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Post by Libby on Oct 3, 2015 5:45:17 GMT
Yup, that's it. Many times I've got the scoop om HWI and Hayleyonline. Just like you Libby. We hang on her every word. Sometimes I wonder does she deserve it. Then I listen to her music, watch one of her videos or listen to an album and think, yes, that is awesome. She is the finest singer I ever heard and deserves all that we do for her. As someone said recently, she touches my soul. Martin D Yes, that's what drives my obsession. I keep thinking how I'm frustrated at a lack of new music, and I remind myself she's been working on her album. But that's the very thing that makes me impatient. I begin to wonder if her record company will even allow her to release it (Kelly Sweet had a tough time releasing her 2nd album, and she's mostly only popular in Japan. I didn't even like what she put out, after all). This makes me think, will she even be relevant anymore? But then I remember Madison. I remember my first live Hayley song, Amalia. IDAD. Bridge OTW. Over the Rainbow, which I normally don't really like. YRU. You get the idea.  |
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Post by Jeff on Oct 3, 2015 11:22:49 GMT
Clue or no, I'm starting to get desperate and even a little annoyed. I'm starting to feel like Larry does sometimes. LOL Or Sally May, the lady who complained about Hayley not doing anything since the last time she checked the forum, before Hushabye.  She's been on again recently, wondering again, and honestly, I wish Hayley would say something so I had something to tell her other than the little clues Hayley's given, and the Jeff Franzel website, etc. You do realize her last studio tweet before her Duet one was from April 16th!! I guess the puppy break one counts, too. But that was in... May. I keep thinking, of course, there's going to be an album, so Hayley will announce soon. But day after day after day, nothing, nothing, and more nothing. Her tweets are too few and far between, with very little information. I rejoice at each new tweet; it's great seeing what she's up to, but at the same time I get frustrated at the continual lack of music information. The Duet tweet was indeed encouraging, but still, we're again back to waiting and waiting and waiting. I don't see how the album can possibly be out this year, at this rate. I'm giving up on a 2015 album. The pessimistic side of me wonders if there really will ever be an album, though my optimistic side (which is usually the dominant side) keeps reminding myself of the things I said to reassure the complaining lady. But at the back of my mind, I'm still worrying about it, and am complaining a little myself. Well Libby my theory is that Hayley is preparing us for the time when her career takes a back seat when she starts a family (as her friend Katherine has just done) since I can't see her taking Junior on tour. As you know some of us are sampling other singers to soothe our frustration and impatience but of course it's not the same as Hayley. It's a bit like taking a ride in a Volkswagen (how topical !) when you've been used to a Rolls-Royce ! But maybe any ride is better than none at all or just sitting at home and worrying if you see what I mean ?  |
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Post by Jillian on Oct 4, 2015 0:09:30 GMT
I have to agree it's a bit frustrating to get on Twitter and see how active some Classical Crossover singers are (such as Rydian, G4, Jonathan Ansell etc) who don't even have record deals.
Also re the family thing -- I would have thought the more likely thing to do would be to get the next album and touring out of the way first -- not that Hayley has done intensive touring for many years now - rather than have a multi-year hiatus leading into it. I know this is probably none of my business, but I'm also a teeny bit surprised that Hayley is able to financially go this long without doing concerts and appearances. Hushabye didn't sell that great and I would wonder if Hayley didn't get any royalties from that above the advance she would have got.
Something will happen eventually I'm sure though. Even if I've sort of lost the energy to keep speculating in a void of information. But it's not like Hayley's career has reached the end of its lifespan (an unavoidable reality for some artists). She will always be in demand in New Zealand, so it's not as if things have reached their end. There probably are opportunities for Hayley if she wanted to take them. Perhaps her heart isn't in show business anymore?
