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Post by postscript on Aug 13, 2008 15:06:12 GMT
As I can't reply to an administrator thread, should we include a capello etc if only to help maintain and encourage discipline? For such ruthlessness is a fearsome penalty we cannot afford. Peter S
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Post by roger on Aug 13, 2008 15:44:01 GMT
Hi Peter,
'A cappella' and all other musical terms appear in an English dictionary and are therefore perfectly acceptable.
Roger
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Post by postscript on Aug 13, 2008 17:03:07 GMT
Thank you martindn for the kind thoughts expressed in your post 223 and its general content, as well as 'thank you' to others who have kindly found what I knew was a difficult post to write, acceptable. I believed it was important to 'wrap up' in a positive way and that meant bringing back into the cycle the cause.
Initially, since the opening of this thread was so positive it felt like I was introducing the Nazi arrival at the music festival in The Sound of Music but it is part of the story and it is necessary to meet positively, unafraid, negative aspects, which was why I used the Communion service as metaphore, for that depicts the contradictory moods of life itself.
Likewise, it is interesting that your own valid experiences, Martin derive from a church association. You too use good parallels--'used for the hard of hearing' or for the 'declamation of 'hell fire and damnation''. Those priests of yore sure could raise the roof from their pulpits.
This might seem Hayley now has a problem. I think not. She already plays with taking the mike off its stand and replacing it dependent upon mood and style of delivery. There is nothing more physically demanding in leaving it on the stand and walking away from it or 'making love to it' when she wishes to be really soft voiced. In such delivery, as in a whisper, the microphone technique has a delivery advantage.
I remember my father being scathing when watching television and suddenly announcing, 'Oh dear, she's dying of consumption, yet she sounds as though someone has just trodden on her foot'!
A radio mike by her pillow or switching a body one on would help in delivering a more realistic death scene. One of many contradictions with the 'purists'' idea of operatic delivery a microphone would enable her to give all the breathy gasps in a far more realistic manner.
I can never remember Hayley ever not knowing what to do with her hands, probably hold them loosely in front of her as she did in St James but it is something she is going to have to work out in the way she swaps and changes through her programme. I do not see this demands any change in the sequence of her presentation.
What she will have to watch is the fact she does one night stands and she will need someone walking the auditorium to give her feedback for when she comes off stage. Martin has described this simply, I will expand on it more subtlety.
When you are in 'a run' it is easier to judge audience density, half, three-quarters full, summer or winter. When you know your theatre you notice the difference. Even in the open-air there is a different air density between a dry night and a wet night and ambiences of sound reception and the experienced actor can adapt to them: whether the audience has coats on or it is a hot day and light clothing only. The experienced actor notices this instinctively and adapts accordingly.
When a play moves from rehearsal room to stage this is what
the producer is doing, sitting in different areas, the 'dead' spots which are generally known historically but can vary according to set construction.
This is what I thought Jill was doing when Hayley was younger. Hayley's modern young staff do not seem to provide this--possibly because Hayley is now experienced enough to notice this for herself from the stage. She may have to consider this at the opening of a show and ensure her staff get back to her the moment she is offstage to give her the current report.
I think she will phase herself. It will depend upon on the number of performances within which period of time, size and ambience of auditorium. Her strategy will be phased-in according to many variables as she judges overall when it is best to do what.
Peter S.
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Post by timj on Aug 13, 2008 21:54:59 GMT
Thanks for the reports, pix and videos!...TimJ
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Post by martindn on Aug 15, 2008 11:38:51 GMT
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your comments, interesting as always. I was speaking to another member on the telephone yesterday, and happened to mention that singing without a mike gave Hayley the problem of what to do with her hands. He confessed he hadn't thought of it, but it is all part of breaking new ground and moving forward, something that in my opinion helps make following Hayley's career so fascinating. She is actually, I think, the most innovative musician I have come across for a long time, even though she does it in such an understated way that many would not see it.
I think you are exactly right when you say she will phase herself. She will do what she feels comfortable with, and we all know that we will love it. This is not picking up crumbs, it is drowning in beauty.
Martin
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Post by Natasha on Aug 20, 2008 2:31:29 GMT
I know I am super late replying to this thread but I simply had to express how proud I am of Hayley for singing without a microphone!! Although I've always been a fan of hers, I honestly did not believe she was capable of performing without a mike, and didn't even contemplate her trying it, but boy did she prove me wrong!  I hope I don't rain on anyone's parade by bringing up the issue with the other Dame *ahem* and while I am a fan of that ladies voice, I am so happy that she was proven so wrong!! 'Fake' singer indeed Kiri!  Thanks to everyone for the lovely pictures and videos - they are much enjoyed! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by Ross on Aug 20, 2008 7:12:39 GMT
The following article was in todays Christchurch Press. It tells of the great appreciation the choir got in England and at the end it mentions Hayley and Dame Malvina Major.   |
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Post by Dave on Aug 21, 2008 22:46:16 GMT
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Post by graemek on Aug 22, 2008 1:39:47 GMT
Thanks Dave, great work !!! Magnificent is the word for that performance.....enthralling maybe? Thanks too, Drew, for your risk taking & trouble for the clips you've made & for the top quality of your camera. And Ross, Hi & thanks for the article too. Graeme  |
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Post by Richard on Aug 22, 2008 7:22:35 GMT
Fabulous work, Dave and Drew!  I hope Dame Malvina sees the video. I'm sure she thoroughly enjoyed working with Hayley and being part of her world for a few hours. Best Wishes, Richard  |
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Post by grant on Aug 22, 2008 10:20:51 GMT
Fabulous work, Dave and Drew! I agree! I particularly enjoyed the extra bits of interaction at the beginning and end. I hope so too Richard and I'm sure she did enjoy working with Hayley. Hayley certainly did, she seemed totally blown away by the whole event whilst we were talking to her about it after the concert. I think you can also see it in both Hayley's and Dame Malvina's faces and body language during their performance - they're both loving every minute of it, and so they should. What a performance it was!! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Dave on Aug 24, 2008 2:53:28 GMT
For some reason (don't laugh!) Hayley reminds me of the wonderful Edith Piaf in parts of "Barcarolle". I think it's possibly the slightly unusual type of vibrato Hayley uses in one or two places, I can't think of any other explanation for it. Very strange! Edith Piaf - Hymne **SPAM? PLEASE REPORT L'Amour on YouTubeDave |
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Post by Stephany on Aug 24, 2008 3:50:28 GMT
Hi Dave,
This is an interesting comparison. Edith Piaf not only sings the words, she also gives full life to her songs and I believe Hayley does the same thing. With the lyrics, she creates her own world and performs wonderfully everything she sings.
I hope Hayley made some research beforehand and understood all the French words of Barcerolle. Her singing performance was wonderful so I presume she did. It certainly gave a lot of depth to her interpretation.
Stephany
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Post by Richard on Aug 30, 2008 7:11:01 GMT
Hello everybody! To tie up a loose end, I can now confirm that Will Martin's first song was 'Nature Boy'. He sang it again on yesterday's 'Friday Night is Music Night'. Richard |
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Post by I-H-F on Sept 2, 2008 0:30:33 GMT
Roger has already given a detailed account of the concert, but I did recognise Will Martin's last song. It was 'Don't Dream It's Over', which was sung as a duet by Hayley and Dave Dobbyn at the Shepherds Bush Empire last year. ...this concert seemed to have a big New Zealand feel about it. I presume the song 'Don't Dream Its Over' was the Crowded House hit. But, I thought they were Australian?  |
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