Sad Hayley Fans

[Joe]

Oct 25, 2010 23:58:02 GMT @larryhauck said:

I'm starting this thread for all of the avid Hayley fans that don't get a chance to see her. All of you lucky people that have her in your small area should take care as to not continue to post your personal nuances related to your ability to attend so many concerts.
I'm sure none of you intend to make the others feel bad ; but just think before you post.
Of course we love to hear the concert reports and see the great pics that some of you provide.

Anyone with a comment on this subject should PM me and I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

Larry

I would like to comment here if I may. I thank my lucky stars that so many Britons attend Hayley concerts. I often think they do because we cannot. They even take time out, often on the train home or in a hotel room, to relay the first mention of how the evening went.

Our members' reports and photo rival or even exceed the quality found in the press.

There is nothing to be sad about Larry. Be grateful.

[Libby]

I am not sad. Well, a little, but mostly, I try to stay hopeful. I mostly focus on ways to try to promote her and make her more well-known. So maybe being sad about not getting to see her is what keeps me so driven to get her here. I would say I'm passionate about it, but I don't waste my time being sad.

[failedreaper]

i may not ever get a chance to see her in concert...but i'm always hopeful that someday i will

[stevemacdonald]

I think the worst case of sadness goes to those who've seen Hayley once or twice but won't get a chance to again. And there is also something called "Post Hayley Concert Syndrome" -- a condition which leaves the sufferer acutely depressed that the event is over and she's left the building. Oh sure, it's very uplifting to attend a Hayley performance and maybe even meet/greet her afterwards, but the pangs of "PHCS" set in soon enough. Not everyone is susceptible, but it's a dreadful feeling that makes basic sadness feel like a vast improvement. Some of the presently sad fans don't know how lucky they are not to have to experience PHCS. Methinks the high rate of repeat concertgoers, many of whom have seen Hayley perform dozens upon dozens of times, attests to the effects of PHCS. As someone once quipped, "the only cure for a Hayley concert is another Hayley concert." Indeed.

[John H]

Oct 25, 2010 23:58:02 GMT @larryhauck said:

I'm starting this thread for all of the avid Hayley fans that don't get a chance to see her. All of you lucky people that have her in your small area should take care as to not continue to post your personal nuances related to your ability to attend so many concerts.
I'm sure none of you intend to make the others feel bad ; but just think before you post.
Of course we love to hear the concert reports and see the great pics that some of you provide.

Anyone with a comment on this subject should PM me and I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

Larry

Larry, when I saw the title of this thread, I thought you were referring to recent posts in the chat thread. Hayley has a rare gift of being able to reach through sadness and lift the spirit.

I would describe the emotion you have identified more as feeling sorry for yourself, but I take your point about being sensitive to others’ situations. After my first post about the Croydon concert, I realized that one of my remarks to you could have been taken as rubbing salt into the wound. It certainly wasn’t intended that way and I thank you for your gracious reply on that occasion.

I count myself as incredibly fortunate to have seen Hayley twice last month. The first time was a complete surprise and the second was only possible due to other plans going awry. Meeting Hayley is exciting, and it is something you want to share. I really hope that more people in your country and around the world will get the opportunity to see Hayley before too long and I look forward to hearing of their experiences.

Thank you for your warning; I will take your words on board. We should always try to be aware of the consequences of our own actions upon other people, and I apologize if I have inadvertently caused distress to anyone in my enthusiasm.

John

[Steve H]

Oct 26, 2010 9:48:45 GMT John H said:

Thank you for your warning; I will take your words on board. We should always try to be aware of the consequences of our own actions upon other people, and I apologize if I have inadvertently caused distress to anyone in my enthusiasm.

John

Hello John,

I don't think you have anything to apologise about, we encourage members to share their experiences and memories of attending Hayley's concerts and events, whether its your first event or your eighty first event!

Hello Larry,

Some members from the USA see Hayley more regularly than a large proportion of Hayley's UK audience, some New Zealanders have seen more Hayley concerts in the UK than at home - distance does not stop you seeing Hayley, look at the turnout in the far east.

Yes, those of us who live in the UK do get to see Hayley more than some of our overseas members, that's simply because Hayley lives here. But would you rather we kept that to ourselves or would you rather that we share our reports, photo's and video's with you - I personally spend most of my time at concerts taking photographs for the benefit of all our members wherever they live, and I will continue to do so.

Steve H

[milewalker]

Oct 26, 2010 17:33:11 GMT Steve H said:

Hello Larry,

Some members from the USA see Hayley more regularly than a large proportion of Hayley's UK audience, some New Zealanders have seen more Hayley concerts in the UK than at home - distance does not stop you seeing Hayley, look at the turnout in the far east.

Yes, those of us who live in the UK do get to see Hayley more than some of our overseas members, that's simply because Hayley lives here. But would you rather we kept that to ourselves or would you rather that we share our reports, photo's and video's with you - I personally spend most of my time at concerts taking photographs for the benefit of all our members wherever they live, and I will continue to do so.

Steve H

This may not be the most insensitive post I have ever read on this forum, but it is surely in the top ten.

[larryhauck]

Please accept my apology if I offended anyone in my ill advised post of Sad Hayley Fans. Many of you have met me and know I'm not an envious person.
I was just feel a bit ticked off because of the latest cancellations I was the victim of. To date I've had six concerts canceled on me after I had made arrangements to attend. Once I was already in the U K and had driven to Wales and waited a week there. Then the BOB cancellations with no explanation got me again.
However this is in no way the fault of the people who attend the concerts so I was out of line. Actually I like to hear about the shows and I really love the photos.
I'll be in Manchester, Birmingham, and London so feel free to give me the tongue lashing I deserve.

