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Post by sailorsgirl22 on May 4, 2008 7:05:24 GMT
I really love the song Sonny. It always reminds me of my husband while he is deployed and how I feel. I always feel left behind and part of me wishes that he wouldnt go away. But I know if he didnt join we wouldnt be married right now. Thankyou Hayley for putting this song on the album. It really touches my heart.
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Post by martindn on May 4, 2008 23:54:36 GMT
Hi Sailorsgirl,
I was going to post something, but i won't, and I have just deleted it. It would be too painful for you I am sure. Sonny seems a strange song for a sailor's girl to enjoy, since it is so tragic. It touches my heart too.
God Bless
Martin
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Post by mangiawai on Sept 5, 2008 20:25:03 GMT
This is an absolutely amazing CD!! It seems like what ever Hayley does, she does it well! I don't know many artists that have so many good songs!! Highly recommended!!
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Post by pjrcorreia on Sept 5, 2008 23:30:51 GMT
Hi Mangiawai,
You are absolutely right.
I have "Celtic treasure" and a few months later bought "Treasure" UK release, as this version have some more songs not available in the US release:
"Le Notte Del Silenzio" featuring Humphrey Berney
"Santa Lucia"
"E Pari Ra"
"Bist Du Bei Mir"
All beautiful songs, and I loved them the first time that I heard.
Greetings from Portugal,
Paulo Correia
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Post by mangiawai on Sept 8, 2008 1:29:28 GMT
Thanks pjrcorreia, I'll have to look in to that. Does anyone know why she did 2 different variations of the same CD??
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Post by Joe on Sept 8, 2008 4:29:09 GMT
Does anyone know why she did 2 different variations of the same CD?? Hello Ben! Basically, the US version was meant to include more of a Celtic touch (due to Hayley's short tour with Celtic Woman). The UK version is more of a classical arrangement; its songs carefully measured to be considered a "classical" CD. I think 60 per cent of the songs have to have its roots in the classics...as in who composed it, its instrumentation, etc. Hope this helps ya! Joe |
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Post by Libby on Sept 8, 2008 21:36:04 GMT
Does anyone know why she did 2 different variations of the same CD?? Because that's the way Decca always does it, but I wish they would stop it.  It was even worse for Odyssey, though. There are 22 songs that can each be considered an Odyssey song; but 13 are scattered on various versions! That's more than half!!  Only 9 for Treasure. Pure wasn't quite so bad, but there were 1 or 2 different versions with bonus CD's. Oh, and the UK version had My Heart and I, and the US didn't (at least not the one I got). By the way, one other song on the UK version of Treasure that Paulo forgot to mention is The Heart Worships. That's my favorite out of all the "missing" songs. I highly recommend this version! I've decided that from now on I'll always get the UK version along with the US one, so I'm less likely to miss anything. I'd rather be able to buy only 1 CD, with all the songs on it, but Decca just isn't considerate that way. |
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Post by martindn on Sept 8, 2008 21:44:59 GMT
Hi Libby,
Yes, I tend to agree. I would not have hurt them to put all of the songs on these albums. Except that because of the silly rules and hoops one has to jump through to get an album played on certain radio stations and considered for the specialist charts, they couln't do it. In the UK Hayley is regarded as a "Calssical" artist, and so her albums need to have sufficient "Classical" content to qualify for playing on "Calssical" radio stations and for inclusion the the "Classical" chart.
Personally I couln't care less about such things, but it does make a difference to the amount of media exposure Hayley gets, so I suppose that is the reason.
