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Post by mihizawi on May 15, 2010 8:38:18 GMT
Hmm... There's also another possibility: that she is co-writing and co-composing the songs with him, as she's always done with her own songs. I love Hayley's style in songwriting too, but I think she doesn't feel comfortable enough to make the whole composing, so she looks for advice and help from someone who has more knowledge and experience in composing. That's why I think all of her songs are said to be co-written. Maybe someday she won't need it anymore and she'll feel confident enough to write and compose the songs on her own (maybe, as I suggested before, some deeper studying of the music theory would help).
Yet, I don't know if that's the case or not, was just pointing out that possibility... Oh, well, time will show.
Michal
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Post by grant on May 15, 2010 13:37:39 GMT
Martin, you're speculating again and - well, let's face it, you're not very good at it!  There is quite a lot of information out there if you look for it now the cat is well and truly "out of the bag"! and, whilst all the articles say basically the same thing, this is a 'collaboration' between Hayley and Ennio and to me that means more than Hayley adding a few vocals. Significantly, as well, Hayley said in her interview with Nicola that she was writing songs for the new album, so we know at least some of the tracks will be Hayley's The following press release from The Outside Organisation, who appear to be handling PR for the album, is the most comprehensive www.outside-org.co.uk/index.php?/publicity/clients/entertainment/hayley_westenraHayley is clearly very excited about her collaboration with Ennio and it seems to me to be a huge feather in her cap that such an iconic figure is writing songs for her. Perhaps we should just accept that and leave them to get on with it! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Roger-G on May 15, 2010 14:02:40 GMT
It does sound however as if Hayley will only feature on part of the album, which would be a little disappointing if true...
"will feature new songs written by Morricone for Hayley as well as some of his best known film compositions of the last 50 years."
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Post by grant on May 15, 2010 14:12:25 GMT
It does sound however as if Hayley will only feature on part of the album, which would be a little disappointing if true...
"will feature new songs written by Morricone for Hayley as well as some of his best known film compositions of the last 50 years."; You're speculating again!!! [/b][/color][/quote] Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Roger-G on May 15, 2010 14:29:02 GMT
Don't get so excited Grant.
I haven't speculated in any way, shape or form.
I only quote from the official release which says that the album will feature some of Morricone's best known film compositions. Most of those are instrumental only.
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Post by grant on May 15, 2010 14:41:29 GMT
Don't get so excited Grant. HaHa! If you think that's excited you should see me when I really am!!  Mmmm - at the moment! (Ooopps! Is that speculative?  ?)  Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Richard on May 15, 2010 16:50:33 GMT
Perhaps 'somebody' is adding lyrics... Oops! Now I'm speculating too! Richard  |
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2010 17:39:11 GMT
I haven't speculated in any way, shape or form. I only quote from the official release which says that the album will feature some of Morricone's best known film compositions. Most of those are instrumental only. Hi Roger G, I've heard that it's a "Hayley" album and in order to qualify for the UK's main album chart, that means she has to participate in every track. Otherwise, it would have to be either a "Morricone" album (which it isn't, or wasn't when I heard) or "Various Artists" album (which would make no sense at all). I am very much hoping that now Katherine Jenkins has left the Decca/Universal stable, Hayley has become their new classical crossover "glamour" star - if so, the Classical BRITS would have been a good second step (the first being last year's Festival of Remembrance). If this is so, the album will have a much higher profile than her recent ones and an Ennio Morricone theme can only enhance that. Fingers crossed! Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Richard on May 15, 2010 18:00:29 GMT
Hello Dave! Hayley's jewellery at the Classical BRITs could add weight to your theory there.  Richard  |
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Post by grant on May 15, 2010 18:45:49 GMT
Hayley's jewellery at the Classical BRITs could add weight to your theory there.
Richard Well they'll certainly add value!! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Roger-G on May 15, 2010 19:39:47 GMT
Hi Roger G, I've heard that it's a "Hayley" album and in order to qualify for the UK's main album chart, that means she has to participate in every track. Otherwise, it would have to be either a "Morricone" album (which it isn't, or wasn't when I heard) or "Various Artists" album (which would make no sense at all). Cheers, Dave I don't disagree with you one little bit. I only lift a finger of caution because of what was said in the press release about the album including some of Morricone's film compositions. It would be disappointing if true, as I said in my first post, because if I want that material it is already available in many other releases. |
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Post by nicola on May 15, 2010 23:23:27 GMT
I absolutely can't wait for this! I'm a huge fan of Morricone! What an honour for Hayley!
XD XD XD
I only hope that Nella Fantasia doesn't feature, but I don't mind the standard 'La Califfa' creeping in - it's absolutely beautiful. My Heart And I was a Morricone piece, wasn't it?
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Post by Libby on May 16, 2010 5:28:44 GMT
It does sound however as if Hayley will only feature on part of the album, which would be a little disappointing if true... "will feature new songs written by Morricone for Hayley as well as some of his best known film compositions of the last 50 years." My take on this is that she will record new songs written by Ennio for Hayley, maybe co-written by Hayley, too. Then Hayley will sing some already existing Ennio compositions. It is possible to put lyrics to compositions that didn't have any before; Hayley herself has done that, with Melancholy Interlude, remember?  I'm hoping there'll be a little more variety than just Ennio songs, though. That's what I've always loved about Hayley's albums. I'd be sad if there were no Maori songs, hymns, or Celtic/Irish songs.  Although I guess we did get a lot of Celtic/Irish on the last 2 albums. I guess she can't do everything on 1 album, but still... maybe at least 1, like My Lagan Love or Wild Mountain Thyme, or one I've never heard of, even. Oh, and since she's learning French, maybe a French song, too? Anyway, I'm pretty sure this is going to be a Hayley album, just with a lot of Ennio Morricone compositions, new and otherwise. This is supposed to be her new international album, after all. I don't think we'll be disappointed. And I thought Hayley said it probably be out in November? Maybe some version or other will be out earlier. Or maybe they want it out no later than November? Nicola, Hayley already recorded My Heart and I for Pure. And here's an interesting tidbit on that: In her biography, The World at Her Feet by Paul Little, it said that Ennio was "reluctant to part with the music, even though rights to the song had been negotiated. 'We had to get someone to listen and write down the lyrics and arrangement,' says Hayley." They had to record the vocals and music separately in case they had to change a word (whereas the other songs she mostly recorded with the orchestra). I guess he's not as reluctant about his songs anymore! |
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Post by Martin on May 16, 2010 8:41:10 GMT
When the UK album is released later this year let's hope that there is a tour, however short, to promote it. My dream would be for Hayley to perform in concert with Ennio Morricone and orchestra at a concert venue in London such as the Cadogan Hall. Martin |
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Post by nicola on May 16, 2010 9:05:45 GMT
Yes, Libby, I know she did it, just couldn't remember if it was Morricone's.
Morricone doesn't like parting with his music, it seems. Took Sarah Brightman years to get permission to turn 'Gabriel's Oboe' into 'Nella Fantasia'. She literally kept writing to him, he kept saying 'no', until he got so sick of her he just relented. XD
It must be a big thing for him to work with Hayley like this. He must really respect her.
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I'm hoping there'll be a little more variety than just Ennio songs, though. That's what I've always loved about Hayley's albums. I'd be sad if there were no Maori songs, hymns, or Celtic/Irish songs. 
Although I guess we did get a lot of Celtic/Irish on the last 2 albums. I guess she can't do everything on 1 album, but still... maybe at least 1, like My Lagan Love or Wild Mountain Thyme, or one I've never heard of, even. Oh, and since she's learning French, maybe a French song, too? 
