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Post by Dori on Aug 31, 2009 1:31:54 GMT
I second that Cait. If River is the song I'm thinking of, I also can't wait to hear Hayley's version. It's going to be exciting!!
Dori
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Post by Libby on Aug 31, 2009 3:59:44 GMT
Our winter (well, fall, too!) will be made magical because of Hayley's beautiful, new album.
Well, I guess the market they're aiming for with this album all live where it's winter at Christmas time. She is already popular in New Zealand, so they don't need to worry about that as much.
I still don't see why they couldn't have called it Christmas Magic. It seems sort of like calling a Christmas tree a "holiday tree", or saying "Happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". Winter wouldn't be nearly as "magical" without Christmas.
Couldn't the reason for releasing a Christmas album just be that lots of people have wanted one, and that they know people will buy it because they know Hayley will record the prettiest versions of these songs ever?
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Post by Jillian on Aug 31, 2009 5:01:07 GMT
The way I see it, it's probably a good thing that there's been some preliminary releases before the next international album. If you look at it from a glass half full aproach, it may mean that a lot of thought and time is being put into it. It would be very easy for Decca to quickly draw up a list of 'safe classic crossover standards' and pump out an album at a fast pace. Creativity takes time, so I think it's good that there's been this little side project which will give Hayley some breathing space and hopefully a bit of financial security to make this next album less pressurised.  Also, it's a very clever move for Asia -- as it seems like they will buy anything with Hayley's name on it -- especially in Taiwan where all her albums are still in the top 10 classical charts. |
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Post by martindn on Aug 31, 2009 12:37:04 GMT
Hi Libby,
Of course it could be a UK political correctness thing. They wanted to take the religious implication out of it, especially as it will be sold in non-Christian countries. There was even talk at one time of renaming Christmas "Winterval" yuck! We hear a lot of anti-Christian stuff in the media over here these days!
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Post by stevemacdonald on Aug 31, 2009 18:37:21 GMT
... I still don't see why they couldn't have called it Christmas Magic. ... They really should if it's not too late. The term "winter magic" is an oxymoron for much of the world once you get past Christmas. However, I have seen my share of magical things on New Year's Eve, especially after the bubbly takes effect. And I suppose Valentine's is a magic winter day for anyone lucky enough to be in love, but are there any romantic songs on the album? |
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Post by nicola on Aug 31, 2009 21:14:10 GMT
Both Enya's and Sarah Brightman's albums last year were 'Winter' and not Christmas. 'And Winter Came' and 'A Winter Symphony' respectively. :/
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Post by Dori on Aug 31, 2009 23:14:13 GMT
Yes, exactly Nicola, and they were released in NZ, in the summer with no trouble. So I expect the same with Hayley's.
Dori
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Post by Libby on Aug 31, 2009 23:21:28 GMT
The way I see it, it's probably a good thing that there's been some preliminary releases before the next international album. If you look at it from a glass half full aproach, it may mean that a lot of thought and time is being put into it. It would be very easy for Decca to quickly draw up a list of 'safe classic crossover standards' and pump out an album at a fast pace. Creativity takes time, so I think it's good that there's been this little side project which will give Hayley some breathing space and hopefully a bit of financial security to make this next album less pressurised. I agree about this. I think it's partly because Hayley wants to have as much original material as possible (at least that's what she inidcated in that article about the Hampton pool concert). In order for her to do that, she needs enough time to think of good songs to write. It sounds like she's already been working on that, and she might want to use a few other songs she hasn't written, too. It's different for Enya, though. She is sort of a New Age singer, and you would expect her to sing about nature and stuff. Of course, Hayley likes it, too. I guess the reason it's called that is because not all of the songs are directly about Christmas. Most of them are, though.  Sleigh Ride isn't really about Christmas, and most other artists who record that still call it a Christmas album. |
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Post by martindn on Sept 1, 2009 20:42:36 GMT
Well, Libby, I'm sure the marketing guys have their heads screwed on. For me, I don't care what it is called as long as it sells and is successful. I would enjoy it whatever name was chosen. Being Hayley, it will most likely be one of the greatest Christmas/Winter albums ever recorded. We just have to hope it is promoted properly, if it is I'm sure it will do well. If there is just one TV advert in mid-November, and the supermarkets don't stock it in sufficient numbers, it will flop, in the UK at least. None of that has anything to do with its merits as an album, the quality of the songs or Hayley's performance or anything like that.. It is all about commercial interests and promotion. It seems a lot of people will buy what they are told to buy.