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Post by Libby on Oct 4, 2015 5:02:17 GMT
I have to agree it's a bit frustrating to get on Twitter and see how active some Classical Crossover singers are (such as Rydian, G4, Jonathan Ansell etc) who don't even have record deals. Also re the family thing -- I would have thought the more likely thing to do would be to get the next album and touring out of the way first -- not that Hayley has done intensive touring for many years now - rather than have a multi-year hiatus leading into it. I know this is probably none of my business, but I'm also a teeny bit surprised that Hayley is able to financially go this long without doing concerts and appearances. Hushabye didn't sell that great and I would wonder if Hayley didn't get any royalties from that above the advance she would have got. Something will happen eventually I'm sure though. Even if I've sort of lost the energy to keep speculating in a void of information. But it's not like Hayley's career has reached the end of its lifespan (an unavoidable reality for some artists). She will always be in demand in New Zealand, so it's not as if things have reached their end. There probably are opportunities for Hayley if she wanted to take them. Perhaps her heart isn't in show business anymore? Yes, and I'm pretty sure she is "getting the album out of the way first"; obviously, she is making an album, it's just dragging out a long time... Except, this is prolonging things. Her heart not in show business? Her heart is in music, in singing and performing. She's been in Hollywood/LA & New York a few times within the last year or so. No show business, hmm? Well, despite all my worrying above, I'm back to my senses and trying to bring some of you back to yours. LOL Though as I say, it's understandable to start wondering if we should write her off. However, since we know she is/has been making an album, there's no reason to write her off anytime too soon. Didn't someone just point out the fact that despite Katherine's recent addition to her family, she's still booked to sing at the RAH for the Queen, of all things? I suppose it's easier for Katherine to get to do such things these days, but still, it just shows that Hayley could still have a singing career during her first year as a mother, too. You know, her frequency of public appearances and concerts already have been such that she could have started having kids during all this time, if she'd wanted to... except for the small fact that she's been busy working on an album. The point is, though, that a music career is still possible while doing a 2 or 3 concerts spread throughout the year. So, don't write her off forever when she has kids. I honestly believe she'll be back. I don't think she's anywhere near done yet. Lots of female singers have kids and still have singing careers, don't they? I do have one theory as to why things are taking a while. It may be the same reason Paradiso took longer than expected (the original projected release was Oct. 2010). I shouldn't say anything beyond that, since it may not be the actual reason, but if you can, just think of one little change that occurred in late 2010 that may have had something to do with it. |
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Post by Simba on Oct 4, 2015 9:19:02 GMT
Exactly and infact great mothers at that, if Hayley's even the slightest bit serious about her music I don't think that would be any hindrance to her career. I see this as a new beginning for Hayley, and this will be definitely be a watershed in Hayley's career. For whatever reasons we have to wait this long, I'm sure the surprise is all worth it. Ofcourse she could be a little more interesting/exciting in setting up the suspense, but Hayley, hmm never disappoints....but a hype would do better for her and put a lot more people on track...
4 years since Paradiso, and an awful 7 years since 'her' album, sad to see such long pauses in her career, but I'm sure she's fully aware of that, more pressure of giving out the best of the best. I really hope to hear a change in label from her, the first album from that would always be promoted better, from quality of music videos to radio play and TV appearances...and that might be just what you need after a hiatus as such....
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Post by Jeff on Oct 4, 2015 14:35:46 GMT
I always remember an interview Jill Westenra gave years ago just after Hayley first started when Jill said when off-stage her daughter didn't like drawing attention to herself. I think Hayley is basically a shy person which is more noticeable because other singers are not shy or slow at drawing attention to themselves ! After all Hayley began her career before Twitter started. If we didn't have social media we wouldn't notice her reticence so much.
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Post by Simba on Oct 4, 2015 14:46:21 GMT
Though it'd be interesting to see if Hayley on the tree ended up being in one of her videos/photo shoots....That'd be so classy....and original
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Post by martindn on Oct 4, 2015 18:06:54 GMT
I don't think you can blame social media for her lack of concerts and public appearances recently. You might be able to blame her being busy working on a new album, but to my mind after so much time that one is wearing a bit thin too. Hayley is just taking a break I'm sure. She had 10 years of hard work and hectic schedules, that is maybe enough. And maybe she is thinking of starting a family, it just hasn't happened yet.
I felt at the time of the Union Concert that she was doing it as a sort of present to her fans, to thank us for our support. Perhaps because she knew she would be taking a break.
And the financial one I don't buy either. We don't know anything about Hayley's earnings really, and we know even less about Arnaud's wealth or earnings. My guess is they are comfortable, and Hayley doesn't need to work as hard as she has in the past.
The fact that she uses twitter and instagram to keep in touch with us is I think encouraging. It means she still values her fans.
