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Post by nicola on Nov 15, 2009 22:38:19 GMT
Hey guys, The set time for the chart to update is now on Sundays. There has been an update, but Hayley is now in fourth place. Chart |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 16, 2009 14:41:35 GMT
Can't have that! Must... vote... Hayley!
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Post by martindn on Nov 16, 2009 21:26:25 GMT
Yes, I agree. Shall we go looking for unsecured wireless networks..... Hayley is the best, perhaps the best there has aver been. How can we not do everything we can.
Martin
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Post by amptique on Nov 16, 2009 21:41:01 GMT
Hi Martin, Yes, I agree. Shall we go looking for unsecured wireless networks..... Hayley is the best, perhaps the best there has aver been. How can we not do everything we can. Martin I still have my list of open networks.  Bill |
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Post by nicola on Nov 16, 2009 22:04:13 GMT
I don't understand how the voting works to be honest. Sometimes it will let you vote several times a day, sometimes it doesn't let you vote for three days. Ultimately it's supposed to be one vote, per artist, per person, per day. I assume it has something to do with cookies/cache. I think it's easy to manipulate for those that know, and since Rhydian's fans have arguably taken advantage of this, I'm not particularly fussed how the votes come in. I can't do anything about it, and I am not techie enough to know.
Jim - I did get your message by the way. Thanks for letting me know. I was only curious - not much I can do!
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Post by martindn on Nov 16, 2009 22:12:56 GMT
Well, if it is cumulative points, even giving an artist a single star will improve their position. If not, you could vote tactically by giving the top artist lots of one point votes. Is that what Hayley's rivals did to her?
I think this is becoming more a case of who has best sussed out how the voting system works than anything to do with the artists'merit. Are you sure that is what you indended Nicola?
I think the only way to level the playing field is to publish the algorithm.
Martin
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Post by nicola on Nov 16, 2009 22:32:37 GMT
To be fair Martin, no polls are about artists' merit, they are how dedicated the fans are. It's not supposed to be scientifically accurate, as no online poll can be. Just a bit of fun. It's a shame there's a way round it, and some people ruin it for everyone else, but at the end of the day, it's not that important. I wanted to include the charts merely so fans could promote their artist further. i.e. fans of Grace Bawden, for example, vote for a lot, because they would like to put her face on the top ten, so people are more likely to check her out. That's the main reason I did this. If Rhydian's fans are bent on sending out the Rhydian message on an international site, well, that's the point of it anyway.
Again, shame about the cheating. But it's not exactly important.
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Post by martindn on Nov 16, 2009 23:48:23 GMT
Hi Nicola,
Yes, you are right of course. And I think that doing this will attract a ot of people to your site, will get it noticed, make it more authoritative. I can't knock it, since I like what you are doing. It is after all, promoting music that I love, and artists that I respect.
The result is that more people will listen to a wider range of artists that you feature. That can only be a good thing.
The cheating as you say, is regrettable.
However, I always feel that Hayley does not get a fair crack of the whip in the media. Katherine, even Faryl, seem to be promoted above Hayley. Camilla will be too. There was even an idea that Faryl, not Hayley, was the star (if there can be a star of such a thing, apart from those who are being remembered) of the festival of Remembrance. I don't think that would have happened if Katherine had been there she would have been the star.
Those of us who regard Hayley, as I do, as the finest female vocalist on the planet, perhaps even of all time, want to see her properly recognised. And since the mainstream media refuse to do it, perhaps because the right palms are not greased, and Simon Cowell and big business won't make any money, I look to sites like yours to redress the balance. But the fear is that once again, given the chance, the big money guys will overwelm your efforts too. The better you do, and the more influential you become, the more of a target for such things you will become. You need to be aware of this, and I would hope you would resist it, and always try your best to be honest. So far you have been in my opinion, but you might find that various forms of pressure will be applied as you become more influential. Good luck.
Marrtin
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 17, 2009 2:24:07 GMT
The cheating is actually good, in a way. The more people check the site out, the more likely they are to check out 'the competition' for their favourite singers...  |
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Post by nicola on Nov 22, 2009 13:04:03 GMT
The chart has been updated again. She is going a lot better this week, but still not number one. Rhydian's pad have stickied the chart on their website, so he will always be getting a steady stream of votes. :/ Classical Crossover Chart |
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Post by Richard on Nov 22, 2009 15:22:57 GMT
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Post by nicola on Nov 22, 2009 16:54:40 GMT
Lol Richard! I hope you didn't think that I was hinting for a such a thing! It's not a scientific chart, so it's not all that important to get her at the top. But no harm in voting I guess. It's funny about the rumours of the two, and they are together at the top, though!  I would suggest though, that instead of making it a thread dedicated to my chart - sticky it, and have it as a voting thread. Wherever there is a place for Hayley to be voted for, you edit the first post and put it in. Loads of fansites do this. Or just keep them seperate when they come about. It's your forum! XD |
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Post by Richard on Nov 23, 2009 9:51:33 GMT
Hello Nicola! I'll change the thread title. If a new poll comes up it would be better to put the link in a new post so everybody will see it's there. Best Wishes, Richard  |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Nov 23, 2009 20:40:31 GMT
We'll get her there, I'm sure! Can't be much longer... |
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Post by nicola on Nov 30, 2009 17:51:01 GMT
Hayley's tour manager, Nicola, has contacted me again for another interview. This time with Karl Jenkins. |
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