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Post by nicola on May 30, 2010 22:37:11 GMT
LOL! That the song featured on the Dance show. XD XD XD
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Post by Libby on May 31, 2010 4:28:10 GMT
Thanks! I was hoping that's what it was! I've watched the show from the very first season, so I loved the show already. The smooth waltz to Dark Waltz was the very first dance of the season in 2008, on the very first night of competition. When I first heard the music starting, I almost couldn't believe it, and I was so excited that they used her song! It was a beautiful dance, and the judges loved it! I remember one person on the forum thought it was Celtic Woman singing it. I guess they got that because they recognized her voice from the group. In the 2009 summer season, a couple danced another waltz to May it Be. It was nice, but the judges couldn't stand it because it was "too slow", and it was like "pulling teeth" to watch. But then other people said that song is used all the time in dancing competitions! So apparently the song is fairly well-known in the ballroom dancing world in the U.S. It was the same choreographer who chose the songs both times, named Hunter Johnson, I think. I hope they use more of her songs in the future. I was thinking Beat of Your Heart would work for a rumba, or River of Dreams for another waltz. Or even Heaven. Or what about Both Sides Now? It would be nice to use songs from her more recent repertoire, but unless they're planning to use Irish folk songs or Christmas songs, they don't have much to choose from.
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Post by mihizawi on May 31, 2010 8:44:31 GMT
Libby, River of Dreams can't be danced as a walttz as it is in 4/4 time, and the Waltz is a 3/4 step dance.
Michal
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Post by Libby on Jun 1, 2010 4:04:21 GMT
There is more than one type of waltz. Do they all have the same number of steps, or whatever? What about the Viennese waltz? How do you tell how many steps a song has, and what does that mean? Are you talking about the beats/rhythm?
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Post by Joe on Jun 1, 2010 4:32:36 GMT
Hi Libby I've found lots of useful info on the waltz on Wikipedia.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WaltzI think "Pure" is the best album to introduce someone to Hayley's music. It's a great showcase for her many singing styles. Best wishes, Joe
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Post by Jono on Jun 2, 2010 7:32:25 GMT
I agree with "Pure" being the album to start an addiction!
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Post by Richard on Jun 2, 2010 8:05:06 GMT
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Post by mihizawi on Jun 2, 2010 9:44:12 GMT
Hi, Libby, I'll try to explain you the thing the best I can.this rhythm thing which in musical terms is called the time signature of a song. Yes, it is basiccally the rhythm pattern a song follows. However, the notes in a song have different length, some are slower, some are faster,, and the combination of the lengths of the notes in a song is its rhythm. But that's not what we are talking about when when talking about 3/4 steps dance or time signature in a song.
Even if the lengths of the notes in a song can be differentg, they are fit into a (mostly) constant pattern, which is actually the basic rhythm pattern the song follows. When you clap or follow in any other way the rhythm of a song, you usually follow this pattern. You see, the time signature is how many beats are in this constant pattern. Although there are many more complicated patterns, the two most usual ones are the 4/4 time (4 beats pattern) and the 3/4 time (3 beats pattern), being the first one quite more common than the second.
Without having the sheet music, you can try to guess the pattern counting at a constant pace the beats of a song. Without practice, it can be hard, as the pace is faster in some songs than the other, and in some songs it is very clear, but in many it is harder to guess it (percussion or some types of accompaniment. can help a lot). If you count at a constant pace "1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1..." and it fits the music, there are lots of possibilities that the song has 4/4 time signature, while if counting "1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1..." fits, you can be quite sure it is a 3/4 time signature. In River of Dreams, if you start counting at the first note that Hayley sings and following the pace of that first note, you'll see how the 4 time counting fits perfectly. It is a little harder in Dark Waltz, but you can notice it fits the 3 time counting. I wouldn't try to count to the May it be song, as I've seen in the musc sheet that, even though it is mostly in the 3/4 time signature, it has some parts where the time signature changes, so it can be a little confusing.
Of course, the time signature of a song is very important for dancing it, as dances are based in the rhythm pattern of the music, so, it is natural that not every dance suits every song. And the Waltz is the 3/4 time dance by excellence.
Hope that helps, Libby, and sorry for this quite being off-topic.
Michal
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Post by Libby on Jun 2, 2010 21:45:49 GMT
Don't worry, I think it's been kind of off-topic for some time now. How about Summerfly for a country line dance? They've only used that type of dance once before in all 6 seasons, but you never know when they might use it again. But I bet they'd use a more popular country song in America, not a song by a New Zealand classical crossover singer!
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Post by Jono on Jun 3, 2010 10:34:13 GMT
That's very true!
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Post by Libby on Jun 4, 2010 6:18:05 GMT
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Post by nicola on Jun 4, 2010 10:17:23 GMT
I stil listen to 'Winter Magic'... ! It's a good album! That's my defense!
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Post by grant on Jun 4, 2010 11:01:22 GMT
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Post by Dean McCarten on Jun 4, 2010 11:32:32 GMT
I stil listen to 'Winter Magic'... ! It's a good album! That's my defense! Nice to see I'm not the only one
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Post by martindn on Jun 4, 2010 21:31:50 GMT
And me, I've made the effort and put Winter Magic away, much as I love it. Although I was tempted to retaliate when my brother bought out Sting's Christmans album the other day.
Next Christmas if we bring it out, it won't stand a chance because we will have Hayley's new international album, which I'm sure none of us will be able to stop playing for months.
Martin D
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