martindn: Well if someone has 'really' forgotten the words, they'd best try to cover it up, like you said, that itself shows the difference. Ofcourse they'd try to put in words that would make some sense to fit in with the music (I've done that many times XD myself) But this time...I think it was really on purpose, which makes it all the more exceptional.
And Juliette: I'll try it with VLC player XD I really want to see a video of it lol...
She said she hadn't done this song for a while. Even if she plays the piano really well - and I praise her courage to play it like that in front of many people, she's very talented - she's not a professional piano player.
It means that she had to concentrate on the piano part as well as on the lyrics part. If she seemed calm, it's because there's nothing to become stressed about. It was a second encore that she hadn't done for the three other concerts, it was the last show of the tour and I guess she found it more funny that she was forgetting the words than getting stressed because for the LAST song of the LAST show, being an encore she hadn't done for a while, she wasn't perfect.
We don't really hear it in the video, but when she turns towards the audience, she says something like: "I've forgotten the words" (if you listen carefully, you can hear 'words')
Why trying to make the audience participate? It would have been a bet: I helped her because I was singing the song in my head and it was immediate, but what if nobody did? River is not a song known by everybody, like a carol can be. I think she knew that not everybody in the theatre is a big fan knowing all her songs. She wouldn't have taken deliberately the risk to make the audience sing or help her for a song they may don't know by heart.
Moreover, what makes me say she did forget the words is that she wasn't completely sure on the piano part. She did really well, honestly, but at some point, she made a mistake in the piano part and she had to start again the measure - watch the video around 1:12min, you may notice it. I know you could say: it's not a mistake and everything. When I was at the concert, at that particular moment, I feared that she wouldn't remember the piano part, you could clearly hear that she had made a mistake.
Hayley forgot the words that night, and she reacted as a complete professional, because she didn't start to panic or to stress, she admited it with a laugh and went on her song. She didn't made of that moment something she would be ashamed of or a moment people would be making fun of during her carreer, but a moment very funny and amusing.
Hayley is just a human, she can sometimes forget the words of a song she hasn't done for a while, but that night she proved us that even when the 'human part' reappear, she manages to stay an amazingly professional artist.
Hayley forgot the words that night, and she reacted as a complete professional, because she didn't start to panic or to stress, she admited it with a laugh and went on her song. Juliette
Hi Juliette I entirely agree with your conclusions and, furthermore, Hayley is not the type of person to "manipulate" the audience in order to get them to participate. If Hayley says she forgot the words then that is good enough for me.
I think 'misplaced the words' might be more likely and by asking the audience for help gave her a few seconds to sort herself out and carry on. The fact that you helped her was a bonus that I think both Hayley and the audience appreciated - Hayley has always enjoyed the chance to interact with her audiences and, on this occassion, she turned a little hiccup, very effectively, to her advantage.
This is something that Hayley seems very good at - proving that she is 'only human' yet still managing to be the consumate professional throughout.
As I tried to hint at on the previous page, I agree with Spiderman on this one, and like him, I'm not at all comfortable with the way the thread has turned into a detailed discussion about one particular incident in the show.
It's not that I think it shouldn't be mentioned, just that this one small part of the show has somewhat taken over the thread, so I'll feel a lot happier if we can now move on from this and get back to discussing the other 99% of what sounds like a wonderful show!
Yes, I think that we should not make too much of Hayley's error - if it was anything like the Briminghan show, and I'm sure it was, everything else was faultless. You tend to forget that about Hayley. She is so spot on nearly all the time that when something goes wrong you tend to give it undue prominence just because it is so unusual.
She probably mentioned her problems with the sleigh bells last year too, she did at Birmingham, which prompted Andy to say "you lost it", something those further from the stage might not have heard.
But with my generic hat on, I did not say as much as I would have liked to about the Birmingham show, becuse it could have spoiled this one for some people.
So I can confirm that yes, as a veteran of Hayley's Christmas shows, this year's was the best ever. Here performances were uniformly stunning. Song after song was absolutely brilliantly performed.
The highlight, difficult to say but probably Te Harinui/Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. The first a song I had never heard before, the second very familiar, but still Hayley made it her own, and showed us just how good her interpretation is these days.
Of course O Holy Night was performed with her customary power and conviction, but every song she sang was wonderful.
I cannot believe that anyone went home disappointed because of that little error, and in any case by all accounts she dealt with it brilliantly. I would still rather hear those songs sung by Hayley than by anyone else on the planet. Not a single song would I want to be any different.
I rate Birmingham as a candidate for the greatest concert performance I have experienced in my life! The Barbican seems to have had a better atmosphere, so could have been even better.
Dave, I'll try not to go into too much detail. :wink:
I tend to agree with Juliette. If Hayley actually said she forgot the words, I believe her. I don't think she would lie to the audience just for entertainment value. I bet she could've remembered them on her own very soon, but Juliette helped her.
For what it's worth, I was fairly close to the front and don't think Hayley pretended to forget the words, but the couple of mistakes (if you can call them mistakes) in the evening just made the whole experience even more endearing to me. I enjoyed this more than any other concert I've been to before, and am still thinking about it nearly two weeks later.
Now the only question is whether to listen to Winter Magic through the year (as per last year) or to wait till next Christmas!