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Post by starbuck on Jul 2, 2008 22:53:57 GMT
i have given up trying to get the newsletter. they just wont sent it to me no matter what address i put.  Monte  |
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Post by milewalker on Jul 3, 2008 0:25:58 GMT
Hello all, Roger, the link to the Hayley questionaire provided by Stephany above says that there will be 4 new songs - this would be quite an incentive for me, at least, to buy this. I could be wrong (as I often am  ) but I suspect that Songbird is a lock as one of the 4 new songs. Personally, I think the song is perfect for her - and I might also add that it is pretty close to what I envision/hope to be the sort of music that Hayley would focus on in the future. I do have a question for everybody though - is Songbird classical crossover? Jon |
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Post by Jeff on Jul 3, 2008 9:51:36 GMT
Songbird sounds fantastic, I would like to hear Hayley re-record Across the Universe of time but that may be just me No Dean it is not just you, I'd very much like that as well. Have you seen the video of the song on Youtube where Hayley and Sophie perform it as a duet at an Australina concert I think ? Superb ! |
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Post by Dean McCarten on Jul 3, 2008 12:56:44 GMT
Hi Jeff, Yes I first heard that song on Live From New Zealand DVD with Sophie before I got hold of the Limited Edition of Pure. I think they Hayley & Sophie should re-record it  |
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Post by Richard on Jul 3, 2008 14:21:12 GMT
I do have a question for everybody though - is Songbird classical crossover? Hello Jon!  When Hayley sings it, it's definitely classical crossover.  Richard  |
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Post by stuartj on Jul 4, 2008 21:05:48 GMT
Hello everyone, If you've registered with Hayley's official site newsletter, you should have received the following message. There are samples including Hayley's version of Songbird!! It sounds amazing Hi, I did register but seem to have become unregistered. Maybe because of a major crash and a new hard disc between times. Speaking of that computer problem, I did lose a little data including a video had of Hayley singing with Blake. I don't know where I got if from. I don't think it was from here. If anyone knows or has it I would be interested in getting it back. I believe it was amateur video and that if I have it on my hard drive without distributing it there is no copyright problem. I also recall seeing a lot of photos of Hayley, Vittorio, and Paul Potts at Woburn somewhere on the Net. I don't think I ever downloaded them, but I can't find them again. There were what I thought were some very charming photos of Hayley and Vittorio - who seems a very pleasant chap - larking around in a friendly way; and also a photo of Hayley and Paul Potts standing side by side (they did a duet there as you will all probably remember). Talking of Hayley's range having gone down, wouldn't Danny Boy be a little difficult for her to do at the same pitch now? My guess is that if Danny Boy and Shenandoah are included - I think the should be - it will be the old versions. I think they are amongst her favourite songs too. Although I'd rather see Dark Waltz there too, than Both Sides Now. Still, that may just be my taste. |
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Post by stuartj on Jul 4, 2008 21:16:35 GMT
Hello all, Roger, the link to the Hayley questionaire provided by Stephany above says that there will be 4 new songs - this would be quite an incentive for me, at least, to buy this. I could be wrong (as I often am ) but I suspect that Songbird is a lock as one of the 4 new songs. Personally, I think the song is perfect for her - and I might also add that it is pretty close to what I envision/hope to be the sort of music that Hayley would focus on in the future. I do have a question for everybody though - is Songbird classical crossover? Jon Well, I don't know about it being a certainty - maybe they have three certainties and have not quite made up their minds about Songbird. Then I have been known to be wrong too To elaborate on Richard's answer to your question, I take it Richard means that there is no such thing as a "classical crossover" song, just "classical crossover" singers. |
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Post by milewalker on Jul 4, 2008 22:15:07 GMT
Hello all, Roger, the link to the Hayley questionaire provided by Stephany above says that there will be 4 new songs - this would be quite an incentive for me, at least, to buy this. I could be wrong (as I often am ) but I suspect that Songbird is a lock as one of the 4 new songs. Personally, I think the song is perfect for her - and I might also add that it is pretty close to what I envision/hope to be the sort of music that Hayley would focus on in the future. I do have a question for everybody though - is Songbird classical crossover? Jon Well, I don't know about it being a certainty - maybe they have three certainties and have not quite made up their minds about Songbird. Then I have been known to be wrong too To elaborate on Richard's answer to your question, I take it Richard means that there is no such thing as a "classical crossover" song, just "classical crossover" singers. Hi Stuart Let me rephrase the question Normally, isnt classical crossover considered to be a type of music ie - a market niche? How can there be a Billboard chart in the US for a type of music which doesnt exist? Hayley's drop in range is more complex because the drop is when she sings full voice, not when she employs her "whistle register". I think that to be more specific she cant consistantly sing full voice above something like a G without losing some vocal quality. This means that it is entirely possible that she could sing Shenandoah just as she did, but has to lower the arrangement of a song like Amazing Grace or Hine e Hine. It isnt only her voice, but the arrangement of the piece and also if a whistle tone is appropriate for the piece. It is much easier to "vocalise" in a whistle tone than to sing actual words for example. Jon |
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Post by stuartj on Jul 5, 2008 4:07:54 GMT
Thanks for the explanation. I am not very knowledgable about these matters. I may gradually catch on as time goes on.
