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Post by postscript on Feb 1, 2012 18:19:55 GMT
Haha, this sounds a bit like the All Black wedding "rumor".  But they're a bit off on Arnaud's age, although the age they say is actually Hayley's age, so they must've mixed it up.  I do wonder how the London news got a hold of her family friend though...  NZ paparazzi?  The 'family friend' might be in the UK and might be just a friend presuming, for a true friend would not have said anything! On the other hand the friend may not exist, the whole thing is not an unusual newspaper ploy to knee-jerk a reaction, which is why we should stay mum, we could be being monitored!. Peter S. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 1, 2012 18:44:50 GMT
The newspapers are not big on absolute truthfulness. 'A family friend' could mean anything from 'might say hello in the street, maybe' to 'close friend of a family member'. Or, on a particularly poor day, 'someone we invented for the sake of the article'...
Newspapers tend to have a somewhat... informal... relationship with facts...
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Post by martindn on Feb 1, 2012 22:54:21 GMT
Bur it was a good enough friend, according to the article, for Hayley and Arnaud to stay with for a couple of days.
But, as I think Mark Twain said, "If you don't read newspapers you will be uninformed. If you do read then you will be misinformed".
Oh, and if the "family friend" was in the UK, it must have happened in November, since she hasn't had "a couple of days" in the UK since then.
Martin D
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Post by cloudbusting.heights on Feb 1, 2012 23:48:29 GMT
I must say I am of a similar mindset as many of us here to wait for some form of confirmation from Hayley and Arnaud themselves. I was curious to know what others thought. I've not been on here for a long while (college is unsurprisingly time consuming haha). I wasn't sure if I'd missed out on some momentous news!
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 2, 2012 1:03:40 GMT
I'm sure Hayley would realise that her fans will be happy for her if she does get engaged. She's a very private person, yes, but she's also not someone who would get engaged unless she really, really, meant it, IMO. And if she was THAT certain, why hide it?
For some artists it can be awkward, as their careers somewhat depend on their image of being single or at least not permanently attached, but I'm not sure that's really an issue for Hayley. She's never sold herself on the strength of her physical appeal, only the appeal of her amazing voice.
Unless she has yet to tell her family (Chance of which is zero, IMO), she has no real reason at all not to tell her fans.
Thus, logic says if we have not heard it from Hayley, it is not true.
Not that I'd be surprised if she DOES get engaged soon, it must be said...
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Post by Libby on Feb 2, 2012 6:07:42 GMT
Whether Hayley has come out with the news yet or not, I tend to think it is true. They've known each other over 3 years, so it wouldn't be surprising. Plus, if it wasn't true, Mr. Westenra would probably just say no! If it's not true, then why not quell the rumor once and for all?
The reason for her to "hide" it, as you say, is maybe that, even though she may not mind us knowing about it, she may not be ready for all the media to be hounding her & Arnaud about it. Remember, she "hid" Arnaud's identity for several months before the NZ media caught onto it. But even when they first leaked it, it was still a while before she herself talked more about who he was. So, the fact that she hasn't told the world about it yet doesn't make it untrue, it just means they're probably not ready to go public about it.
For one thing, not everyone gets married the minute they get engaged. Some couples stay engaged for years! The media will want to know all the wedding plan details, but the wedding itself might not be for a while. They may not have even set a date yet! Oh, another reason is that she's just been home having some time off. She hasn't been interviewed in a while, so it's not as if she's had much chance to tell anybody, even if she wanted to.
I don't think she would be unhappy with us "knowing" about it, though. She knows most of us (if not all) would have nothing but well wishes for her, and of course have a natural interest only because we like and admire her so much.
Anyway, having "rumors" like this come out before you're ready seem to be an inevitable part of being famous. Even if it's not that famous (except in New Zealand).
