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Post by BenCMitchell on Sept 12, 2009 0:10:21 GMT
Hi folks We, on the live chat, have been in a discussion regarding whether we should invite Hayley to the next chat. This has brought up the question of how Hayley would actually be contacted. In my opinion, it is not wise to post a public tweet directly to Hayley, as this could attract all sorts of people, good or bad. We were at a loss on how contacting her could be achieved - by someone whom she is familiar with, like richard or Grant etc, because if I send her a tweet regarding this subject, she would probably regard me as a stalker!  . Obviously we have to respect Hayley's hectic schedule, and to not put the suggestion across 'too forcefully'. Is it possible to send private tweets, done obviously by somehow whom Hayley is familiar with, as i have said. Cheers Ben |
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Post by Caitlin on Sept 12, 2009 0:45:04 GMT
I can't get onto the website...
<3 Caitlin
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Post by martindn on Sept 12, 2009 0:54:51 GMT
Yes, I struggled too, but ot there eventually, not sure how. It isn't obvious. But I eventually saw a menu with live chat on it,and that did it.
Martin
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Post by Jono on Sept 12, 2009 0:57:55 GMT
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Post by Caitlin on Sept 12, 2009 0:58:59 GMT
the link appears to be broken  I don't understand! <3 Caitlin |
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Post by Joe on Sept 12, 2009 1:07:26 GMT
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Post by Caitlin on Sept 12, 2009 1:10:54 GMT
Still no luck =/ I guess I won't join you all right now. Bummer..
<3 Caite
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Post by matt on Sept 12, 2009 1:11:38 GMT
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Post by grant on Sept 12, 2009 7:48:11 GMT
Hi Ben
I'm not sure this is something Hayley would really go for as she would have no idea who she might be talking to (some of the time anyway) or what sort of questions may get thrown at her which could be alkward.
She did once join Belinda's chat because someone noticed her online at the official forum and invited her to join, although she didn't stay long.
Maybe Dave or one of the moderators might have an opinion.
Best wishes
Grant
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Post by BenCMitchell on Sept 12, 2009 11:29:52 GMT
Hi Ben I'm not sure this is something Hayley would really go for as she would have no idea who she might be talking to (some of the time anyway) or what sort of questions may get thrown at her which could be alkward. She did once join Belinda's chat because someone noticed her online at the official forum and invited her to join, although she didn't stay long. Maybe Dave or one of the moderators might have an opinion. Best wishes Grant Hi Grant That was one of the things that we discussed last night. I suggested that someone send her a private message, detailing the people who would be there, and that they were members of the HWI only. Also, I suggested that if this were to ever go ahead, then she should be contacted by someone she is familiar with, like yourself for example. If she were to agree with this, then the people mentioned in the message sent to her would be PM'd with the details of when the chat would be, as posting this publicly on the forum would frankly be dangerous, as anyone could show up! Cheers Ben P.S I ran all my suggestions past Joe, as he was on the live chat last night as well, and he seemed ok with the way that this could be carried out, but obviously this needs a lot of opinions |
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Post by Jono on Sept 12, 2009 12:17:56 GMT
Hi Grant That was one of the things that we discussed last night. I suggested that someone send her a private message, detailing the people who would be there, and that they were members of the HWI only. Also, I suggested that if this were to ever go ahead, then she should be contacted by someone she is familiar with, like yourself for example. If she were to agree with this, then the people mentioned in the message sent to her would be PM'd with the details of when the chat would be, as posting this publicly on the forum would frankly be dangerous, as anyone could show up! Cheers Ben P.S I ran all my suggestions past Joe, as he was on the live chat last night as well, and he seemed ok with the way that this could be carried out, but obviously this needs a lot of opinions Hi Ben, Just to clarify here, the chatroom is not for HWI only. Anyone who is a fan of Hayley and want's to have a "clean" discussion with other fans (or just listen) is welcome to join in. This includes anyone from HWI, the Official Forum, Twitter, Facebook...anywhere. I'm not sure what you regard as dangerous here? Maybe you could clarify that a bit more? If you are worried about dodgy characters joining and causing havoc in the chatroom, that is something the hosts can easily handle...yes, one or two "bad words" or abusive remarks could potentially become