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Post by tireman on Dec 19, 2011 22:13:45 GMT
Me too, I thought that given his operatic voice, it was balanced reasonably well, I had no difficulty hearing Hayley clearly at any point. The only improvement that could have been made for me is on Hayley's final note, I am not a fan of the "up an octave big finish for the sake of it", whoever does it. I think it would have sounded slightly better if Hayley had stayed in her "sweet spot" range for that final note and not gone up an octave, while Rolando did. Would have blended slightly better, I think. Thoroughly enjoyable performance though, by both of them, and one that I am sure I will come back to again and again as time goes by (the entire three song Movies segment, which I still see as a whole). Cheers, Dave But Dave you surely couldn't fault Pavarotti's Nessum Dorma for the up octave at the finish, could you? Larry Larry |
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Post by Dave on Dec 19, 2011 22:32:30 GMT
Hi Larry,
No, it just depends on the song and the singer and I certainly like that one! In those cases when I'm not keen on it, the reasons vary.
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Post by Libby on Dec 20, 2011 4:45:42 GMT
Simba, you always seem to say it just right.  Yeah, basically I was and am very happy that this performance happened because of Rolando's name, but didn't really think their voice blended at all and the volume was perfect at some places, like in the last when they say Good "Night" U hear Hayley's voice stand out stand. But before that the whole bit where they sing, "Tonight I have a feeling, a miracle would....."That is where if one didn't see Hayley singing, it's hard to guess it was a duet. His harsh operatic voice compared to Hayley's pure sweet voice didn't compliment each other. It's a shame because both of them were doing their best and that's the best that could be done in an operatic way, so both of them were Amazing nevertheless. It was funny when I was moving thru the slider through different points of Rolando's singing, every bit is as loud as the other, and everything was like yelled XD...(which is how it should be though lol), and I was like sending this performance to lotsa people, they were like, "Wow Hayley's such a good singer", I wait for a minute, and ask them, how's it? They're like oh, I closed it the moment the guy started singing.....XD  |
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Post by Libby on Dec 20, 2011 4:51:04 GMT
Yes, Rolando was indeed at full volume but that's how he normally sings!  Duets aren't a singing competition and if one singer is louder than the other then so be it. Try tellng the likes of Andrea Bocelli to turn it down!! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifMartin I'm sorry, but I don't think he's quite as loud. When he sang with Hayley back in 2005, he may have drowned her out a little, but it was nowhere near as much as with the Rolando duet. There was never a time when you couldn't hear Hayley at all. He also has a very good low tone, which isn't loud at all. One of the first songs I heard by him he sang in a low, almost rough voice, not really operatic at all. I loved that song, but I never remember what it's called.  |
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Post by Simba on Dec 20, 2011 7:40:18 GMT
Lol Thanks Libby I guess it's a matter of similar wavelength, haha! And Andrea never drowns out Hayley, especially in the most recent Asian Tour they were like perfectly equal, and only Hayley could live up to his voice quality, not even sarah, because that particular song "Canto Della Terra", I've heard both versions, and when they go for that sustained note, you couldn't hear Sarah's whereas with Hayley, a sustained note stopped at any point will have both their voices heard at equal levels, that one thing is enough to show how well their balance is. By now I think I must have the most black marks for going off-topic XD...... |
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Post by Richard on Dec 20, 2011 9:13:02 GMT
Hello Simba and everybody! To get back on topic, this tweet gave me a good laugh this morning: Richard  |
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Post by postscript on Dec 20, 2011 9:46:32 GMT
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Post by Libby on Dec 20, 2011 19:48:05 GMT
That may very well be true, though! :wink:
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Post by martindn on Dec 20, 2011 22:22:54 GMT
But I have to agree I thoroughly enjoyed that performance. It is one that I am already watching again and again. Hayley sounds fabulous and looks absolutely gorgeous, and yes, I enjoy Rolando too.
Actually I always thought Bocelli overpowered Hayley on "Dell Amore Non Si Sa" on Odyssey. But Hayley was only 17 when she recorded that, and has much more power now (or is more prepared to use it - too much power too soon can damage a young singer's voice)..
Rolando is a very fine singer in my opinion. I would certainly rate him against some of the softer voiced tenors - and Libby, for me I'm afraid for me he blows Josh Groban and his like out of the water.
But, if we were all alike in our musical preferences, there would be nothing to argue about!
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Post by sonata58 on Dec 20, 2011 23:30:01 GMT
I haven't been very active here this year. But I'm subscribed to the HWI YouTube channel. Thank you for posting the video of Hayley's Royal Variety Performance. It was exquisite! Hayley looked beautiful and sang beautifully.
