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Post by postscript on Aug 22, 2006 14:50:17 GMT
Hi all.
Following on I have received the following response from New Zealand, which explains several anomalies I had discovered.
Hello Peter
Thank you for your email. The rose we market in New Zealand in support of UNICEF NZ's fund raising efforts in Africa was bred by the German rose company Rosen-Tantau. As a Master Agent/Rose introducer for Rosen-Tantau in NZ, we are able to promote their varieties using names which we feel suit our market - we were very fortunate to get the support of UNICEF NZ on this. The rose we are selling as Hayley Westenra is being marketed in the UK as Rachel ( its international trademark name is tanguste) - this is because they received the variety before we did in New Zealand and the Master Agent in the UK decided to call the variety Rachel - it is the same rose.
If you make contact with Thomas Loffler, at Rosen-Tantau - email tantau@rosen-tantau.com he will be able to tell you where you might locate plants of Rachel - in time for the concert on 23 September.
I hope this is of some help to you.
Best wishes
George Pratt
Needless to say an email has been sent to Germany for follow-through details.
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Post by drew on Aug 22, 2006 14:57:49 GMT
Peter,
I am already on the case and await a reply from Germany. I had identified that it came from Tantau.
The local agent for Tantau is in Reading.
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Post by drew on Aug 22, 2006 15:03:49 GMT
Here is Rachel and she looks quite different to Hayley! rosesuk.com/rose_locator/roses/hybrid_tea_spiral_bud_form/608_rachel.php  So it's back to Roger to call in at Wych Cross or Apuldram. Or for you or I to pop into Burstons in St. Albans. (I shall be seeing the daughter of one of the partners at Burstons on Saturday down at Petworth but I don't think she is into roses!) |
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Post by drew on Aug 22, 2006 15:36:44 GMT
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Post by thomas on Aug 22, 2006 20:19:17 GMT
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Post by drew on Aug 22, 2006 21:15:11 GMT
For Peter, "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." At last the mystery unfurls. www.worldrose.org/trials/glasgow3.html Worldwide name - Tangust. Created by Tantau in Germany. In Germany this is Augusta Luise. In United Kingdom this is Rachel. In New Zealand (and shortly in Sloane Terrace) this is Hayley Westenra. (I graduated with Honours in Botany in 1972. I knew that it would have a use one day.) |
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Post by Richard on Aug 23, 2006 7:50:43 GMT
Will there be a big 'Kew' to buy a Hayley Westenra rose?  Exit, stage left... Richard  |
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Post by postscript on Aug 23, 2006 15:15:21 GMT
For Peter, "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." At last the mystery unfurls. www.worldrose.org/trials/glasgow3.htmlWorldwide name - Tangust. Created by Tantau in Germany. In Germany this is Augusta Luise. In United Kingdom this is Rachel. In New Zealand (and shortly in Sloane Terrace) this is Hayley Westenra. (I graduated with Honours in Botany in 1972. I knew that it would have a use one day.) Well done Drew. Thanks for your contribution. Looks a pretty thing though not really a buttonhole but I don't think that fact will deter HWI! Athough the bud rather than the flower would be okay. Any iea of its scent? Now that's put you on the spot--how do you describe the scent of a rose, although surprisingly I have just caught a wiff of a rose scent and I am not anywhere near any! Gosh. I really can smell roses! Must be my psychic sixth sense! Peter |
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Post by postscript on Aug 23, 2006 16:01:21 GMT
Peter, I am already on the case and await a reply from Germany. I had identified that it came from Tantau. The local agent for Tantau is in Reading. Well done Drew. I wait to hear. In the mean time congratulations on your first 100 posts although I think I have already done that? Peter |
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Post by drew on Aug 23, 2006 16:35:16 GMT
Looks a pretty thing though not really a buttonhole but I don't thinl that fact will deter HWI! Athough the bud rather than the flower would be okay. Any iea of its scent? Now that's put you on the spot--how do you describe the scent of a rose, although surprisingly i have just caught a wiff of a rose scent and i am not anywhere near any! Gosh. I really can smell roses! Must be my psychic sixth sense! Peter (This is the desription from Apuldram.) 15 cms is a lot of buttonhole. It is classified as VF (Very Fragrant). |
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Post by drew on Aug 24, 2006 8:25:25 GMT
Peter, I am already on the case and await a reply from Germany. I had identified that it came from Tantau. The local agent for Tantau is in Reading. Well done Drew. I wait to hear. In the mean time congratulations on your first 100 posts although I think I have already done that? Peter Here is my reply from Tantau. I guess it didn't answer the question of agent as they are happy to ship from Germany, and they didn't mention Tangust specifically. Note that they only ship bare-roots during winter. I eagerly await my pots from Apuldram in Chichester. I shall post photo when the first bud opens. Dear ,
sure we send bare rooted rose plants to the UK too. The mailing costs are about 17.- (central like London) or 37.- EUR (rural places) (depending on your postcode and the weight of the parcel) with German Parcel. The rose plants costs between 3.20 to 9.50 EUR each. The season for bare root stocks is mid October to November and again in the spring from March to April. We have got about 250 other roses on sell, you find them on our homepage in the german part (Deutsch, Rosen-Shop). Sorry we can not use credit cards but you can transfer the money. For sending you the roses we need your postal address.
We ask kindly for payment by money bank transfer prior to the shipment, after the order confirmation.
With best regards,
R O S E N T A N T A U
Germany.
Ms Ulrike Herbst
Phone: +49 4122 7084
Fax: +49 4122 7087
Internet: www.rosen-tantau.com
E-mail: tantau@rosen-tantau.com |
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Post by postscript on Aug 24, 2006 9:49:34 GMT
If your garden is large enough, Drew, perhaps you could supply the whole of WHI! Perhaps in conjunction with Roger's conservatory!
As I live in a flat and don't want to wait until next year I think I'll pursue the florists down the road.
Peter
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Post by drew on Aug 25, 2006 12:35:51 GMT
Hayley Westenra (AKA Rachel) is alive and well and had just arrived in Bedfordshire. She smells fantastic.  One flower open and six buds to go. This will need careful nurturing. Well done Apuldram for delivering as promised and many thanks to Tasman Bay Roses for the explanation of Hayley's genealogy. www.apuldramroses.co.uk/www.tbr.co.nz/And that is a further NZD 8.00 just gone towards Ghana as promised. www.unicef.org.nz/projects/bikes-for-ghana.htmlButtonhole orders taken for Cadogan Hall. One free with every HDW silk tie? |
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Post by drew on Aug 25, 2006 13:00:40 GMT
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Post by Steve H on Aug 25, 2006 13:38:00 GMT
Hi Drew, Congratulations at receiving your Rachael AKA Hayley Westenra Rose, Its good to see that when you get your teeth into a subject you 'Make it Happen' I shall pass your comments on to Simon, and thanks for the digital pic, look after the rose I look forward to seeing the real thing at Cadogan Hall! Lets hope they do not bloom too quickly! Exit stage left (Stage door  ) Steve H |
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