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Post by Raymond on Mar 11, 2006 7:25:08 GMT
I have just checked the official site. The tracklist becomes:
ODYSSEY (UK VERSION) - FULL TRACKLISTING - 475 7705
1. May It Be
2. The Water Is Wide
3. Dell'Amore Non Si Sa - Bocelli duet
4. Lascia
5. Prayer
6. Ave Maria - Caccini
7. Scarborough Fair
8. Quanta Qualia
9. O Mio Babbino Caro
10. What You Never Know
11. Both Sides Now
12. Mists of Islay
13. Laudate Dominum
14. She Moves Through The Fair
I am wondering why.
Raymond
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Post by roger on Mar 11, 2006 11:47:41 GMT
...Now where's my "thinking cap" gone  Regards, Andrew If you find it, Andrew, is it available for hire?  Roger |
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Post by Andrew on Mar 11, 2006 11:58:32 GMT
Hi Roger, Heh-Heh! Re: the "thinking cap"... mine is rather worn, but you're more than welcome to hire it! How does one recharge one's thinking cap? I tend to shut mine away in a dark cupboard. I then proceed to enjoy 3 hot meals a day, have a laugh, a bit of active sport (whenever possible) a decent night's sleep and a cup of homeground coffee in the morning... Maybe I'm going wrong somewhere?  Andrew |
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Post by Dave on Mar 11, 2006 13:21:26 GMT
I have just checked the official site. The tracklist becomes: ODYSSEY (UK VERSION) - FULL TRACKLISTING - 475 7705 1. May It Be 2. The Water Is Wide 3. Dell'Amore Non Si Sa - Bocelli duet 4. Lascia 5. Prayer 6. Ave Maria - Caccini 7. Scarborough Fair 8. Quanta Qualia 9. O Mio Babbino Caro 10. What You Never Know 11. Both Sides Now 12. Mists of Islay 13. Laudate Dominum 14. She Moves Through The Fair I am wondering why. Raymond Hi Raymond, you're not the only one who's wondering why! The page of the official site listing those 14 tracks links to a page at HMV UK listing the 19 track version with a different (earlier) catalogue number. The UK Odyssey Special Edition page at Amazon UK has changed to list the same 14 tracks as the official site now lists - but the catalogue number is the same as HMV i.e. the same as thje previously advised 19 track version. At least one of them must be wrong. The only thing all three places have in common is that they all now have the release date as April 10th. I have no idea what's going on here... Dave |
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Post by roger on Mar 11, 2006 13:51:55 GMT
I do. It'll be a birthday surprise for Hayley!  Roger |
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Post by Dave on Mar 11, 2006 16:08:45 GMT
I do. It'll be a birthday surprise for Hayley! Roger LOL! Only [glow=blue,5,1500] 30[/glow] days to go!!!  But I'll tell you what, they do love complicating things over in Deccaland. If we assume that the new tracklisting is correct, it may explain the sudden 2 week slippage in release dates but the question is, why? Speculation time!!! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifWhy Decca may have changed it:1. Surprise birthday present  2. Dress it up even more to look like a new album by changing all the tracks round. 3. Lets them remix a couple of the "classical" arrangements back to how they should be, if they want to (there are possibly two more 'classical' tracks for chart purposes than they need). 4. Lets them drop the oldest material (Wiegenlied, Bridal Ballad). 5. Lets them drop the least 'populist' classical pieces (Dido's Lament, Bachianas). 6. Less tracks means less Royalties to pay out = cheaper album and/or more profits? Not sure about that one. 7. Existing owners of Odyssey who buy the new version won't lose anything anyway as they still get all the new material and maybe a couple of remixes, too! Points against what they've done:1. Sales probably won't combine with the original Odyssey (only 68% of the original version track listing are on both versions - 80% is needed). This also happened with UK Pure SE. 2. They left off Never Saw Blue  3. Erm.... can't think of any more at the moment. Any offers? Dave |
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Post by Raymond on Mar 11, 2006 16:16:01 GMT
against:
If I am a new fan who have only heard of Hayley when the Special Edition is released. I see two albums. One is the original one, one is the special one. But the original one has 16 tracks, the special one has only 14, if the price is similar, I will buy the original one, so, only 14 tracks is not good for the sales of the Special Edition.