The definition of classical crossover is problematic, but "crossover" has usually applied to a singer who is singing something outside of their usual genre. Hayley is what used to be called "easy listening", a singer of ballads who does a little core classical and so is a classical crossover singer (different in my opinion to popera, which is a sub-set of crossover, perhaps).
I think the billboard chart features singers who combine some core classical with some pop or folk. I do think it has more to do with the singer than the song. Hayley has sung Shenandoah and O Mio Babbino Caro. Are they both classical crossover songs? One is an opera aria - very much classical, and the other an American folk song. It is a new area and Decca and the marketing people have included Hayley and others under "classical" in the UK, much to the purists dismay. About the best you can do is say that some songs are more popular for classical crossover singers than others. I think Blake have sung a Leonard Cohen song... is that a classcal crossover song? Others may like to try to clarify the matter.
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Post by milewalker on Jul 5, 2008 10:34:55 GMT
Hey! I can actually reply to this and get this back on topic! The title song to this album is River of Dreams - which is a prime example of a classical crossover song It is a classical theme reworked into a light pop melody. |
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Post by gra7890 on Jul 5, 2008 11:10:47 GMT
Hi Everyone, I just found time to actually listen to the clips in the Questionnaire rather than vote without. They did a good job putting them together, but how many will vote for Songbird just from a small clip compared to others they know well  Best Wishes, Graham |
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Post by stuartj on Jul 5, 2008 22:00:38 GMT
Hey! I can actually reply to this and get this back on topic! The title song to this album is River of Dreams - which is a prime example of a classical crossover song It is a classical theme reworked into a light pop melody. Thank you, milewalker: a world-class reply! But, seriously, that is an excellent definition. I think Songbird's lyrics were written by Eva Cassidy an American folky singer who died tragically young. A quick google doesn't help with where the music for it came from. |
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Post by Jenny A on Jul 5, 2008 22:17:12 GMT
I think Songbird's lyrics were written by Eva Cassidy an American folky singer who died tragically young. A quick google doesn't help with where the music for it came from. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Songbird was a Fleetwood Mac song. Hayley's version sound more like that version than the Eva Cassidy's. I must admit that I still like the Fleetwood Mac version the best. On songs like this Hayley's voice sounds a little too country and I can't stand country music, though she does sing the best "country" that I've ever heard. |
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Post by pjrcorreia on Jul 5, 2008 22:23:05 GMT
Hey! I can actually reply to this and get this back on topic! The title song to this album is River of Dreams - which is a prime example of a classical crossover song It is a classical theme reworked into a light pop melody. Thank you, milewalker: a world-class reply! But, seriously, that is an excellent definition. I think Songbird's lyrics were written by Eva Cassidy an American folky singer who died tragically young. A quick google doesn't help with where the music for it came from. Hi Stuartj, Songbird was originally written, sung and played on the piano by Christine McVie from Fleetwood Mac. Greetings from Portugal, Paulo Correia |
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Post by pjrcorreia on Jul 5, 2008 23:05:42 GMT
On songs like this Hayley's voice sounds a little too country and I can't stand country music, though she does sing the best "country" that I've ever heard. Hi Jenny, I also am not a big fan of country music, but I love the "Dixie Chicks" I've all their albums since "Wide open Spaces" and DVDs, since I discover Hayley I don't play them to often but I like them a lot. Sorry, this is a bit off topic! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifGreetings from Portugal, Paulo Correia |
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) but I suspect that Songbird is a lock as one of the 4 new songs. Personally, I think the song is perfect for her - and I might also add that it is pretty close to what I envision/hope to be the sort of music that Hayley would focus on in the future. 