Martin
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Post by Dean McCarten on Sept 8, 2008 21:51:34 GMT
Does anyone know why she did 2 different variations of the same CD?? Because that's the way Decca always does it, but I wish they would stop it. It was even worse for Odyssey, though. There are 22 songs that can each be considered an Odyssey song; but 13 are scattered on various versions! That's more than half!! Only 9 for Treasure. Pure wasn't quite so bad, but there were 1 or 2 different versions with bonus CD's. Oh, and the UK version had My Heart and I, and the US didn't (at least not the one I got). By the way, one other song on the UK version of Treasure that Paulo forgot to mention is The Heart Worships. That's my favorite out of all the "missing" songs. I highly recommend this version! I've decided that from now on I'll always get the UK version along with the US one, so I'm less likely to miss anything. I'd rather be able to buy only 1 CD, with all the songs on it, but Decca just isn't considerate that way. I wonder if the Odyssey iTunes Bonus Edition is included in this list as I have found this gets missed as it is not a physical CD? But at least it gives at least 1 CD to collect on my travels to different places around the world  |
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Post by milewalker on Sept 9, 2008 0:42:32 GMT
Hi Libby, Yes, I tend to agree. I would not have hurt them to put all of the songs on these albums. Except that because of the silly rules and hoops one has to jump through to get an album played on certain radio stations and considered for the specialist charts, they couln't do it. In the UK Hayley is regarded as a "Calssical" artist, and so her albums need to have sufficient "Classical" content to qualify for playing on "Calssical" radio stations and for inclusion the the "Classical" chart. Personally I couln't care less about such things, but it does make a difference to the amount of media exposure Hayley gets, so I suppose that is the reason. Martin In America at least (and I suspect the UK as well, but dont know) it also makes a difference in terms of where an album is merchandized at a record store. You wont usually find her here in pop or rock, and you usually wont find her in classical either - though there are exceptions to both rules. Where you will likely find her is in easy listening, new age, or if the store is eclectic enough pop standards. In any case, while I actually do share many of the misgivings about classification you do, there does have to be a logical way to keep her separate from Hayley Williams. Jon |
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Post by milewalker on Sept 9, 2008 0:46:50 GMT
Does anyone know why she did 2 different variations of the same CD?? Because that's the way Decca always does it, but I wish they would stop it. It was even worse for Odyssey, though. There are 22 songs that can each be considered an Odyssey song; but 13 are scattered on various versions! That's more than half!! Only 9 for Treasure. Pure wasn't quite so bad, but there were 1 or 2 different versions with bonus CD's. Oh, and the UK version had My Heart and I, and the US didn't (at least not the one I got). By the way, one other song on the UK version of Treasure that Paulo forgot to mention is The Heart Worships. That's my favorite out of all the "missing" songs. I highly recommend this version! I've decided that from now on I'll always get the UK version along with the US one, so I'm less likely to miss anything. I'd rather be able to buy only 1 CD, with all the songs on it, but Decca just isn't considerate that way. There is one thing to keep in mind here. The actual number of "collectors" - the people who would buy multiple versions - is very small. The vast majority will only buy the version available in their local market. So, while I am sure that Decca likes to see multiple sales, I doubt very much if that is the reason they do this. I think they are targeting (or trying to target) local tastes. They arent very good at it..... Jon |
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Post by martindn on Sept 9, 2008 20:53:06 GMT
You can say that again! I can only put it down to them not really knowing how to handle an artist like Hayley. They have had classical sopranos before, and that's the way they want to classify her, but she doesn't quite fit the mould. They have had folk singers before I'm sure, but she doesn't fit that either. And UCJ isn't really into mass market pop, or even so-called "quality" pop. So they don't quite know what to do with her, even though they must recognise her exceptional talent.
The thing is I think Hayley will go along with whatever they ask her to do, thinking that the professionals know what is best to promote her career. She just relishes the opportunity to sing for her supper. She also, I think likes to experiment and try new things, but is perhaps a bit too cautious about doing so.
Martin
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Post by grant on Sept 9, 2008 22:39:17 GMT
I think Hayley will go along with whatever they ask her to do, thinking that the professionals know what is best to promote her career. Hi Martin Not sure that's true. Hayley certainly knew what she wanted for Pure and got it. She was only 16 then, so I'm sure she knows what she's doing now. Whether Decca/UCJ does is another matter entirely! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by milewalker on Sept 10, 2008 1:23:09 GMT
I think Hayley will go along with whatever they ask her to do, thinking that the professionals know what is best to promote her career. Hi Martin Not sure that's true. Hayley certainly knew what she wanted for Pure and got it. She was only 16 then, so I'm sure she knows what she's doing now. Whether Decca/UCJ does is another matter entirely! Best wishes Grant Hi Grant and Martin, Apart from the question of whether or not Hayley knew what she was doing with Pure, I would actually find it somewhat surprising if she has the same amount of clout with Decca now as she had a few years back. Jon |
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Post by mangiawai on Sept 10, 2008 20:08:31 GMT
I think it is rather odd that they try to market to the few collectors. And I think that Hayley would have more clout now than when she did when she released pure. But, I also think that she doesn't bother with the marketing too much, if any, that's Decca's job. I agree with Grant that its Decca's job and i hope they know what they are doing.
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It was even worse for Odyssey, though. There are 22 songs that can each be considered an Odyssey song; but 13 are scattered on various versions! That's more than half!! 
Only 9 for Treasure. 