Raymond
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Post by kcuteus1 on Mar 11, 2006 16:50:17 GMT
I would not call this cd a Special Edition I would call it a repagked , release of the cd. there are labels that do this and it is done to get some people that do not have the cd and new fans. I may get the japan best of and Stephanie is getting this one.
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Post by roger on Mar 11, 2006 18:38:52 GMT
Hi Dave, I think you have made some very valid observations, with some good additional points from Raymond and Kimberly. I have always been unclear what the title "Special Edition" really means. The first album of Hayley's that I ever bought was original UK version of 'Pure' just a week or so after it was released. It had "Special Edition" written on it! Why? I think Kimberly is right. Not so much a special edition, more of a re-packaged version. Is it usual to have a completely different cover picture on SEs? Roger |
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Post by Richard on Mar 12, 2006 9:31:32 GMT
Hello everybody!  I already have two different versions of "Odyssey", so I will only be buying the new UK edition for the new tracks. Personally I'm not too worried about which of the existing tracks will be dropped from the new version, but people who have been waiting specially for the new edition will be disappointed. In the case of "Pure" I felt the International version was better than the UK "Special Edition" because it included "Across The Universe Of Time", so I think "Special Edition" is just a marketing ploy to boost sales.  Richard  |
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Post by roger on Mar 12, 2006 11:42:35 GMT
I agree with you, Richard. I also think that the removal of some of the original tracks is part of that marketing ploy. I suggested in an earlier post that fans will realise that Special Editions are becoming the norm and they will eventually refrain from buying the original version in the knowledge that a better deal is on its way. However, if original tracks are dropped, that will force the loyal fans to buy both versions. I don't mean to appear cynical but I am somewhat troubled by this apparent ploy.
Roger
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Post by Andrew on Mar 12, 2006 14:43:19 GMT
Hi Roger, Dave and Richard, The "Special Edition" saga continues! As Roger suggests, the loyal fans who are serious collectors (like me too!) really get drawn in by the marketing ploy, since it's nice to own a copy of each version of the CD.  I would love to hear a few more live Hayley tracks  included on future 'S.E.' CDs... such as the duet of 'Pokarekare Ana' with Russell Watson, included on the Aus/ NZ 'Limited Edition Bonus Christmas CD' version of 'Pure'. I love to hear Hayley singing her songs live- remember the outstanding numbers she sang on that Radio 2 programme introduced by Aled Jones, late last year? I know Decca have released a fantastic live Hayley DVD, but I wonder if they have considered releasing a live Hayley CD (a compilation of live tracks recorded on various Tours). I would have thought that a lot of people would like to own one. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. Regards, Andrew |
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Post by Richard on Mar 12, 2006 15:26:07 GMT
Hello Andrew! I would certainly buy a live CD of Hayley, although it wouldn't capture Hayley's visual stage presence as her DVD does. Incidentally, the radio programme you're thinking of was BBC Radio 2's "Friday Night is Music Night". I'm a stickler for discipline (not really!), so to keep this thread on topic, there are now 29 days to go to the likely release date of the new UK "Odyssey" on Hayley's 19th Birthday! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif Best Wishes, Richard |
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Post by roger on Mar 12, 2006 16:33:42 GMT
Hi Andrew, Don't take any notice of Richard - I like a little detour now and then! A live CD would be superb. The best duet I ever heard was 'Hine e Hine' during the UK tour in November 2004 when Hayley sang it with Greek tenor Mario Frangoulis. I can't believe that was almost a year before the release of.... ODYSSEY. There ya go, Richard. Back on track in no time! Roger |
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Post by Dave on Apr 2, 2006 12:39:39 GMT
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included on future 'S.E.' CDs... such as the duet of 'Pokarekare Ana' with Russell Watson, included on the Aus/ NZ 'Limited Edition Bonus Christmas CD' version of 'Pure'.