Martin
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Post by Libby on Sept 2, 2009 4:16:56 GMT
The title isn't really that big of a deal to me, and I think it's fine. I am very interested in hearing the songs I'm unfamiliar with. I'm especially interested in the Coventry Carol and the Corpus Christi one. I have no idea what they are, but I have a feeling they will be very beautiful songs.
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Post by jeroen on Sept 3, 2009 8:09:23 GMT
Hi Libby, Coventry Carol is a medieval Christmas carol. It was previously recorded by John Denver on his "Rocky Mountain Christmas" cd (that's how I know the song), and by several other artists. JD's version sounds pretty "medieval" too. I'm wondering what Hayley's version will be like. Here's the lyrics to the song: Lullay, thou little tiny Child, By-bye lully, lullay. Lullay, thou little tiny Child, By-bye lully, lullay. O sisters too, how may we do For to preserve this day, This poor Youngling for whom we sing By-bye lully, lullay. Herod the King, in his raging, Charged he hath this day; His men of might, in his own sight, All children young, to slay. Then woe is me, poor Child, for Thee, And ever mourn and say; For Thy parting nor say nor sing, By-bye lully, lullay. More information on the song can be found at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_CarolJeroen |
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Post by Martin on Sept 3, 2009 13:06:23 GMT
Hi All
HMV are now offering the best deal for this album priced at £8.99, with FREE UK delivery.
Guess who just ordered it?
Martin
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Post by maya on Sept 3, 2009 13:26:26 GMT
Well, I've just been trying to translate some of the Japanese on CDJapans website, just to reassure myself that I've ordered the right thing. The title, Fuyu no Kagayaki, I think comes out as something like "Radiance of Winter" or perhaps the original title "Winter Glow". So in Japan, there is nothing magical about winter. I'm sure there will be plenty that is magical about this album though! Martin Hi Martin. "Winter Glow" is just my translation and the official title is still "Fuyu no Kagayaki". The reason why I translated "Kagayaki" as "Glow" is just my feeling. "Kagayaki" has a meaning of "shining" or "radiating or emitting lights". So your word "Radiance" is also good, I think.  Winter here in Japan is different in locations. In Northern Japan, it snows often and a lot. In Southern Japan, it never snows and you even can enjoy swimming sometimes. In Tokyo or in central Japan, it snows just a little bit and you feel not too cold at outside. But compared to Southern California where I one have lived, it is much colder and darker. After returning to Japan, every year when winter comes, I always feel, "I wish I could escape here just for winter time.".  Speaking of "Fuyu no Kagayaki", the official site of Universal Music of Japan finally put the photo here. www.universal-music.co.jp/classics/hayley_westenra/information.htmlThey use exactly the same photo for "Winter Magic". Best wishes. Maya |
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Post by Martin on Sept 3, 2009 13:33:08 GMT
Annd I've just ordered the Japanese version of the album from CDJapan. Getting it 6 weeks earlier than the UK release is the clincher. Martin Hi Martin And at approx. £16.50 ($26.84) you will escape the extortionist Post Office & Customs and Excise import charges! However, you are paying around £8 to get it 6 weeks early. We will expect an early review of the album! Best wishes Martin |
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Post by jimg on Sept 3, 2009 13:40:59 GMT
Hi Maya,
Thanks for that. That looks exactly the same as the UK version, even the printing. I would think by the time it is released it will have the title in Japanese.
Jim
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Sleigh Ride isn't really about Christmas, and most other artists who record that still call it a Christmas album.
