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Post by Libby on Dec 24, 2014 23:22:48 GMT
Hello folks!  I don't think there's any doubt that Hayley was working on the new album when she was in Los Angeles earlier this month. I'm getting excited too!  Richard  I'm especially excited after what Bill's report of what Hayley said about it and the possible tour! He told us there, too, but I didn't remember the exact words. I copied and pasted what he said into the OF too.  |
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Post by comet on Feb 17, 2015 12:49:16 GMT
So has this visit to the City of Angels got to do with the long awaited 21st Century Album |
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Post by Richard on Feb 18, 2015 8:10:17 GMT
It could be on the cards, so watch this space! Richard |
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Post by Libby on Feb 19, 2015 4:35:11 GMT
So has this visit to the City of Angels got to do with the long awaited 21st Century Album No telling, but at the very least, it shows her management is sending her to a red carpet event outside of London for once! And in LA instead! That's a change. This event in particular probably has nothing to do with her album; more likely because of Paradiso. Ennio Morricone is an Italian film composer. Otherwise, what does a kiwi have to do with Italia awards? I was thinking the same for Jimmy Kimmel; the name doesn't sound Italian to me, but maybe his mom is Italian. But maybe she is going to be in LA again for album work, and they just decided to include her in a Hollywood event while she was there. After all, before her concerts, the holidays, and her time in NZ, she had been in LA for at least a couple of weeks. Her work there may not have been complete. |
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Post by Jillian on Feb 19, 2015 9:13:39 GMT
Hi all, Well it's good to see that there appears to be action in relation to this desperately awaited album! It's hard to believe that Paradiso was recorded in 2010 -- which is getting on almost 5 years ago now! I'm sure that we'll get an album before 2015 is out. So much of the music industry is about momentum, so I don't think that the next album can reasonably be left any longer than the end of this year. |
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Post by martindn on Feb 19, 2015 11:39:03 GMT
I don't think we know what Hayley is doing in LA. She has obviously been working on her album at one point over there, but whether or not this visit is anything to do with her album we don't really know. On all journeys between NZ and London, one had to break the journey somewhere and LA is one of those places. She may not even still be there, just happened to drop in for a day or so on her way home. She has worked with Vittorio Grigolo of course, so maybe that was the connection with the Italia bash? I don't think we can conclude that this visit has anything do do with the album, or that it doesn't.
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Post by Dave on Feb 19, 2015 14:32:31 GMT
Hi all, Well it's good to see that there appears to be action in relation to this desperately awaited album! It's hard to believe that Paradiso was recorded in 2010 -- which is getting on almost 5 years ago now! I'm sure that we'll get an album before 2015 is out. So much of the music industry is about momentum, so I don't think that the next album can reasonably be left any longer than the end of this year. Hayley may have been getting tips from Kate Bush, who left it 3 to 4 years between albums and then 12 years between The Red Shoes and Aerial!  Hopefully the former rather than the latter, though! Cheers, Dave |
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Post by comet on Feb 19, 2015 16:29:03 GMT
For some of us it is a matter of adding the years between albums to our age and hoping it comes to a number less than average life expectancy and wondering if we will still be around. Anyway, just got a Joni Mitchell boxed / book set, and having seen Elaine Paige on her farewell tour I have started digging out vinyl Lps that were never re released as CDs such as her lovely album Sitting Pretty. She was 50 years performing on stage, Tempus Fugit really quick.. |
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Post by martindn on Feb 19, 2015 22:09:47 GMT
For some of us it is a matter of adding the years between albums to our age and hoping it comes to a number less than average life expectancy and wondering if we will still be around. Anyway, just got a Joni Mitchell boxed / book set, She was 50 years performing on stage . Were the audience still there at the end?? Martin D |
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Post by Libby on Feb 20, 2015 5:29:21 GMT
I don't think we know what Hayley is doing in LA. She has obviously been working on her album at one point over there, but whether or not this visit is anything to do with her album we don't really know. On all journeys between NZ and London, one had to break the journey somewhere and LA is one of those places. She may not even still be there, just happened to drop in for a day or so on her way home. She has worked with Vittorio Grigolo of course, so maybe that was the connection with the Italia bash? I don't think we can conclude that this visit has anything do do with the album, or that it doesn't. Martin D You don't think we know what Hayley's doing in LA, Martin? What a concept! Who is claiming to know? Nobody that I can see, everything is speculation. Speculation is nothing new here. Some days, if we don't speculate, then we don't talk about much of anything, do we? At the moment there's nothing to do BUT speculate. Yes, Vittorio is someone she's worked with before, but I don't see why she'd be there JUST because of him. I still stand by my Paradiso theory. I may not be privy to Hayley's day-to-day schedule, or be in the know on why she does what she does, but I think I made a very educated guess, if I do say so myself. The idea that Hayley just decided to drop in on a random Hollywood event simply because LA is a stop-over from NZ to London is preposterous. Based on my knowledge of Hayley, I feel pretty comfortable in saying that I CAN conclude that the Italia event had nothing to do with her album. However, obviously I CAN'T conclude one way or the other is whether she has other business in LA besides that event. However, I will say that I have a feeling that her appearance at a red carpet event in the US could be for the mere fact that maybe, just maybe, Hayley's management is thinking of trying to promote her in the US a bit more because of her new album. After all, she did tell us that with the new album, some US concerts might possibly be in the works. I also have had the feeling, especially since the Union Chapel concert, that her new album is more likely to be appealing to the US than her previous albums. So don't count out the US just yet, or anybody be so surprised that she should work anywhere other than London.  |
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Post by martindn on Feb 20, 2015 11:59:26 GMT
I'm not surprised Libby, nothing Hayley does surprises me any more. And yes, you could be right about Paradiso. It is all speculation as you say. But its true that LA is a very convenient place for Hayley to visit if she is travelling home to London. And she has said she is travelling here, there and everywhere in connection with the album. Why not LA, or New York, or anywhere else. Nashville anyone?
