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Post by Libby on May 6, 2013 6:21:34 GMT
My hope is that Hushabye will raise Hayley's profile enough to make a self penned album viable and I'm hoping that that is Decca's view too. Best wishes Grant That's what I'm trying to reassure myself with, but as Irish fan says, I seriously can't handle another 2 years for a real album. And I kind of feel the same way about not having an album that I truly enjoy, except I go back to Treasure for that. Though I do like Paradiso, just not nearly as much as her other albums, due to too similar music. But I'm hoping that, since this album was sprung on her at seemingly the last second, the "real" album she was working on will come maybe next year? Now that I think of it, it's probably better for her for this year to not have an album and a tour, because I have a pretty good feeling that certain "other events" Steve mentioned are very likely coming sooner rather than later. We wouldn't want anything to interfere with that. :wink: I don't trust Decca very much. They rarely promote the absolute best songs on the album, namely the songs Hayley writes. If they were really so trustworthy, they would have balanced things out a little, and gave us a sample of one of the more "adult" songs, as well as a lullaby. Anyway, a record company who turned down the Beatles can hardly be trusted. Just saying. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by Simba on May 6, 2013 8:10:41 GMT
But no point in saying all this, Then why say it at all? Haha, that's nice, I did expect that from atleast one person, because I was sure people would choose to be overly defensive on this case. The point of my posts was very well clear for anyone who has read them fully, and I only said there wasn't any point to sound a little laid back at the claim. Having an idea as to how the general public would receive is good in my opinion, because if the album proves us otherwise it's a bonus (which we're all hoping for)  , if it doesn't then we'd know why. |
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Post by Juliette on May 6, 2013 11:23:07 GMT
Hi Richard, Thank you for the reminder!! I've just listened to 'Twinkle Twinkle' and was humming along thinking "I know this melody, I'm sure I know it!" but not able to remember where it was from lol! As for the album, I have to admit I have mixed feelings. I was quite disapointed when the theme of the album was announced, and wondered why Hayley got involved in such an album, with which I think the doors are pretty closed. In fact, even if people are really interested in the Royal Family, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be interested in the album, because I think that people are either interested in plain gossip or fascinated by the family. But in the latter case, unless the album is recommended by the Duke and Duchess themselves or they write a note on it, I think many people will see the album as certainly linked to the birth - but just as many other things are that they don't necessarily buy - yet quite independent from the Royal Family itself. Besides, such an album might turn out to be a dead end for Hayley as labels come very quickly and Hayley could be very easily labelled as a singer for children by those who don't know her previous albums or even worse, as a cheesy singer - not in term of the production quality of the album, but more because of what people may think of that kind of songs and this, despite their popularity: we like to hear them, but we don't necessarily care for the singer singing them, and I for one would not buy an other album from a singer who I heard singing a lullaby; unless they have an extraordinary voice. Thankfully, that's Hayley's case, so that's a good aspect Finally, I don't really think such an album can broaden Hayley's audience: who is most likely to be interested by an album like that? Parents and Grandparents, but most of all, mothers and grandmothers. When Paradiso came out in NZ, it was promoted as 'the perfect gift for Mother's Day'. So we stay in the same category of listeners. She might just gain a few more mothers in her 'fanbase' but that will be it, I think. BUT, because thankfully, there is a but in that  I read (almost) everybody's posts about the album, positive and negative. And I have to say, while I was pretty pessimistic about it at first, I found some very good arguments in the optimistic posts First, I do agree, those songs will never die and people will always like to hear them. Thus, they may be interested in a new, fresh and updated version of them, especially if they have old similar albums and would like a new one. Secondly, it is true that it's an opportunity not be missed for Hayley. Unfortunately, music is a business and sometimes, artists have to "sell" themselves to be able to survive in the industry. I don't really like the idea of Hayley following an idea from Decca; like everybody else, I'd rather had her following her own musical and artistic path. However, if this has to be Hayley's commercial aspect and the album that allows her afterwards to give full space to her own artistic and musical expression on another album, I much prefer that to a cheesy pop album with a low production. Thirdly, the quality of the album seems to be very good. I really loved the orchestration in 'Twinkle Twinkle' and that's a very important point, I think it's what can make all the difference to an album, especially on an album with that theme. For example, I really liked Katherine Jenkins' album "Sacred Arias" despite finding her voice to be quite ugly (personal taste!) just because the orchestration was really good. And though I do not like her voice, I was tempted to buy her album. Finally, just like everybody else, a lullaby album is