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Post by Libby on Nov 4, 2015 7:18:07 GMT
Simba, don't "speak" to me as if I've never listened to a Hayley album before. No, it's not her most nasally song ever, yet it's still more nasally than I prefer to hear. The point is, it's good, but not amazing. Sorry we don't agree, but that's the way it is. Moving on... Well I'm sorry, but it did seem you had forgotten what Hayley sounded like in her recordings the last couple of years if you had to call this nasal. I more than anyone else have been very critical about Hayley's vocals, and there was a point when I brought up the whole nasal/flat technique that she's been using....you didn't agree with me then. It's all relative, I don't have a problem with us disagreeing nor with you not liking this song a lot, that's up to you. But if you found this nasal, It'd make sense that you despised some of her last recordings and performances. Though clearly, that's again not the case. Simba, how do you know that I don't think Winter Magic is nasally? Could it be because this album is now 6 years old, and you have not been a member that long? Except, I know I've brought this up in the last few years. But of course, I don't expect you to remember all of my posts. But is it really necessary for me to list every song Hayley has sounded nasally in just because I brought up nasalliness? Anyway, as I said, it ISN'T her most nasally song, but it's still MORE nasally than I'd like to hear. The only reason I'm concerned about it is that it makes me worry that her own album will be this way, too. Comet, Bob stands for Battle of Britain. I don't remember all of the songs. It wasn't the songs I didn't like, though they were certainly old-fashioned for me. It was how nasally and thin her voice sounded in the songs. That was in 2010, before she recorded Paradiso. At the time, I was worried about how her next album would sound because of this, as well as (yes, Simba!) her most recent album, Winter Magic, which I found slightly disappointing (more due to song selection than vocals, though). However, Ennio Morricone helped improve her vocals greatly, and that has lasted (for the most part) ever since. I just hope she doesn't start up the nasalliness again. I wish she'd record her songs the way she sang her Madison concert setlist. |
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Post by Richard on Nov 4, 2015 9:43:18 GMT
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Post by Simba on Nov 4, 2015 15:10:50 GMT
Well I'm sorry, but it did seem you had forgotten what Hayley sounded like in her recordings the last couple of years if you had to call this nasal. I more than anyone else have been very critical about Hayley's vocals, and there was a point when I brought up the whole nasal/flat technique that she's been using....you didn't agree with me then. It's all relative, I don't have a problem with us disagreeing nor with you not liking this song a lot, that's up to you. But if you found this nasal, It'd make sense that you despised some of her last recordings and performances. Though clearly, that's again not the case. Simba, how do you know that I don't think Winter Magic is nasally? Could it be because this album is now 6 years old, and you have not been a member that long? Except, I know I've brought this up in the last few years. But of course, I don't expect you to remember all of my posts. But is it really necessary for me to list every song Hayley has sounded nasally in just because I brought up nasalliness? Anyway, as I said, it ISN'T her most nasally song, but it's still MORE nasally than I'd like to hear. The only reason I'm concerned about it is that it makes me worry that her own album will be this way, too. Haha, clearly both of us are on the same page and want the same thing....Good that you pointed out Winter Magic, exactly when the change in style happened, has been clinging on to her ever since even till now....To me even the Madison concert was nasal, cutting short words and all, especially May it be. Would have definitely sounded better since you heard it in person....but oh well. We all want the best from her, that we know she's capable of. We'll see, something tells me all of us will be satisfied with the album, but I also feel like most songs will be like this song, tonewise, for the better or for worse. XD |
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Post by comet on Nov 4, 2015 23:02:25 GMT
Haha, clearly both of us are on the same page and want the same thing... XD I always thought we were all here because we were all on the same page. Wishing the best for Hayley in her career and personal life no matter which way she chose to go and supporting her through thick and thin, feast or famine. |
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Post by Libby on Nov 4, 2015 23:09:02 GMT
I didn't get to hear May it Be in person. You must be thinking of Juliette's videos from Cork, where she certainly did sing it.  Of course, that concert was right before Madison, so there probably wasn't much difference. But for me, this was the best I've ever heard her sing, because it was live. There was no tinniness, no muffled-ness, no echoing, or any of the other issues with audio that you get from a fan video. It was just her voice through the theatre's sound system, and the sound was excellent. Her voice and technique were outstanding! She may have done the things you describe, but it was not noticed, so, as far as I could tell, had no negative effect at all. She sang everything pretty much perfectly. You may have thought differently, but I really don't think anyone in the entire theatre did. However, the videos from the 2nd night did reveal some imperfections that were not there the night before, but this was because her cold was setting in. She may have been fighting it off in Ireland, too, but as I say, Madison on Dec. 18th was nothing short of perfection. If she would just record her music the way she performs her concerts, that would be incredible. |
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Post by Libby on Nov 4, 2015 23:23:01 GMT