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Post by Dave on Dec 21, 2011 0:22:56 GMT
I haven't been very active here this year. But I'm subscribed to the HWI YouTube channel. Thank you for posting the video of Hayley's Royal Variety Performance. It was exquisite! Hayley looked beautiful and sang beautifully. Hi Sonata58, glad to see you posting again and and thanks for your nice comments, which prompted me to have a quick look at the numbers. There are 1,422 subscribers there now, twice as many as there are forum members, which was a bit of a shock as I hadn't checked for a while! So although we (hwivid and members' own channels) started our Youtube involvement rather late, it's paying dividends now and hopefully like the forum, and our Facebook and website too, helps to spread the Hayley word. Cheers, Dave |
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Post by comet on Dec 21, 2011 9:13:05 GMT
So although we (hwivid and members' own channels) started our Youtube involvement rather late, it's paying dividends now and hopefully like the forum, and our Facebook and website too, helps to spread the Hayley word. Cheers, Dave Ah yes ! I do remember a certain reluctance to post videos to YouTube. I did suggest it just after Shepherd's Bush. The suggestion was met with a degree of shock / horror  The times they are a changin' YouTube is currently my favourite waste of time. I go on to look at one video, then it offers me another or I see something of interest on the right hand column. Luckily the computer I am on at the moment crashes if it goes to any link with video content. (Still haven't figured that problem out). |
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Post by postscript on Dec 21, 2011 18:45:37 GMT
Here we go folks. ATTENTION all KIWIS: "The annual concert, which this year was attended by Princess Anne, screens in New Zealand on Christmas Day at 7.25pm on TV One." The full text is here www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10774659And don't lose heart, assuming they broadcast as we saw it on UK TV she's in the 2nd part, apart from right at the beginning with the State Trumpeters. And this time she's home to see it herself! With all her family, or could they possibly be all out having a barbecue! Peter S. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 22, 2011 8:24:55 GMT
Hello Simba and everybody! To get back on topic, this tweet gave me a good laugh this morning: Richard ROFL! Well, I'd have to agree that Hayley looked gorgeous...  *** As for duet partners for Hayley, I want to hear her sing with Nathan Gunn, who is the best living male singer I know of. I suspect they could create something utterly amazing. I've moved Libby's reply to Mormon Tabernacle Choir... Richard |
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Post by Libby on Dec 22, 2011 23:58:31 GMT
Rolando is a very fine singer in my opinion. I would certainly rate him against some of the softer voiced tenors - and Libby, for me I'm afraid for me he blows Josh Groban and his like out of the water. Martin, how many of Josh Groban's songs have you heard? He does have a powerful voice. Have you ever heard Josh Groban singing O Holy Night? His voice sounds absolutely perfect. He uses his voice the right way in just the right parts of the song; low and gentle at the beginning, and more powerful, yet not overdone, in the more powerful parts of the song. He is able to sound powerful and amazing without being unusually loud. He may not have an operatic voice like Rolando does, though, but that doesn't mean he's not as good of a singer.  He could sing operatic arias just fine, but that's not his style. I agree about one thing: Rolando blows many singers out of the water as far as volume. Rolando may outdo Josh in that way, but not in any other way, IMO. Well, I would say his curly head of hair outdoes Josh's, though. You also have to take into account that Rolando is a tenor, but Josh Groban is a baritone (although he sings some songs higher than he used to). Okay, so maybe you like tenors better, and I like baritones. That's probably why I'm not crazy about JA, either. Actually, him I liked just fine in Today Won't Come Again, but as soon as he goes high, I have to turn it down or off. A guy singing in a high voice just doesn't always sound good to me, unless it's falsetto. I can take falsetto, as long as they sound good doing it. Do you say Hayley, a soprano, is a better singer than a mezzo-soprano just because you like sopranos better than mezzos? Well, of course we all think she's better than most singers, and she is, but not just because she's a soprano, it's because she's Hayley. Anyway, just because you like an operatic tenor better than a less-operatic baritone doesn't mean one is better than the other. Josh is not an opera singer, although he has done broadway-type stuff in school, and he also took part in the play Chess in London a few years ago. But you can't really put him up against an opera singer any more than you can put Hayley up against one. It isn't fair. Especially since Josh is not really so classical anymore. For me, gentler, lower (but not bass, necessarily), voices are just far more pleasant to listen to than harsh operatic ones. That's exactly why I do not like opera. It doesn't mean I think opera singers aren't good at what they do, it just means I don't enjoy listening to them. With a few (very few) exceptions. If I hadn't had any trouble hearing Hayley over him, I would not have had an issue with him. If not for that, I think I would have enjoyed him a lot more. So it's not the tone of his voice that I didn't like, actually. I do think he has a good voice. I just wouldn't buy his albums or go to one of his concerts, that's all. Just like you probably wouldn't go to a Josh Groban concert. You'd be outnumbered by swooning women for one thing. |
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He could sing operatic arias just fine, but that's not his style.