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Post by grant on Oct 16, 2009 12:43:57 GMT
Hi Jono, Ben and everyone. I think the point some of us may be missing here is that our tweets to Hayley are as much for her enjoyment as they are for ours. It was Hayley's decision to take over her Twitter Account and she has tweeted consistently since. It would be very sad if she got no response at all! You may have noticed that she has responded to very few tweets whilst she has been touring Japan; and there have been some big gaps between tweets - no doubt due to the intricasies of touring and demands being put on her time. Importantly though, Hayley has been keeping us up to date when she can and, hopefully, she has had time to read what has been tweeted to her and enjoyed doing so. I notice that quite a few of the local fans have been suggesting places to visit and things to try as well as passing on congratulations and good wishes for the tour and for Winter Magic as some of us have. Hopefully, Hayley has enjoyed reading these because it will show her that she is in our thoughts and will keep us in hers. Ben, I think it will be a shame if you don't tweet Hayley but it may help to send tweets that don't expect or need a reply then you won't be disappointed about not getting one. You will, however, get quite a buzz when she does respond!  and I'm sure she will respond eventually. Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Jeff on Oct 16, 2009 13:52:15 GMT
Good point, Ben. I don't tweet so I am not disappointed when I don't get a reply. Like you I'm a casual observer. At least if you ask her something face to face you know you'll get some sort of reply !
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Post by drew on Oct 16, 2009 16:12:06 GMT
The reason I said 'stalker' is because I only met her briefly before and after the Dudley concert, right before she headed off to Taiwan, so she most probably doesn't remember who I am, and to suddenly get questions from someone she can't remember is slightly odd. Cheers Ben Ben, that means that you have already met Hayley twice. Hayley has an incredible ability for putting names against faces. The fact that she called me Dick at our second meeting is entirely forgiveable. Since you mentioned classical guitar to her I think that she will instantly remember you as MaestroMitch! |
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Post by BenCMitchell on Oct 16, 2009 16:27:41 GMT
Good point, Ben. I don't tweet so I am not disappointed when I don't get a reply. Like you I'm a casual observer. At least if you ask her something face to face you know you'll get some sort of reply ! Exactly my point Jeff! Thanks! Cheers Ben |
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Post by martindn on Oct 16, 2009 23:01:58 GMT
Hi Ben and Jeff,
Well, she still didn't remember my name on our sixth meeting. But I'm pretty sure she knows who I am now. She seemed to recognise me at Beaumanor, my first Hayley concert for eight months, and even replied to one of my tweets. All of these things are bonuses, we should not expect them of her.
When I tweet I do so because I think Hayley might like to hear what I have to say, not in expectation of a reply. Or to try to encourage her. I think she needs to know that we are interested in what she is doing, and that she has our love and support.
It must be hard for her to remember everybody. She must meet thousands of people, so we must make allowances. I am hopeless at remembering faces and putting names to them, I even failed to recognise Hayley on one occasion, so I actually think that Hayley does amazingly well.
You should not let yourself think that Hayley has something against you just because she doesn't reply to your tweets. I'm sure she doesn't.
I am sure it is important to Hayley to know she has friends. So tweet away. I'm sure she appreciates it even if she isn't able to reply to all of our messages.
Martin
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Post by BenCMitchell on Oct 16, 2009 23:28:12 GMT
Hi Ben, Well, she still didn't remember my name on our sixth meeting. But I'm pretty sure she knows who I am now. She seemed to recognise me at Beaumanor, my first Hayley concert for eight months, and even replied to one of my tweets. All of these things are bonuses, we should not expect them of her. When I tweet I do so because I think Hayley might like to hear what I have to say, not in expectation of a reply. Or to try to encourage her. I think she needs to know that we are interested in what she is doing, and that she has our love and support. It must be hard for her to remember everybody. She must meet thousands of people, so we must make allowances. I am hopeless at remembering faces and putting names to them, I even failed to recognise Hayley on one occasion, so I actually think that Hayley does amazingly well. You should not let yourself think that Hayley has something against you just because she doesn't reply to your tweets. I'm sure she doesn't. I am sure it is important to Hayley to know she has friends. So tweet away. I'm sure she appreciates it even if she isn't able to reply to all of our messages. Martin Hi Martin Thanks for that big message. It explained alot. I suppose one of the reason why I think that I am in some way bothering Hayley is the fact that others have said i bother them when I have talked to them online, whether it be a live chat or not. I interpreted this as 'learn from your mistakes'. I look at how others respond to messages from other mates (e.g Facebook) and its all happy and eager, them wanting to know more from that person, but in my case it was more like 'get lost.' I could never understand it - very strange. People come across in vastly different ways sometimes. From that experience, I will most probably always assume that no matter what I say online, live or not, will be interpreted as me being interfering. From my experience of reading what others have tweeted Hayley in the past, as well as from some of her replies, I can see that she is happy to spend some of the spare time that she has replying to messages on Twitter. However, it is the opposite case with other people when I wanted to chat - somehow I drive people away. I suppose i'm almost scared that Hayley will perceive me like this as well, even though she is a much more mature and sensible person compared to some on Facebook! This situation is quite worrying - maybe i'm cursed!! That is one of the reasons why I enjoy posting on this forum - There is a wide range of people from all over the world, and perceptions of others change from country to country, as well as people being wiser, more understanding and more helpful (compared to some on Facebook) I sometimes get replies, which is very uplifting and cheers me up no end. Also, being cheerful has a knock on effect to confidence, and that helps my guitar practise (sorry - a bit off conversation!!). i find that I can play a harder passage of music better if i'm confident than if i'm feeling down. Anyway, thanks again Martin for your words. Cheers Ben |
