman, on the other hand, did help quite a bit with America's awareness of her. Lots of US fans that I've encountered on the web discovered Hayley from CW. Not all, but lots. Every little thing helps, you know. One little interview on a TV show can do more than you think. The other moderator on the official forum, Bob C, discovered Hayley when she was on Good Morning America back in 2004, and he's been a fan ever since! These small things may only gain a few fans at a time, but they all add up. Her most recent appearance only gained her a few fans, but the few she did gain she touched quite deeply, and I'm sure that means far more to Hayley than hundreds of new fans. But she definitely could use some bigger things to help her out more. Which is why I try to come up with big things for her to do, and act upon them. Which, by the way, haven't been entirely unsuccessful.  I consider her time with CW to be one of those big things, too. And just so we're clear, this is completely on topic, because I am an American Hayley expert. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by Libby on Jul 12, 2011 23:02:37 GMT
How many times has Hayley performed All I Ask of You? When I was watching the video of Hayley & Joseph Calleja singing All I Ask of You, I started thinking that this must be the song she's duetted the most times, out of any other song she's ever duetted! She's done Time to Say Goodbye and The Prayer several times now, but has she performed either of those with all of these singers? Aled Jones Jonathan Ansell Lee Mead Rhydian Roberts Joseph Calleja Did she ever sing it with Russell Watson? ...and what's that guy's name, the first AIAOY video I ever saw, James somebody-or-other. Dowling? Darling? Oh, I can't remember! That video is no longer available. My link says it was in Wisconsin in 2004, if that helps. And she sang the song numerous times with Jonathan Ansell during their tour together, so that's a lot of times! So, I guess the answer to my 2nd question is, No. |
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