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Post by Bamafan on May 5, 2013 1:44:35 GMT
Maybe it'd be a special release... For Asia, specially Taiwan/China.  Since this probably wouldn't be as marketable there, and that's also where she has a huge fan base, they would want to cash in.  She did do HSJS 2 and Winter Magic the same year. -Taylor i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by Libby on May 5, 2013 4:31:15 GMT
I have to admit that an album of lullabies is most definitely not what I was hoping for, nor what I want from Hayley. I think I'll probably be skipping this one. Well, I don't think I'll skip it, but I'm beginning to re-think taking a trip just to buy it in store. I admit I'd feel a little funny buying an album called Hushabye, and which actually has some baby songs on it. No matter how beautifully she sings the lullabies, I won't be playing them much myself. And definitely not with my sister around. She is not going to be impressed at all. If she barely even likes a gorgeous album like Paradiso, she is not going to like this one much, either.  I was trying to stay positive before about how the album might raise her profile in the UK, and I hope it does... but I am getting very tired of Decca's constant delay of what we all really want: a true Hayley album, with lots of new material from her. Decca is really starting to aggravate me. Never mind whether the songs sound pretty; they will. But there is a huge difference between pretty lullabies and gorgeous, self-penned songs that we know Hayley is capable of writing. What little we've heard of her own songs is enough to convince me that anything else she writes will be at least as wonderful as those previous ones. First, a Greates hits album. Then it was Christmas - and then that wasn't half of what anyone hopes for in a Christmas album - then, an album full of Italian movie music, which was gorgeous, yes, but still not quite what I was hoping for. And now a lullaby album? I'm starting to get a little frustrated here. I know Hayley is capable of becoming a wonderful singer/songwriter, and I just feel like Decca is holding her back. When are they going to allow her to just be Hayley, for goodness' sake? I mean, even for Treasure, she said that she didn't tell them what she was doing till after she recorded it, if I remember right. I think she needs to do that again, because the result was what I can probably say is my favorite album of hers. |
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Post by Ross on May 5, 2013 4:41:02 GMT
For those not familiar with the food spread Marmite, Hayley means it is something you either love or hate - there is no inbetween! Well I love Marmite lol so I have pre-ordered the CD through UK Amazon as I don't know if it will be released in NZ. |
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Post by Jillian on May 5, 2013 6:02:05 GMT
No matter how beautifully she sings the lullabies, I won't be playing them much myself. And definitely not with my sister around. She is not going to be impressed at all. LOL Your sister sounds a lot like my sister, Libby! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif Siblings don't hold back, do they? After years of living at college and with house mates, I've learnt that this is why man invented good quality head phones  Saved me from lots of teasing - particularly when I want to do things like listen to Josh Groban's christmas album in April or (embarrasingly) things like the sound track to Sound of Music. ha ha ha ha ha  |
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Post by Richard on May 5, 2013 7:46:57 GMT
Hello folks! Looking at the comments on YouTube, I would say they're about two to one in favour of the album at the moment. That must be rather disappointing for Hayley and her fans, but we still don't know the full tracklisting. Richard  |
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Post by Richard on May 5, 2013 8:17:28 GMT
A tweet from Paul Mealor, who also wrote a piece for William and Catherine's wedding: Richard |
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Post by Simba on May 5, 2013 10:31:35 GMT
Combined with the Facebook comments, I think it's just a 1:1 ratio. Considering the fact that people would post even if they just like it, and post only if they dislike a lot, I could guess a lot of people are let down by the album, and the song. Comments like "I never thought I'd dislike a Hayley song, but I don't like Twinkle Twinkle" is making me very very upset. Martin: I think that's not what I'm talking about. Because I feel Hayley's previous way of singing is the most simplest form of singing. And no, that's not a negative comment, rather a grand compliment, where "simple" is personified to the quality of an instrument. eg. Pokarekare ana. There are so many songs where I spent more than 5 mins or gone without noticing hayley's voice among a string section. (I'm glad Ennio morricone made her sing such bits in Da quel) Those are the simplest notes you can get, straight legato notes with mild vibrato. Hayley 'din't' sing this song in a simple manner, which is why I used the term 'weak'. Loud at places, whispered or swallowed some words....Easily made this the first hayley song that I don't care for. Believe me ALL Hayley songs have been nothing less than 'awesome' for me, and anything she sings have always been magic to my ears. I have been one of the most biased hayley fans thinking hayley's version of anything is better than everything else, because I still believe it is, and have known to argue with people who don't think so even here at times. But to say no one can do what Hayley did on this song, I will not accept that. Only because all this while people have been singing it in a "Childish" tone. If any other good singer took up the song seriously and sung it, I'm sure we'd have so many versions much better than what hayley just did. It just seemed like a warm up thing for her, no her warm ups are top quality I just remembered. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWgHMs-Yj9oThis random simple Twinkle Twinkle on the net sounds SO much better, even though the girl doesn't have a great voice as hayley's nor is the music as superior as this one. Sad to say such is that quality of Hayley's Twinkle Twinkle. Hope hayley starts singing certain songs in a "simple" manner once again. And Please don't take me in the wrong way, I'm only giving my very honest opinion while hoping for the best because us fans are always trying to support her and give positive feedback sometimes even convincing our true feelings about something. I only dared to post it so we get an idea of how people would receive this. Thank you. |
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Post by Jillian on May 5, 2013 10:47:52 GMT
Hi Simba, I had a listen to the version of Twinkle Twinkle - I wondering whether one of the reasons you also like it more is also because it's a more upbeat version sung in more full and projected voice, which is more designed to entertain kids -- not send them to sleep. Sam Moran (who I've seen do adult songs in concert with Mirusia) - when he was part of the Wiggles does a good version too. But again, that's on the Wiggles TV show and it's in full voice and designed to entertain, not lullaby. It's actually had 39 million hits on YouTube believe it or not! Also have a look at this rather interesting version by Fredrika Stahl (particularly from 1:50 in) (live): www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsMiEvPZaLM Folk singer Jewel has also done a version of Twinkle Twinkle which has an upbeat country flavour to it. Just type 'Jewel Twinkle Twinkle' into YouTube.  |
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Post by Richard on May 5, 2013 12:21:31 GMT
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Post by Simba on May 5, 2013 12:28:51 GMT
Jillian, you don't quite get what I'm saying, it's not the upbeat music at all. Which is why a better comparison would be Lullaby of Nemunoki like I previously mentioned, the flow in her voice is what makes people go to sleep. That, let me lie, Prayer (Let your arms enfold us) are some of the most calming of hayley's songs.
