European Tour - Sept/Oct 2007

[Natasha]

I am so sorry to hear that Celtic Woman had to cancel their UK tour! It is a real shame and pity, but even stars as big as American Idol Kelly Clarkson have had to cancel tours recently due to bad ticket sales so it's definitely not unheard of. I'm sure us in the states will be more than willing to welcome the girls back with open arms though!!

BTW, I didn't see this mentioned so I thought I'd post it here... According to www.celticwoman.com the entire UK/European show has been "postponed." So you still have hope for the future guys! Ohh and Celtic Woman will be touring Japan shortly. Good for them!

Best Wishes everyone!

Hugs,
Your Tashi

P.S I know that there is going to be a lot of disappointment about all of this, but let's try to remember that the girls themselves are not to blame, (honestly I don't think anyone us to blame for the ticket sales) and they are an absolutely brilliant group.... really I love them as a group so much that I really hate reading anything that puts them down, lol. And there are so many people to put other people down, so instead of following that trend why don't we try to lift others up? It's worth a try at least, don't you think?!

[fusilier23]

I have a suspicion there may be more US dates coming, that's where they make their money. If they get to the NJPAC or near here, anyone else in?

BTW, Tashi, no one wants to put the girls down, but I can tell you from experience that getting mistreated by PBS or a touring company or management is lousy, and can engender lousy feelings. So it's ok to be mad at that, just don't target the girls.

Maybe this time you'll actually get to see them?

[tonyw]

Hi

The RAH has now refunded my credit card with the cost of tickets and booking fee. This was done without any prompting. They have not sent an e-mail about the cancellation of the concert though, which I find odd.

I feel sorry for those who have paid for airline tickets as it is difficult to obtain a refund.

I hope those CWF fans who made snide/cynical remarks about Steve Abbott will now apologise. I won't hold my breath. It appears that any criticism of CW mangement is not tolerated on CWF.

The whole tour was badly thought out from the start. How did they expect to fill big venues such as The RHA and The BIC with an act that is virtually unkown in The UK?. How many HWI members would have known of CW if had not been for Hayley's involvement. A cynical person might be forgiven for thinking that taking money for concerts, that were known not to be taking place , was an easy way of obtaining an interest free loan

Tony

[Stephany]

Hi all,

I received a letter from the Royal Albert Hall in the mail this morning. I haven't been refunded yet but I suppose it will be done today or tomorrow.

Best wishes,
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[fusilier23]

I wouldn't hold my breath, Tony, there's prolly no rush to send an email, and I wouldn't hold my breath for any apologies, either, CWF, like another site for another artist who shall remain nameless, is run by internet fascists who live by the rule that if you don't like what someone has to say, don't let them say it. They would do very well in present-day Venezuela or Iraq or Afghanistan before the old regimes were booted.

[alcan1]

fusilier23 said:

I wouldn't hold my breath, Tony, there's prolly no rush to send an email, and I wouldn't hold my breath for any apologies, either, CWF, like another site for another artist who shall remain nameless, is run by internet fascists who live by the rule that if you don't like what someone has to say, don't let them say it. They would do very well in present-day Venezuela or Iraq or Afghanistan before the old regimes were booted.

Yep. You hit the nail on the head. CWF is not fan friendly. Its management friendly since the original admin gave it up after being terrorized by CW LTD directly in emails.

[Richard]

Hello Stephany!

I received the same letter as you yesterday, but I'd already sorted out my refund at the Royal Albert Hall's box office on Tuesday afternoon.

I hope nobody tries to blame the venues for the confusion. They could only act on the information given to them by Celtic Woman's management and/or the promoter of the tour.

Best Wishes,

Richard

[Stephany]

I hope so, Richard !
The following statement was posted in today's 'Evening Manchester News' (link).

Celtic Woman date cancelled
Adam Moss
16/ 8/2007



Described as 'Riverdance with voices', the Manchester tour date of Celtic Woman has been cancelled, the venue have confirmed.

The show has already enchanted audiences across the globe - selling 500,000 tickets in the US alone, but will sadly now not play here in September.

A statement released by the venue explaining the pulled September 22 show said: "Due to circumstances beyond our control, Celtic Woman Ltd are cancelling all of their UK concert dates.

