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Post by Dori on Jul 11, 2007 9:38:45 GMT
Hi Richard I still believe Hayley had the time to write a book! I wonder who posed the idea to her, because i don't know if she would decided to do this, she's a very humble person. Or, maybe she wanted to write this book as an inspiration to others, and she could've wanted to try something other than singing for a while, thus, writing!! I can't wait to read it.... Dori
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Post by grant on Jul 11, 2007 14:37:40 GMT
Hi All!
Darren Henley certainly has an excellent pedigree.
I have not read Aled Jones' autobiography - yet! A friend of mine has it and has promised to lend it to me. I have seen it though and it looks very fine, very well produced and very well laid out.
As for HWI getting a mention, I'm sure we will, nor would I be surprised if some fans don't get a mention, though not necessarily by name, that can cause problems.
She could easily make reference to certain events or actions concerning fans such that that person would know it was them being referred to, but only that person and those close to him/her would know.
One way or another, it's going to be a fascinating read!
Best wishes Grant
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Post by roger on Jul 11, 2007 14:49:27 GMT
Darren Henley certainly has an excellent pedigree. I didn't even know he liked dogs! Neither had I realised that he wrote Aled's biography despite the fact that I have it here! Maybe I should read it! It begins: "The first time I heard about being summoned before the Prince of Wales was when I came home from school on a Monday afternoon." There you are... If you want the rest, it's published by Virgin Books! Roger
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Post by Martin on Jul 11, 2007 15:43:23 GMT
Hi Stephany, I guess Darren Henley must have edited down all the material which Hayley provided- thereby making him a co-author... I suppose (from mere speculation) that the book is perhaps an autobiography but has been labelled as a biography due to Darren's input. Andrew The usual term for this type of authoring is "ghost writing" whereby Hayley does all the talking and Darren does the writing and editing. So you could argue either way for it being an autobiography or a biography. I would say the former. A witty title but could also have been: "Hayley Westenra 'In her own voice' - Oh Gosh!" Martin
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jul 11, 2007 16:11:27 GMT
The main problem with having a biography at such a young age (regardless of the level of accomplishment) is that the rest of one's life is rendered anticlimactic. Sadly, Hayley will never again have the excitement of breaking through to the world stage. It's all been done and any further accounts will be redundant for sure.
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Post by roger on Jul 11, 2007 16:59:03 GMT
Hi Steve,
I am sure you will not be surprised when I disagree. Those of us who have heard of Hayley are still in the minority (worldwide) and therefore, she will never stop breaking through to the world stage and there is no reason to believe it will ever stop being exciting for her or for her fans.
The fact that there is to be a second biography recognises her remarkable achievements thus far. They are not about to end and so, if she wishes, there could be more biographies to follow.
As Keith said when he learned there was to be the original biography, "There is an amazing story here and it should be told before it becomes lost in the mists of time".
Roger
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Post by postscript on Jul 11, 2007 17:05:56 GMT
The main problem with having a biography at such a young age (regardless of the level of accomplishment) is that the rest of one's life is rendered anticlimactic. Sadly, Hayley will never again have the excitement of breaking through to the world stage. It's all been done and any further accounts will be redundant for sure. No way, Steve! There's more to this girl yet and when she feels she has gone as far as she can go in music or has established as much as a platform as satisfies her, that is when she will let certain views be known--partly because by then she will be comfortable in her knowledge of them and of her convictions on them. I would not be surprised to find her quite a campaigner when she's ready for that stage in her life. Peter S.
