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Post by gra7890 on Jun 25, 2008 5:59:08 GMT
Hi All, Of course I will buy it and most fans who already have the Far East 'Best of' ' and Crystal' will mostly likely want this new one as well. Those that haven't got them may well be tempted by this new mix so maybe the market strategy is sound However with an old photo and few new songs maybe it is not such a good idea Time will tell i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifGraham
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Post by Tin on Jun 25, 2008 14:53:51 GMT
Hey Guys, the album has just been publicly announced in Hayley's Official website. Go check it out!
TIn
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Post by Richard on Jun 25, 2008 14:58:25 GMT
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Post by roger on Jun 25, 2008 18:00:59 GMT
Thanks Tin and Richard. That suggests that Bedlam Management sent the details to the Official site at exactly the same time as they sent them to me. The only difference is that one of us is a little quicker in putting them up than the other. Which one? Well, how can I put it?... HWI 1 - 0 HW.com Roger
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Post by Nordly on Jun 27, 2008 23:42:30 GMT
I'm thinking (for once!)that maybe there will be new recordings of the songs on it, after all, why else would international #4 be (possibly) pushed back to April-May 'o9 (I love how '09 looks with an o instead of 0!)? As far as I can tell, there is no reason, unless Hayley has to record new songs, as it doesn't seem like there will be a photoshoot, so couldn't they both be released then?
Just my thoughts...
~NL
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Post by howard on Jun 28, 2008 1:08:02 GMT
Hello All, Well I will hope that HWI will list the contents of "River of Dreams" sooner than later, beat HW with about that also. I mean look...HW under events still does not mention anything about the 4th of July in the U.S. Best Regards, Howard YEAH....HWI!!!
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Post by roger on Jun 28, 2008 8:51:43 GMT
Hi Howard, We will certainly add the tracklisting to this thread as soon as we have it. We may or may not include it on the Discography page of the main site. That depends which tracks are included. We don't *usually* reckon to include compilations but we would make an exception if they include tracks which have only previously been available on soundtracks (like 'Prayer'). My guess - and it is only a guess - is that RoD may be very similar to 'The Best of HW' which was released in Japan. That does include 'River of Dreams'. Time will tell. Roger
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Post by martindn on Jun 28, 2008 21:21:50 GMT
So UK (and most countries') record buyers are still going to have to wait even longer to hear Hayley in her "new voice". I sometimes wonder what on earth her record company are playing at. The "Very best of Hayley Westenra" in my book would probably consist of the same songs as her "Japanese Songs" album, but they would probably need to add a few classical songs for balance. But I need to be careful, in the past they have been right and I have been wrong!
Martin
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Post by milewalker on Jun 30, 2008 0:13:03 GMT
I think of "best of"s being something a record company does at the end of an artist's career, to wring a few more sales out of old material. Hi Martin, In many cases, this is exactly why it is done - though there are notable exceptions. John Denver for example had 3 different greatest hits releases. Andy Williams had more than one as well. In their cases, they were both long standing performers with a huge catalog of songs. Hayley's career progression doesnt seem to meet either criteria - her sales are too good for one, and not good enough for the other. More rarely, "best of" releases are also done to orchestrate the end of a "phase" of the artists career. In this case, while they will certainly want good sales for the old material, the real reason is buying time while the ship is being retooled. As it happens, there is a bit of evidence laying around which actually does support this speculation - though at this point I would by no means consider it definitive. Jon
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Post by stephanier on Jun 30, 2008 0:27:14 GMT
I am curious....is Hayley not going to be a classical crossover artist anymore? That seems to be what SEVERAL of the posts in different threads are suggesting. I would be very disappointed if that is true. I have not heard the Japanese songs album, but if it is "middle of the road" music I don't think it will be in my collection. I LOVE Hayley's soprano voice, and her classical style and song choices. Stef R
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Post by comet on Jun 30, 2008 0:46:50 GMT
I see no reason for Hayley to remain boxed in to a " Classification " of music such as crossover , opera or classical.
It was the music industry and the commentators who seemed to want to keep her neatly contained,
I am delighted Hayley is diversifying into other types of music , Variety IS the spice of life.
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Post by roger on Jun 30, 2008 4:06:04 GMT
John Denver for example had 3 different greatest hits releases. Just for the record, The Seekers had 110 compilations, and they were just the ones they knew about. There could have been many more. Okay, they probably are at the end of their career but they told me that ten years ago when they were still touring the world. Stef, I think Hayley will always be primarily a classical crossover artist. She has often said that she has no intention of changing direction. But she has also said that she doesn't want to be limited to any one musical genre. Her latest album happens to be specifically for the Japanese market and, no doubt, was tailored accordingly but it should not be taken as an indication that she intends to go more mainstream generally. Roger
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Post by milewalker on Jun 30, 2008 14:22:20 GMT
Hi Roger, I dont disagree with that - as I dont really know how to define classical crossover in the first place it is very difficult to argue with that statement. After all, you could take almost any "good" song from almost any genre, change the arrangement and lo and behold - you have classical crossover. For example, see Kelly Sweet's "Dream On" cover originally by Aerosmith, or Brightman's cover of "Dust in the Wind" by Kansas, or Groban's "My December" from Linkin Park. It has been posted elsewhere that what we used to call "easy listening pop" is now increasingly viewed as crossover material as well In any case I wasnt necessarily talking about an intentional "direction change" - more of what may be more accurately called a reality change. Here is just one consideration. Since her Pure days, Hayley's basic voice has dropped by about a third of an octive - and the arrangements of songs like Hine e Hine have been altered dramatically to accomodate that. If this continues, there is going to be a need for a certain change of focus before very long - the whistle tone helps, but in classical terms, she is barely a soprano now. Not that this is a bad thing overall - there are numerous witnessess attesting to the fact that her voice is now richer and deeper - and what she has lost has been more than compensated for in other ways. All I am saying is that I expect her future material to match her maturing voice - which is the primary reason why the Japanese album works as well as it does IMHO. I think it is at least possible that Hayley is undergoing a musical change of sorts as she may have discovered an entire lode of "serious music" which suits her "new" voice better than what she has sung in the past. Whether or not you call this crossover is largely a matter of semantics. But of course, I could be wrong;) Jon Oh - did the Seekers actually tour for, or specificall promote all of those complilations? That is, I thnk a possible big difference here - all "best of" albums are compilations. I dont know that the reverse is true very often Also, they are a legacy act - if you are around long enough various rules which apply to almost everyone else begin to break down. I am therefore not sure exactly how relevant they are to a 21 year old Hayley.
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Post by Natasha on Jul 1, 2008 14:30:41 GMT
I must admit my first thought when I saw this on Hayley's website was, "What? Why is she doing a 'best of' album now?" I know the record company is probably the one that made the decision but I've never been fond of the idea of releasing 'best of's' when the artist has just started their careers. I remember Kelly Clarkson was in the news for saying something like that as well, as compilations like this give the impression your career is over. Anyhow. My next thought is, what songs will be on it? Will there be any new tracks?
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Post by Tin on Jul 1, 2008 14:41:10 GMT
Hi Natasha,
Actually Decca has made more than one compilation for Hayley over these years and the lady's career is still bright and going on well. Your worry is probably redundant I think, after all Hayley still has two international albums to make before this current contract ends.
Cheers, Tin
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