Martin D
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Post by frenchie on Oct 5, 2015 3:12:22 GMT
Since everyone is sharing their frustrations about this album, I would add my vote to the pot. I am not like you, Libby and Martin, checking on twitter daily, but I do agree a little post of where we are would be great! I do well enough when artists keep the fans generally posted, such as another 6 months we hope cause then I know how long I have to wait. Not knowing where we are in the process or how much longer, leaves me a little antsy. I don't think we will make the by the end of the year prospect that we were last given. Ok. I guess something big must have come through to put a hold on things. I guess we have to wait and see. As for Hayley not touring, I think there is only so much you can tour behind the same songs within a short period before it becomes a hindrance. I think Hayley has reached that in the UK unfortunately. I think she can tour I little more in the USA or Europe though. But that's just me. I agree with Simba that several successful female singers are working moms. Its all in the planning and desire of the artist though. If nothing else, she could at least release albums and do a couple dates in and around London every year. But we shall see... Libby, I don't know the answer off the top of my head about what happened fall of 2010, could you mention a word or in a sentence. Was not a fan yet at that time. Thanks! |
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Post by Libby on Oct 5, 2015 3:21:01 GMT
Martin, it doesn't make sense to think about "starting a family" (sorry, isn't Arnaud her family?) while you are making an album which you might then tour with. That would be way too stressful and unwise, if you ask me.
Being shy or not wanting to draw attention to herself has never stopped her from tweeting in the past. And sorry, when you've just been working on an album, and everyone's hoping for you to announce it anyday, that is not the time to suddenly take a big break from your career. Anyway, as far as we can tell, she just took plenty of time off during the summer. Not a single mention of music was made at all, but plenty of photos of her having fun with family & friends did surface.
Oh, and Alicia, I'll just give you 2 words. Bedlam and Bandana. The only reason I'm concerned is that Bandana doesn't seem to exist anymore. A while back comet posted an article on the OF saying that Brian Lane is working with an artists agency that focuses on Swedish artists now. The link to Bandana goes to his new agency, forgot what it's called. Hayley is not listed there. However, she's been working with Scandinavians lately, so who knows what's going on. It's all a huge mystery. Frankly, I'm a little weary of being in the dark about everything. Hence my hunt for clues, which gets me nowhere.
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Post by martindn on Oct 5, 2015 13:01:09 GMT
Libby, you know what I mean. Hayley might not be taking a complete break, just slowing down from the hectic pace she used to live at. Having some well-deserved time to herself. Perhaps realising that there is more to life than working all the time. I can't blame her for that.
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Post by Libby on Oct 6, 2015 3:28:22 GMT
Libby, you know what I mean. Hayley might not be taking a complete break, just slowing down from the hectic pace she used to live at. Having some well-deserved time to herself. Perhaps realising that there is more to life than working all the time. I can't blame her for that. Martin D Well, apparently I didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have said all that. Can't read your mind, and you were talking about babies, so what was I supposed to think? Anyway, anybody who has been paying attention this summer (and far be it from me to not pay attention) could see she has been doing all sorts of leisurely things all summer. Now, except for her recent "hangin' ", it seems, it's back to work for Hayley (in the studio with a microphone in front of her, no less). Also, Martin, it's kind of hard to have a hectic pace when you don't have a big tour lined up. I mean, sure, maybe she had more concerts going on while she was making albums in the past, so in that sense, sure, she's slowed down a little. But as Alicia mentioned, she has nothing new to even tour with at the moment. So, of course things have slowed down! Once she has the album out, then yes, it'll be back to being a little hectic. |
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Post by martindn on Oct 8, 2015 18:38:42 GMT
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Post by Dave on Oct 8, 2015 19:24:35 GMT
Thanks Martin D, something, at last!
That link says "Hayley westenra or Jackie Evancho" when translated but it's definitely both. Not the new Hayley 2015 album (must change the title!) but a new song, the Domingo duet "Loving Christmas with You". Released worldwide apparently.
I have the full Sony news release and track listing (with artist names) and will shortly start a new thread about it in the "Other Albums" section, thanks for the heads-up!
Cheers, Dave
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Post by Libby on Oct 8, 2015 19:56:58 GMT
Oh look at last a 2015 album is announced that has Hayley singing on it.  So maybe she was in Spain. And that bottle of water WAS a clue...... Martin D Maybe she was in Spain. Yes, it turns out it was a clue that she might have been in Spain; however, it isn't what pointed us to this album, because there's no way we could have guessed something like that. It wasn't a clue to her album. So, it still turns out your guess was as good as mine. It still might not be that the photo was taken in Spain; October 30th is only 3 weeks away, after all, and I find it hard to believe that she would still even now be working on the song. It's far more likely that this is the duet Hayley informed us about via the Sept. 11th twitter photo... not Deborah Barkley. |
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She's been on again recently, wondering again, and honestly, I wish Hayley would say something so I had something to tell her other than the little clues Hayley's given, and the Jeff Franzel website, etc. You do realize her last studio tweet before her Duet one was from April 16th!! I guess the puppy break one counts, too. But that was in... May. 