Hmmm... didn't Andrea Bocelli sing with Pavarotti at some point, though? I don't know, for some reason I thought they had. Maybe it was only once, and that was why it was in my head. Oh well, I'm not right all the time.  Comet, we are on the same page, perhaps we're just not all on the same paragraph. Or, perhaps a better analogy would be, we're all reading the same book, a Hayley book, but some of us are on different pages. Some fans might long for the Pure days, while some are looking ahead to what's next. Which means, right now, we're all on the last page, waiting for the [many!] remaining blank pages to be filled with wonderful, yet-still-unknown, things. Meanwhile, to pass the time, we're often turning the pages back to other chapters of her career, because we have nothing else to think about, or we use those old chapters for comparison, etc. Everyone has different thoughts and opinions, and this forum is for discussion of these varying thoughts and opinions  |
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Post by frenchie on Nov 5, 2015 1:44:12 GMT
If she would just record her music the way she performs her concerts, that would be incredible. And that's called a live record!  This is one thing I have wondered about since Madison. Why does Hayley not have a live record? I understand it's not cheap, especially "mic-ing" an orchestra, singer, and in some cases, a band. But it would be wonderful souvenirs of her tours and all the songs she has performed. Not to mention, everyone who has seen her seems to have positive experiences at her concerts. Could add new fans in the process. And it would not cost as much as a live video, which I have read here that Hayley finally paid her part off of Live in NZ in like 2009...4-5 years after the recording. Don't get me wrong! I would love a new live video recording, but I have a feeling they are weary about it. Glad we have super-duper fans recording everything! And bootlegs do exists! Just wish they were in better quality. No offense guys! <3 |
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Post by Richard on Nov 5, 2015 9:44:02 GMT
Hello Libby!  Yes, Andrea Bocelli has sung with Luciano Pavarotti several times. Here's a video from 2003: Richard  |
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Post by comet on Nov 5, 2015 10:23:23 GMT
And that's called a live record! This is one thing I have wondered about since Madison. Why does Hayley not have a live record? I understand it's not cheap, especially "mic-ing" an orchestra, singer, and in some cases, a band. But it would be wonderful souvenirs of her tours and all the songs she has performed. Not to mention, everyone who has seen her seems to have positive experiences at her concerts. Could add new fans in the process. And it would not cost as much as a live video, which I have read here that Hayley finally paid her part off of Live in NZ in like 2009...4-5 years after the recording. Don't get me wrong! I would love a new live video recording, but I have a feeling they are weary about it. Glad we have super-duper fans recording everything! And bootlegs do exists! Just wish they were in better quality. No offense guys! <3 I know we are slipping off topic here, Live albums are often made years later from recordings that may have been made over a series of concerts over several nights, weeks, months or even years. This method gives lots of versions of the same song to choose from and no two performances and recordings are ever identical. Sometimes they are just a "one night only" type recording. At least one of Hayley's Concerts at the National Concert Hall in Dublin was officially recorded and broadcast later on one of the RTE radio channels. |
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Post by martindn on Nov 5, 2015 11:53:47 GMT
At least one of Hayley's Concerts at the National Concert Hall in Dublin was officially recorded and broadcast later on one of the RTE radio channels. I remember a guy with a professional video camera in front of me at the front of the balcony at Cork too. That was the second night when I was in the balcony. I had assumed he was the guy taking the pics that were projected on the big screen behind Hayley during the concert, but it's possible he was recording it too. Martin D |
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Post by Libby on Nov 5, 2015 23:58:27 GMT
Hello Libby! Yes, Andrea Bocelli has sung with Luciano Pavarotti several times. Here's a video from 2003: Richard Thanks, Richard. I don't feel quite so silly now. |
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Post by Richard on Nov 6, 2015 8:02:08 GMT
There's a review of 'My Christmas' at Broadway World. Click on the link to read it. Richard |
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Post by Libby on Dec 17, 2015 7:16:44 GMT
Here are some nice tweets about Hayley's duet with Placido Domingo, in response to her own recent tweet about it:
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Post by Richard on Dec 18, 2015 9:30:43 GMT
I've just seen the note from Amazon.com in this tweet from Hayley. It appears the CD is manufactured on demand, which could explain why it hasn't appeared in the charts. The embedded tweet cuts off the last sentence: "Amazon.com's standard return policy will apply." Richard |
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Post by Libby on Dec 19, 2015 6:55:03 GMT
Also, there are no song samples on Amazon.com, and to me it doesn't appear as though it's available for download. So I doubt it'll sell much on Amazon.com. Maybe more so in the UK and Europe.
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This is one thing I have wondered about since Madison. Why does Hayley not have a live record? I understand it's not cheap, especially "mic-ing" an orchestra, singer, and in some cases, a band. But it would be wonderful souvenirs of her tours and all the songs she has performed. Not to mention, everyone who has seen her seems to have positive experiences at her concerts. Could add new fans in the process. And it would not cost as much as a live video, which I have read here that Hayley finally paid her part off of Live in NZ in like 2009...4-5 years after the recording. Don't get me wrong! I would love a new live video recording, but I have a feeling they are weary about it. Glad we have super-duper fans recording everything! And bootlegs do exists! 