public if someone joined, but we always run that risk anyway, because the chatroom is open-entry (provided you have the link to get in). In any case, if it is Hayley you are worried about, you've got to remember that she is old enough to handle a little slip up. She is older than both of us. If she did happen to join, us hosts would be extra careful about who is joining and what they were saying, just to make sure. We would also have to make sure the conversation stays sensible with everyone in the chat, but I know that everyone we know would help to keep it that way anyway. I personally don't see a problem with publicly tweeting an invite (with a link) to Hayley and having a few of us Re-Tweet it to show that many of us are chatting. This is what you had a problem with because you thought other people would see the invites and join right? But there's nothing wrong if others join, as long as they aren't dodgy...and if they are, they'll be gone in a flash. What do others think of the public tweeting idea? At the end of the day it is up to Hayley if she chooses to join in, but there is no harm in us inviting her, right? Jono |
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Post by Dave on Sept 12, 2009 12:44:46 GMT
Maybe Dave or one of the moderators might have an opinion. Hi Grant and all, I'm personally against the idea, which seems to me to blur the line we have always tried to keep between Hayley's professional career and her private life. I certainly don't think we should be tweeting her directly about this kind of thing, there are good reasons why she and most other professional singers employ managers. However, I'm not the only one with an opinion about this and we are discussing it among the management team, some interesting ideas have been floated so let's see what emerges.  Cheers, Dave |
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Post by BenCMitchell on Sept 12, 2009 14:21:34 GMT
I'm not sure what you regard as dangerous here? Maybe you could clarify that a bit more? If you are worried about dodgy characters joining and causing havoc in the chatroom, that is something the hosts can easily handle... Hi Jono What I meant by dangerous was as you have described, dodgy characters. However, I am still new to the live chat aspect of internet communication, so I still lack knowledge of how these things are controlled. If you say it can be easily regulated, then I won't consider it a potential problem any more. I'm not really in favour of publicly tweeting Hayley though, on this live chat matter, as Dave described. If we broadcast an open chat that Hayley agrees to on Twitter, then that could put pressure on her, in terms of other outside parties wanting her to be part of a live chat a lot more often, that we would not be able to control. That would cause her obvious stress, and she has a lot more important issues in her hectic schedule! Dave - surely her managers wouldn't be brought in on this matter...? These are my opinions anyway... Cheers Ben |
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Post by martindn on Sept 12, 2009 19:51:47 GMT
As I said in the chat last night, I was tempted to tweet Hayley about this but thought better of it. It would be lovely to have her take part, but as you say, it would be wrong to put pressure on her.
As for the "dodgy characters", this is a messaging system. She is far more at risk from such people at her concert performances and meet and greets, where Hayley is physically present. Roger once told me he had cone across wierdos on such occasions,and I'm not sure that I haven't either.
Real stalkers would go for those events, not internet chatrooms. "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me". And words is all we would get, and we would all see them. I'm sure we would jump on anything innapropriate immediately.
Thank you to everyone who took part last night. It was a good chat.
Martin
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Post by Jono on Sept 13, 2009 1:51:15 GMT
Hi Grant and all, I'm personally against the idea, which seems to me to blur the line we have always tried to keep between Hayley's professional career and her private life. I certainly don't think we should be tweeting her directly about this kind of thing, there are good reasons why she and most other professional singers employ managers. However, I'm not the only one with an opinion about this and we are discussing it among the management team, some interesting ideas have been floated so let's see what emerges. Cheers, Dave Dave, I can see your concern on this. Let us know what the moderators think in regards to your points and others that have been shared. Oh and when you say "tweeting her directly" do you mean a "Direct Message" (private message) on twitter, or a public tweet? Or both? I also see the point of not wanting to put pressure on Hayley. Thanks, Jono |
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. Obviously we have to respect Hayley's hectic schedule, and to not put the suggestion across 'too forcefully'. Is it possible to send private tweets, done obviously by somehow whom Hayley is familiar with, as i have said.
I don't understand!