As versatile as Hayley is even her voice doesn't sound best when attempting things like this, Maybe the full voice thing that you said can partly explain this, but yes, whispering words or a song in a husky manner just makes her sound weak because, I think it requires a different vocal timbre for that.
Lullaby of Nemunoki can put me to sleep, or any of hayley's calming songs, and have been the best medicine to stress. I had a friend who's had major nervous disorders that I introduced him to hayley and gave him a good selection of Hayley's songs and I could literally see how much it changed his life.
I'm kissing you is a song where she sings in a husky gentle manner, I think it's conveyed perfectly and the music and voice seamlessly match. This song to me just isn't success. Some words are really unpleasant to hear to put it plain.
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Post by Dave on May 5, 2013 12:59:13 GMT
Well Simba, it sounds fine to me, given the song it is, and a whole lot better than some of the other attempts I've heard on Youtube! Hayley would have been criticised by many if she'd slavishly followed the standard version like the 'cartoon' version you posted, and as Jillian said it's not meant to have a percussive beat like that one has from one minute in, that soon started to irritate me. That version is also sung in a bland sort of way IMO, something Hayley is often criticised for in certain circles so I'm glad she didn't do that. If anything is occasionally over-elaborate, it is Hayley's backing music, but at least for me, it's calming. I think most of us will grow to like Hayley's "whispered" version and I am already liking it better than the other examples posted in this thread, though at first, I didn't. Perhaps we should wait until we've heard the complete album or at least have seen all the track details and have heard samples from them. We don't know Decca's plans either, which in this case will be more important than usual and will IMO make or break the album, so hopefully things will become clearer on that in the next week or two. Rushing to judgement of an album based on one or two tracks is a risky business - so I'm not going to do it. Dave |
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Post by Bamafan on May 5, 2013 13:16:41 GMT
I actually kind of like the way Hayley sings it. Maybe it's not my top, but it is magical, nonetheless. It makes me imagine her sitting by an open window, looking at the stars, and singing softly to herself, so as to not wake anyone up. -Taylor i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by grant on May 5, 2013 14:59:54 GMT
It makes me imagine her sitting by an open window, looking at the stars, and singing softly to herself, so as to not wake anyone up. Yep! Can just imagine that |
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Post by martindn on May 5, 2013 15:19:10 GMT
Well, I think Hayley is to be commended for trying something different. And I too prefer her version to the others that have been mentioned. The fact that it isn't making the most of her wonderful voice for me isn't the point. What matters is whether I enjoy listening to it, and I do.
And yes, Simba you are right, we all need to be honest about what we think if we are to help Hayley.
I guess from her "Marmite" tweet that Hayley knew some of us wouldn't much like it. But I don't blame her for doing it nonetheless. It is a good opportunity for her to reach a wider audience, and I feel she was right to take it. And I think it was worth singing "Twinkle" like that too.
The choice of that song for the "teaser" may or may not have been wise. It is something different from Hayley, and also something controversial it seems. Being different might attract people who wouldn't normally buy her music. Who knows, it might appeal to a wider audience than something that can be given the "opera singer" tag would.
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Post by susieverity on May 5, 2013 15:53:34 GMT
Hi everyone,
Wow, I've missed so much stuff. I have just got back from Brownie Camp. When I first saw Lullaby/ies as the title I did think it had something to do with the royal baby so am not surprised that this is what the album is and I agree with Libby that it is a bit disappointing because I did want something with more original material. I listened to Twinkel and I love the arrangement and I didn't know it had all the extra verses, makes it more interesting and I can't wait to hear the other tracks. I'm sure I'll love this album and if it raises Hayley's profile that can only be a good thing.
Susie
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Since this probably wouldn't be as marketable there, and that's also where she has a huge fan base, they would want to cash in. 