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Post by martindn on Feb 2, 2012 20:23:13 GMT
For some artists it can be awkward, as their careers somewhat depend on their image of being single or at least not permanently attached, but I'm not sure that's really an issue for Hayley. That is so 1960's. Back in those days so-called "hearthrob" pop artists, usually male, used to hide their relatioships for fear their fans would lose interest if they were seen as "taken". But their target audience was teenaged girls for the most part. I am certain that doesn't apply to Hayley. Most of (perhaps all of) her fans I'm sure only want to see her happy. Oh, and I agree with your post too Libby. And don't you think it might be Arnaud who is not keen on media attention. I get the impression he's a pretty private person too. Perhaps even more private than Hayley. If they want to be private, let them is my opinion. They are both lovely people, and all of this makes no difference to the facts - that Hayley is a fabulous singer and that Arnaud is a talented sound engineer. I enjoy hearing Hayley sing, and I know that if Arnaud is her engineer, he will do a good job - he is doing it for love much more than money. We should let them be private if that is their wish. And much as I wish them well, I respect their right to privacy more. Martin D |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Feb 3, 2012 0:11:19 GMT
I vote she's engaged. If we took a poll I'm pretty sure that would be the majority choice.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 3, 2012 1:18:14 GMT
For some artists it can be awkward, as their careers somewhat depend on their image of being single or at least not permanently attached, but I'm not sure that's really an issue for Hayley. That is so 1960's. Back in those days so-called "hearthrob" pop artists, usually male, used to hide their relatioships for fear their fans would lose interest if they were seen as "taken". But their target audience was teenaged girls for the most part. I am certain that doesn't apply to Hayley. Most of (perhaps all of) her fans I'm sure only want to see her happy. Not just the 60s, Martin. Almost every year I read about some young artist (Male and female alike) whose management wants them to be single, or at least appear that way. The idea may indeed be very 1960s, but unfortunately it seems to still be all too alive and well. We seem to agree that this would not be the case with Hayley, though. |
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Post by Libby on Feb 3, 2012 7:24:25 GMT
Elliot, I cannot possibly imagine why an artist's management would want them to be single. Isn't that what keeps people talking about them, what keeps them popular? I'm not saying that's the case for Hayley, but don't you think the prospect of this news would keep her in the news, at least in NZ, and somewhat in the UK? If she were to have remained single all this time, wouldn't that be a little boring to some people, and also strange, for a 24-almost-25-year old young woman? It would be very silly for her management to hinder their relationship. It's helped them have a reliable sound engineer for Hayley, for one thing!  |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 3, 2012 13:49:56 GMT
Libby, It always seems really bizarre to me, too, honestly. I can't say I'm certain of the reasons, but mostly it's true for young artists with young fans, so the idea seems to be 'any of you might be the lucky guy/girl/whatever'. It's the only reason I can think of, at least, but why it should be a selling point is beyond me... With Hayley specifically it would never be true for her for two main reasons: firstly that she has never been sold as 'look at this hot girl' and always as 'listen to this amazing voice', and secondly because her main fan base are a lot older than her and therefore far less likely to think they had any chance, anyway (Or even WANT one, given the age gap!). So yes, I agree with you entirely that it would be very foolish of Hayley's management to try to hinder her relationship in any way - and it would be utterly purposeless, which is why I can see no reason whatsoever why they would do so. The last female artist I heard being put on a boyfriend ban was Cher Lloyd (Not a fan, if you're curious, but still). She promptly broke it, being a girl who knows her own mind, and good for her, I say!  Hmmm... OK, one more reason for a possible other half ban: a new artist needing to concentrate all their time and attention on establishing their career might be banned from relationships as unnecessary distractions from their career. Once again, this is completely irrelevant to Hayley 'world's best selling Soprano' Westenra |
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Post by Simba on Feb 3, 2012 13:57:32 GMT
I hope it's true, could be a perfect example of true love! May God bless the two!
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Post by tireman on Feb 3, 2012 18:10:54 GMT
Does anyone know anything about Armaud? Does he work with Hayley? If in fact they are engaged will it affect Hayley's work ethic? Long separations can be problematic in a marriage.
What ever the case may be if the story is true I wish them the best of everything.
Larry
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Post by Libby on Feb 3, 2012 23:28:05 GMT
Does anyone know anything about Armaud? Does he work with Hayley? If in fact they are engaged will it affect Hayley's work ethic? Long separations can be problematic in a marriage. What ever the case may be if the story is true I wish them the best of everything. Everyone except you, apparently. Wow, where have you been? :wink: Did you miss that article about Hayley and Arnaud in that NZ magazine a while back? Check the media section. It was a women's magazine, obviously. :2fun: |
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Post by Jillian on Feb 3, 2012 23:51:05 GMT
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NZ paparazzi? 