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Post by grant on Oct 16, 2009 23:49:53 GMT
Hello Martin Well, she still didn't remember my name on our sixth meeting. But I'm pretty sure she knows who I am now. Don't be so sure! I'm sure she will remember you before she remembers your name and she won't use that until she's certain she's got it right. I am sure it is important to Hayley to know she has friends. So tweet away. I'm sure she appreciates it even if she isn't able to reply to all of our messages. My point exactly! As I said before, our tweets are for Hayley's enjoyment as well as our own Best wishes Grant |
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Post by grant on Oct 17, 2009 0:04:42 GMT
Hi Ben I think you have just got to put these bad experiences behind you and join in. Instead of thinking that you're interfering, look upon it as 'participating' which is what you are doing here. People who tell you to get lost or that you 'bother them' have no respect for the feelings of others and should be avoided anyway! You have made friends here and you've already met Hayley and I agree with - was it Drew? who pointed out that she will remember you because of your conducting. Hayley's got two more concerts in Japan before she returns home. Why not tweet her "Good Luck" she may not reply but she will know you're thinking about her  Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Jono on Oct 17, 2009 12:12:04 GMT
I agree with Martin and Grant. I'm sure Hayley likes to read replies from us. Without the feedback she may not see much point in tweeting. Ben - if you think you'll be perceived as a stalker having only met Hayley once, what does that make me? (having never met her). It's up to you whether you tweet Hayley or not, I'm sure she is fine with having some silent listeners! Imagine if all 1000 followers replied after every single one of her messages!  |
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Post by BenCMitchell on Oct 17, 2009 12:19:55 GMT
You have made friends here and you've already met Hayley and I agree with - was it Drew? who pointed out that she will remember you because of your conducting. ...for which she seemed a bit puzzled! I accidentally did that at a recital in the main performance hall at the Conservatoire, not knowing that there were at least 5 people looking at me! Bad habits to get out of the habit of doing... One thing I do have to ask though is that how do you know if Hayley responds to tweets? Does it only appear if you click '@(whoever)' on your homepage, or does it show up on the list of activity on the 'Home' page? The reason I ask this is because a lot of people say that Hayley has replied to them but I can't seem to find any evidence of that! Does she send private messages or something?  Cheers Ben |
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Post by eva on Oct 17, 2009 12:38:19 GMT
I also don't understand Twitter....so if someone could answer Ben's question I would be reading with interest as well!! I see on my homepage Twitter answers to some people saying RT(person's name) but I don't know where that tweet is originally...I am following Katherine Jenkins as well as Hayley Westenra and I sent Katherine a "tweet" but it never came up on the page when I go to her name....I just don't get it!! But I am not computer savvy......Thanks
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Post by grant on Oct 17, 2009 12:59:25 GMT
Hi Ben and Eva
On your 'Home' page you will only see tweets sent by people you are following or that you send.
If you type 'HayleyWestenra' (with or without capitals but without spaces) in the search box on the right hand side, you will see all the tweets that Hayley sends to anyone whether you are following them or not and you should also see every tweet sent to Hayley (or whoever you search for)
You can also save searches which avoids the necessity to type names in every time.
If you type 'hayley westenra' you will see all tweets that mention Hayley but which are not directed to her specifically.
When you send a tweet it will appear on your home page and you should see a white banner that says "Your status has been updated" From experience, this does not always happen and, although your tweet appears on your home page, you sometimes can't see it on the page to whom you've sent the tweet. I'm assured, however, that the person tweeted will see it.
'RT' means Re Tweet. If you want to forward a tweet or include the tweet you're responding to, start with 'RT @' the new person will see your tweet and so will the originator.
I hope that helps. If I've got anything wrong or it needs more clarification, I'm sure our resident experts Jono or Dean will chip in.
Best wishes
Grant
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Post by Jono on Oct 17, 2009 13:11:45 GMT
From experience, this does not always happen and, although your tweet appears on your home page, you sometimes can't see it on the page to whom you've sent the tweet. I'm assured, however, that the person tweeted will see it. Grant is spot on apart from a little bit here. Anything you tweet will never appear on the other persons page to whom you've sent the tweet, except their home page, which you can't see. If the person is following you, they will see all of your tweets, otherwise they will see the tweets directed at them by clicking @username on their page. We made some tutorials HERE, and I would especially recommend looking at Jillian's. As for Ben's question of finding replies that were sent to people, you may have to look back into some past tweets! (multiple clicks of the "more" button i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif) |
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Post by eva on Oct 17, 2009 19:32:49 GMT
Thank you so much Grant and Jono for explaining that to me!! I am going to experiment with
this twittering stuff!! I really appreciate your help and explanations!
Eva
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Post by spiderman on Oct 18, 2009 1:08:19 GMT
haha... sorry, you make me laugh [in a nice way]. yes, twitter has its flaws but if it really bothers you... take your tweets out of the public stream and approve every request to read them like it do... no probs with stalkers then... but who would have time if they were hayley? [and anyway, theres no way to stop someone getting a new account]
ive tweeted hayley 3x now, no response, but then what i said didnt really require one, it was just a thought for her. im sure if she really took exception to someone, she'd block them. so if you are still able to read her tweets, your probably ok.
my thoughts on twitter... its the status bar in facebook, except less private. nothing else. if you need more, use facebook. im a little tired of people starting new "networking" sites... its like a yahoo group, you only need one.
still me, still stiring...
the spiderman
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and I'm sure she will respond eventually.