All this I regard as encouraging. Hayley is obviously putting a lot into the album, and collaborating with lots of people to make is as good as she can. I'm really looking forward to it, knowing that. And yes, she could succeed in America, although not being American seems to be a handicap, and examples like KJ who tried hard and failed I'm sure have been noted. Hayley needs to demonstrate that she has something that nobody from the US does.... just as The Beatles did many years ago. Of course America immediately tried to copy the Beatles (The Monkees anyone), and probably would do with Hayley if she came up with something original and was successful. It human nature I think, I remember all those British covers of A,erican hit records back in the 1950s and 60s. One good thing about having American involvement in making the album is it might be seen as partly an American product. That will do Hayley no harm.
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Post by Jillian on Feb 21, 2015 0:04:27 GMT
I don't think we know what Hayley is doing in LA. She has obviously been working on her album at one point over there, but whether or not this visit is anything to do with her album we don't really know. On all journeys between NZ and London, one had to break the journey somewhere and LA is one of those places. She may not even still be there, just happened to drop in for a day or so on her way home. She has worked with Vittorio Grigolo of course, so maybe that was the connection with the Italia bash? I don't think we can conclude that this visit has anything do do with the album, or that it doesn't. Martin D The idea that Hayley just decided to drop in on a random Hollywood event simply because LA is a stop-over from NZ to London is preposterous. I agree Libby. Hayley never makes any public appearances unless they are linked to business -- even her annual movie premiere appearance would probably be arranged by her management to give her some media and get some photos taken. I think that there must be something going on here. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of collaboration with Vittorio in the works. Otherwise, Hayley would have just gone straight back home to London. |
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Post by Libby on Feb 21, 2015 4:03:51 GMT
Yeah, maybe. Maybe she'll include a duet with him on her album. Or vice versa? But I still think Paradiso is a good reason in itself for the Italia people to be interested in her. She did another Italian event not that long ago.. a year or 2? The Love from Portofino premiere, with Andrea Bocelli. Martin, I like the Nashville idea okay, too. I think I've brought up my theories on why KJ could not succeed in the US. It's not just because she's not American. There are lots of artists that are popular in the US who aren't American... of course most of the ones I'm thinking of are in pop, rock, or country, so it's not very hard for non-Americans in popular genres to succeed. In Katherine's genre, it is. Sarah Brightman was successful because firstly, she was already well-known for her broadway roles. But also, back then, she brought something new and fresh. The classical/opera she offered was not just the stale, sung-to-death arias. She made everything unique and poppy, and her being a diva probably helped a lot. Katherine Jenkins is nowhere near the show-woman that Sarah is. Her voice is not unique. Her voice always sounds a little dull to me. She did become a tiny bit famous with the DWTS fans for a while, but nobody's mentioned her since. One thing that Hayley has going for her (as far as I know) that KJ doesn't is her style and voice are much less operatic, and she sings and writes songs that are more on the pop side. Sure, KJ may have tried singing pop songs, but... let me guess, she uses a yawning opera voice to do so. Of course Hayley has never tried to sound truly operatic even in operatic arias, so she's already ahead of the game by not sounding truly opera. Sarah Brightman also had the sense to sing pop without singing it like an opera song. And THAT, friends, is the real difference! Jackie Evancho can get away with it a bit because she was more of a phenomenon being so young, and of course, an American talent show star. You can't go by KJ's level of success in the US; Hayley and KJ are really not very similar at all. Their genre and record label may lead one to believe they are, but they really are not. I still remember the wonderful comments some of the staff at the Orpheum theatre, one man in particular, on what a great performance Hayley gave that night. They were ones that many would assume only like R & B or rap, so I was even more pleased to hear their high praise because of this. It shows Hayley can reach people from all walks of life with not only her voice, but her wide variety of music, that can appeal to just about anyone who really appreciates music for what it is (as opposed to how cute/hot or controversial, etc. a singer is). |
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Post by susieverity on Feb 22, 2015 20:57:26 GMT
You are definitely right Libby, the reason KJ was not successful was not because she is not american, but she does not sing the right material to make people buy the albums, it's too boring and safe and has been done by loads of other people before and she does not write her own songs which is a set back. Think of how much success Josh Groban has, he always has a perfect mix of covers and original songs on his albums and he really understands CC, like Sarah Brightman did, he can do a more pop style and a more classical style and always includes songs that people know and that is they key to his success and that is what I hope for Hayley because she could easily do somthing similar, a few covers and her own songs and that is how to make people interested and buy the album and there is no reason that it would not appeal to people in the US and UK.
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Post by Libby on Feb 22, 2015 23:34:51 GMT
Yeah, there were actually very few covers on Josh Groban's Illumination album; almost all were songs Josh wrote. The only cover I can think of is actually the last song, Straight to You (which I would never bother listening to by the original, though I know Hayley likes him... Nick Cave).
I kind of do want some covers... I would be a bit surprised if there weren't any at all. As much as I'd love Hayley to do lots of songwriting (and it seems she's at least trying to for this album), there are always songs people know that they want to hear Hayley do... Or ones she's performed live but never recorded. I.e., the usual I Know You By Heart, You Raise Me Up, and BOTW. I know she has recorded it, but it really ought to be included on a main release of an album, not just a Japanese one. People everywhere like that song. However, I would hope if she does include it on US/UK versions, improve the arrangement a bit; the beginning is much too soft, since it's on a lullaby album.
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