Larry

[tracy]

Oct 26, 2010 6:02:48 GMT stevemacdonald said:

I think the worst case of sadness goes to those who've seen Hayley once or twice but won't get a chance to again. And there is also something called "Post Hayley Concert Syndrome" -- a condition which leaves the sufferer acutely depressed that the event is over and she's left the building. Oh sure, it's very uplifting to attend a Hayley performance and maybe even meet/greet her afterwards, but the pangs of "PHCS" set in soon enough. Not everyone is susceptible, but it's a dreadful feeling that makes basic sadness feel like a vast improvement. Some of the presently sad fans don't know how lucky they are not to have to experience PHCS. Methinks the high rate of repeat concertgoers, many of whom have seen Hayley perform dozens upon dozens of times, attests to the effects of PHCS. As someone once quipped, "the only cure for a Hayley concert is another Hayley concert." Indeed.

Hi Steve
When I first read this comment the first thing that came to mind was that you might be bordering on the weird no nastiness intended; :wink: but then after thinking about your PHCS for a few minutes it reminded me of the feeling you get, well I get from a rodeo, there’s the build up of anticipation as you prepare for an event, the incredible adrenalin rush especially in the calf roping events and the excitement when you take out first prize, or the barrel racing when your adrenalin is pumping like crazy as you come round the last barrel and into the home run, your horse is powering those huge muscles right underneath you and then there’s the winding down as you collect your ribbons and your so worn out that you can hardly walk, but as you pack up there is the sadness that its all over for another year, unless your a circuit junky naturally, but I have often been tempted to head for the next closest rodeo or gymkhana because the PRS sets in and it is a sadness and hollow feeling and you feel the only cure is another rodeo; so I can totally relate to what your saying even though I have never experienced a Hayley concert.
And I wonder why they have to play songs like “for the good times” over the loudspeakers when your packing up and already feeling sad; probably just to rub it in I guess.
Much love Tracy.

[comet]

Oct 27, 2010 4:13:40 GMT tracy said:

And I wonder why they have to play songs like “for the good times” over the loudspeakers when your packing up and already feeling sad; probably just to rub it in I guess.
Much love Tracy.

If it is the Kris Kristofferson version, (Magik)
it is hard to find a better version.

You can be sure there are other people there who don't even notice that there is any music playing at all..we are lucky to be people who are touched by music, It is a blessing that will probably stay with you all your life.

[mihizawi]

Ok, Jon, I may be even more insensitive than Steve now. We all are very sad because of the inconveniences that Larry (and others) have suffered and we have always been as supportyive to him as we could, we all agree that his frustration is very understendable, and, believe me, we all would like to Hayley visit as mane countries as possible, including USA... But all we can do is, as Libby is always doing, make suggestions to her management team... Other than that, we are not responsible of the way Hayley's career is managed and it is indeed unfair to ask the members to stop sharing their Hayley experiences in all the detail and with all the excitement they wish, because that's one of the main purposes of this forum and I am sure most people are here to read how amazing Hayley is and how great it s to be in one of her concerts, even if we can't attend to any of them. I know Hayley for more than a year now, and to date haven't been able to see her live, and probably I will have to travel to UK to see her, and I don't know when will I find the chance to do so, so, for now, this forum and her albums is pretty much all I have to enjoy her.

Michal

[grant]

Hi Tracy and Steve

We haven't used the expression on the forum lately but I think what you are referring to Steve is "Hayleywowedness" - Tracy, you probably haven't come across this expression before but it is basically the condition brought on by exposure to a live Hayley concert that will leave pretty much everyone wanting more. There isn't a cure but the symptons can be relieved by further exposure to Hayley i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif

I agree with you Steve that it is probably more difficult for people who have seen Hayley in concert once or twice but have been unable to repeat the experience, essentially because of distance, than it is for people who have yet to see Hayley perform. I'm sure that's how I would feel.

Best wishes
Grant

[Steve H]

Thanks for that Grant,

I too remember how very low I became after my first concert at St John Smiths Square in London, many years ago, I think the incredible high set me up for the fall and the antidote was HWI and another concert booked for eight months later! It does get easier!

Now to lighten things up around here I could not resist this!

Oct 26, 2010 19:15:01 GMT milewalker said:

This may not be the most insensitive post I have ever read on this forum, but it is surely in the top ten.

That's typical of me I never win anything - but top 10 I can live with! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif

Steve H

[stevemacdonald]

Before more sensitive toes get stepped on, let's review the facts:

Many are privileged to see Hayley dozens and dozens of times and will continue getting to see her again and again. And sadly, many other fans will rarely, if ever, get the chance for reasons that are entirely plausible.

This is actually pretty standard in the music world and not just about Hayley. Over the years we've learned of "groupies", Dead Heads, "stagedoor Johnnies", "Grobanites", "Divettes", etc., who seem to make a career out of following the objects of their devotion around. Clearly, Hayley has groupies and there's absolutely no shame in being one, if only vicariously outside of the UK.

I say we should take our sadness and wounded sensitivity with a grain of salt and consider that without super-diehard fans Hayley would be missing out too. They give her great feedback, excellent coverage, thoughtful reviews and friendly energy wherever she goes. That, in turn, enhances her career on many levels --which benefits all her fans over time.

[comet]

HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET HOW IT USED TO BE

A Hayley concert and only one post in the thread.


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