definitely not what I was hoping for and for that, it is a bit disapointing. But, then I thought about Céline Dion's similar album "Miracle" that she did in relation to her project with Anne Geddes a few years ago. I remember that, when it was released, I actually really liked the album and the whole concept of it. I guess that if Hushabye is well brought about on the market, it can turn out to be something really lovely. So I'm just waiting to see/hear more about it and I'm getting ready to probably be pleasantly surprised... And lastly, Simba, I have to agree with you to then disagree with you. I agree when you say that it's a shame when Hayley cuts words when she sings because she whispers them or when she doesn't sing to her full capacity. I've noticed that as well in some of her perfomances. However, in 'Twinkle Twinkle', I thought this technique was perfectly adapted to the genre of the song and felt that it was as if Hayley was singing just for me,in my ear. And it was very pleasant... Juliette  |
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Post by Simba on May 6, 2013 12:45:38 GMT
That's true Julliette, it's just that she's doing that for songs she sang properly back then, so I thought I had to mention it. But it's more suited to Twinkle Twinkle based on its context |
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Post by Dave on May 6, 2013 13:48:35 GMT
Rushing to judgement of an album based on one or two tracks is a risky business - so I'm not going to do it. Umm, well, I'm sorry, but when you give out a song and a quarter of a song that are both baby lullaby songs, you cannot expect people to rush to judgment. You can't blame people for that when that's all they're given. The people who don't follow Hayley as closely and maybe haven't received the e-mail, won't necessarily know about the other better songs yet, so those people are going to, not surprisingly, jump to conclusions. Hi Libby, Well of course everyone can do what they like, I'm just saying that *I'm* not going to judge the album until I've heard all of it, or at least until I've seen the full track listing and heard all the samples. Just not yet. The overall album theme is another matter altogether though, we do know what that is and like several others, I have reservations, some or all of which I hope will be dispelled when I've heard more of the album. I think this album is not geared towards her regular fans at all. Oh I think we agree on that, in fact I said much the same thing two posts above yours! Decca have a plan and we can but hope that it's a good one and will help Hayley's career. If it sells well, I think it will improve the chances of getting the album that many were hoping for, next time round. Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Martin on May 6, 2013 14:13:58 GMT
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Post by Dave on May 6, 2013 14:22:09 GMT
Hi Martin, We nearly crossed wires, there!  There are some interesting differences between the two stories too, which could be significant! Probably all based on the same press release, though. Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Martin on May 6, 2013 14:27:52 GMT
Assuming that "Sleep On" becomes the signature tune for the album (and the main Decca promotional track) then why release "Twinkle Twinkle"?  Personally, I would have timed the album release as close as possible to the due date of Kate's baby i.e. mid July, in order to maximise publicity. Unless of course, Decca have inside information that the baby is going to be born three weeks early!!  Martin PS I am now beginning to believe that this project is potentially a Decca promotional masterstroke. Let's hope that the goods are equally masterful. |
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Post by Dave on May 6, 2013 15:08:54 GMT
Hi Martin and everyone, I'm sure all will become clear in the fullness of time! Perhaps! Meanwhile, I've updated our website and Facebook pages with this exciting news, it's good to be getting a bit more meat on the bone as the days go by. Who knows, if it's a good 'un, it might be a single too? Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Richard on May 6, 2013 15:46:44 GMT
Hello Dave!  If the album is released on iTunes, Hayley might get her first entry in the Official Classical Singles Chart!  Richard  |
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Post by Richard on May 6, 2013 16:24:10 GMT
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Post by gillette on May 6, 2013 16:36:03 GMT
Hi all -
It is nice to read the good positive thoughts about the new album that are beginning to show up now. Some of them are real excitement-builders. Things are looking up!
BobS
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Post by susieverity on May 6, 2013 17:02:59 GMT
This is exciting news and Martin I agree with you that this could be a genius plan from Decca.
And 'barking lizards'? Bit of a strange translation lol.
The more I listen to Twinkle Twinkle the more I like it, I've had it in my head all day and I think as someone (maybe Dave) said a few posts ago only Hayley could do this kind of music and make it sound so good. I'm not worried that I won't like the album, sounds like there will be some amazing music on it. Also it said on the email that it will have more accoustic type arrangements with guitar/piano which I think will showcase Hayley's voice the best and will be a good change from Paradiso. Do you think Hayley might accompany herself on guitar or piano on performances? I'd love to see that on TV.
Susie
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Post by grant on May 6, 2013 17:05:46 GMT
Barking lizards? 
Richard And what, pray, is a Royal Weilianwangzi???  |
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