"All patrons who have booked for this concert will have the value of their tickets refunded.

"We are advising patrons to return their tickets to The Bridgewater Hall Box Office in the freepost envelope we have provided or contact The Bridgewater Hall Box Office on 0161 907 9000 to receive a refund."

The cast were due to be joined by New Zealand singing sensation Hayley Westenra (pictured).

Click on this link for more information: Bridgewater Hall.

Stephany

I fixed the link with noubbc tags.
Richard

[stephanier]

I read on this thread (posted in July) that Hayley joined the CW tour for exposure for her in the States and she was joining them in Britain/Europe to get them some exposure in the UK and overseas. Just curious what happened. She was great with them when I saw them in New York! It is a shame it was cancelled.
Stephanie R

[roger]

Hi Stephanie R,

That was our understanding too (about each helping the other to become better known on either side of the pond). Presumably, something happened to change that but I honestly don't have any idea what it might have been. All we have been told is that Hayley is concentrating on her solo career.

Many of Hayley's fans over here (including me) only came to know Celtic Woman because of her. It would have been nice to see them perform together but it looks as though it will never happen now.

Roger

[mkc]

fusilier23 said:

I wouldn't hold my breath, Tony, there's prolly no rush to send an email, and I wouldn't hold my breath for any apologies, either, CWF, like another site for another artist who shall remain nameless, is run by internet fascists who live by the rule that if you don't like what someone has to say, don't let them say it. They would do very well in present-day Venezuela or Iraq or Afghanistan before the old regimes were booted.

Now, I'll be one of the first to admit that the CWF has it's flaws, but I would disagree with some of what both Tony and fusilier23 have said. And while yes, some of the members of the forum are obnoxious, arrogant, and a lot of other things, I'd like to think some of us are decent people. Let's not bash a whole forum when only some are to blame.

[fusilier23]

I stand by what I said. Sorry if you disagree, but I'm not changing it.

[alcan1]

fusilier23 said:

I stand by what I said. Sorry if you disagree, but I'm not changing it.

Same here. Things are not always as they seem. I wont post publicly as to events surrounding the creation of the CW forum and why the original admin gave it up in addition to other things but it was those events that are why there are several people in charge of that forum (past and present) who will not allow any oposing of critical view or free speech within the threads. And they attack anyone who dares to shed light on any wrong doing within CW management which is why this thread is far more detailed then the information is on CWF. This site is far better and those that run it understand the importance of airing all views. If people were critical of Hayley here on this forum or of her management then Id be willing to bet those that moderate this forum wouldnt delete posts but would explain their view without attacking, banning locking every thread or flat out deleting the entire forum and starting from scratch. Heck thats not even done on Hayleys official forum and Ive seen all knids of negitive posts over there and they were never deleted. That basic difference shows the type of person Hayley is and how their management is. They, unlike CW LTD value all opinions and allow any critical or oposing viewpoint to stand on its own merrit. This forum seems to be the same.

[Stephany]

roger said:

Many of Hayley's fans over here (including me) only came to know Celtic Woman because of her. It would have been nice to see them perform together but it looks as though it will never happen now.

Hi Roger and Stephanier,

The contrary is also real. I don't know if I would have known Hayley without Celtic Woman given her (very) small exposure in France. I'm eternally grateful to Celtic Woman for this priceless 'discovery' Back on topic, I have been refunded by the RAH. Nothing yet from the Bridgewater Hall but it shouldn't be long before I get a refund too.

Stephany

[tonyw]

mkc said:

Now, I'll be one of the first to admit that the CWF has it's flaws, but I would disagree with some of what both Tony and fusilier23 have said. And while yes, some of the members of the forum are obnoxious, arrogant, and a lot of other things, I'd like to think some of us are decent people. Let's not bash a whole forum when only some are to blame.

Hi mkc

I obviously cannot speak for fuselier23 but I was not critical of all CWF members, merely those who had no respect for Steve Abbott's and HWI's information about the cancellation of the tour. I am sure the vast majority of CWF members are tolerant and respectful. However, If you can find one post that is critical of CW managemant please let us know. This would not be the fault of CWF members but the administration.

I am still a great fan of CW and was looking forward to their concert with or without Hayley.

Tony