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Post by postscript on Jul 11, 2007 17:25:50 GMT
Hi Stephany, I guess Darren Henley must have edited down all the material which Hayley provided- thereby making him a co-author... I suppose (from mere speculation) that the book is perhaps an autobiography but has been labelled as a biography due to Darren's input. Andrew The usual term for this type of authoring is "ghost writing" whereby Hayley does all the talking and Darren does the writing and editing. So you could argue either way for it being an autobiography or a biography. I would say the former. A witty title but could also have been: "Hayley Westenra 'In her own voice' - Oh Gosh!" Martin The perception I gain is that perhaps a truer title might have been In Conversation With Hayley Westenra but this wasn't deemed as marketable as a biography. Libraries/booksellers need to know where and how to classify a book to know what shelf or section to put it on or in. It was probably intended as an autobiography but time/practicality does not allow her to do the keyboarding. Effectively he was a secretary but why not then just dictate to a machine? I suspect because there was interaction between them of structure and presentation. Possibly also keeping her mind on the job to meet the deadline! :2fun: Clearances will have been needed for photographs, liasion with the various publishing departments needed to produce a book. Advice regarding what was 'saleable'. He was probably her editor/publisher but the logistics of her doing it as an autobiography just weren't realistic. In Hayley's sense of fairness of giving proper attribution she/they probably felt this best described the relationship/contribution. For a publisher to keep tabs on a book by someone like Hayley would be an absolute nightmare. Peter S.
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jul 11, 2007 18:35:39 GMT
I wasn't lucky enough to obtain a copy of Hayley's first biography and I doubt I'll get my hands on the new one either. But I think any life story about her would be more meaningful once she's flown the majority of her missions. It just strikes me as early in the game, as though they felt a need to cash in while she's still basking in the not-too-long-ago success of "Pure" and its resultant meetings with leaders of the free world.
Hayley's popularity may be waxing globally but the momentum of her ascendance has been drastically reduced since "Pure". Her involvement in West Side Story may give her a huge boost, but that chapter is obviously too soon to be written -- which is a shame since it would be a fun read. If we must have a succession of Hayley bio books, timing is critical.
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Post by roger on Jul 11, 2007 18:46:10 GMT
I am surprised that you don't have the first biography, Steve, as they are easily available. Okay, I accept that a story about her would be more meaningful once she has "flown the majority of her missions" but that could still happen anyway. Yes, it is early in the game to have one, let alone two biographies, insofar as it is unusual. That doesn't make it wrong, IMO.
We know she has sold in excess of three million albums worldwide. It stands to reason that a lot of people who bought them would like to know more about her life and career history thus far. That would make books about her life very popular. This one might even become a best seller. That would, in itself, promote her name which could lead to further album sales.
In a nutshell, if there is a potential market out there, why not exploit it?
Roger
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Post by meldy on Jul 11, 2007 23:41:17 GMT
Wow, with all her busy schedule she even has time to write a book! What!! Then again, I like surprises This is great, I love literature and a whole book is going to be great to read!! Yes, she truly is a great role model, especially with the things she accomplished and did at her young age. Then another great quality, is that she's your ordinary girl!! And the even better part, she STILL is!! Meldy
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Post by Dave on Jul 22, 2007 3:02:48 GMT
Hello everyone, Full details of Hayley's new book are now up on the HWI main site and you can see them via the Latest News menu button, or directly if you click here.If you click on the thumbnail of the book cover there, you will get a nice surprise All information and the photo was received direct from Virgin Books and the publication date is confirmed as 25th October 2007.Cheers, Dave
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Post by Stephany on Jul 22, 2007 5:05:16 GMT
Great update, Dave. Thank you very much! Loved the presentation....and the high res picture Stephany
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Post by mariannek on Jul 22, 2007 6:03:25 GMT
Hello everyone, Full details of Hayley's new book are now up on the HWI main site and you can see them via the Latest News menu button, or directly if you click here.If you click on the thumbnail of the book cover there, you will get a nice surprise All information and the photo was received direct from Virgin Books and the publication date is confirmed as 25th October 2007.Cheers, Dave Christmas shopping here we come !!! I have read *The World at her Feet* twice so far and look forward greatly to this new edition. Love, Marianne
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Post by Richard on Jul 22, 2007 7:39:01 GMT
Great work, Dave! That is a wonderful presentation, and the high resolution picture of the cover is superb! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifChristmas is coming early this year! Best Wishes, Richard
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