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Post by grant on Apr 2, 2012 0:01:18 GMT
Hi Dave I think this may be related  Frank has tweeted the link to a review of K2 HD - all double dutch to me Cheers Grant |
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Post by Dave on Apr 2, 2012 1:53:14 GMT
Hi Grant, Thanks for that link, which I had read previously. It doesn't alter the fact that a) it needs to be an official release before anyone should buy it (and that seems far from likely); and b) unless Decca mastered Pure originally in the higher definition format, it would be a pointless release anyway, as a standard CD would be at least as good. There are plenty of arguments among audiophiles anyway as to whether high definition mastering/formats like this allegedly is, actually sound any better than standard CD releases - but I'm not getting into that.  Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Libby on Apr 2, 2012 5:05:15 GMT
Ok, it's been long enough for at least SOMEONE to have collected all of the “Pure” versions. And I've been wondering this for a while... So here is the question: Definitively, how many versions of “Pure” are there? Someone must know, I hope!  -Taylor P.S.- What's in the K2HD version of “Pure”? There isn't any sub-board for it, or any posts at all that I could find. I'm thinking about maybe getting it for my birthday author Hi, I do not have that K2...version, because i read somewhere it was not an official or genuine one.... I'm not sure if i have all the Pure versions, but here is a summary.... PURE New Zealand Casette tape. PURE New Zealand (first release) PURE New Zealand Special editon 2cd PURE Australian edition PURE Australian Special edition (2cd) PURE UK, first release. PURE UK special edition (2cd) PURE Special Asian edition Korea PURE /with bonus VCD Hong Kong PURE Special Asian Edition Malaysia PURE Special Asian edition Singapore PURE Japanese PURE Taiwanese PURE Germany (473 300-2) PURE Germany (473 300-2(-18)) Volvic/Air New Zealand PURE USA 28947 518020 PURE USA D152577 (different Barcode) (I'm missing the Chinese one ) Greetz Joyce It's so many, it might as well be all of them!  i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by comet on Apr 2, 2012 10:38:01 GMT
On the subject of "Super Quality", Remastered and Gold Disc type releases. If people pay twice the price for a CD they will happily convince themselves it is of higher quality than the plebeian version. They will also convince themselves their oxygen free copper speaker cables have a special sonic quality..and perhaps other magical but un-provable qualities which only they can hear (this is what defines them as pure bred audiophiles  ) EMI took advantage of this in the early days of CD sales with GOLD DISC versions of various albums by Pink Floyd and David Bowie at more than twice the price of the standard CD. I don't have any of them so I couldn't tell you if they are any better or not. The packaging was quite flashy with lots of shiny gold foil high quality printing more suited to the expensive end of the perfume market where the box and the bottle presentation is everything. I am a little skeptical about the qualities of the SHM-CD format used for Hayley's Japanese releases, (I will happily convince myself it is better quality :2fun: because it suits me sir !) BUT ! there are certainly very different qualities of basic plastics available to make the discs with. UV resistance and the plastics "Memory" which makes it want to return to the shape of the blob it was originally formed from, causing shrinkage or deformations in one direction or another. But for the small amount of plastic involved in making a cd it does not justify the substantial increase in price BUT price and value are two different things. |
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Post by pjrcorreia on Apr 2, 2012 21:14:30 GMT
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Post by Bamafan on Apr 2, 2012 21:46:38 GMT
AAAARRRRGGGHHH! Will I ever know if this is a fake? Btw, looks lovely. Does it sound better than the regular Pure like they say?
-Taylor
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Post by comet on Apr 3, 2012 9:11:52 GMT
Thanks Paulo. so they are individually numbered, which makes them quite collectable I sincerely doubt HMV would be involved in selling "Fake" products, surely not. |
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Post by pjrcorreia on Apr 3, 2012 21:46:20 GMT
AAAARRRRGGGHHH! Will I ever know if this is a fake? Btw, looks lovely. Does it sound better than the regular Pure like they say? -Taylor Hi Taylor, It may sound better than the regular CD, but I can't hear much difference!  Best wishes, Paulo Correia |
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Post by comet on Apr 4, 2012 9:22:47 GMT
 Ooooooooppppssssss, my mouse seems to have gone and ordered one, bold little mouse
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Post by Dave on Apr 4, 2012 10:45:21 GMT
I am still unconvinced.
It says "K2HD mastering" and yet, K2HD mastering doesn't seem to have become available until 2007, so how can Pure (recorded in 2002/3) have been so mastered? And most CDs are made from copies of the master recordings anyway.
The audio fidelity of production CDs of any kind will be no better than the quality of its master, but if people want to take a chance on it for other reasons, that is of course entirely up to them. This is all very strange.
Dave
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Post by grant on Apr 4, 2012 11:06:26 GMT
Hi Dave
Problem is, these so called 'special' CD's look so good and the people that produce them are getting better at convincing the average punter that they are genuine. I have purchased a couple of fakes in the past unknowingly at the time and the packaging is innovative and attractive although the actual CD's are rubbish and don't even contain what the artwork suggests.
It would be interesting to know what Decca/Universal would make of all this.
Cheers
Grant
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Post by Martin on Apr 4, 2012 12:22:58 GMT
Hi Dave & All
Perhaps they really mean "Digital Remastering" rather than "K2HD mastering".
Martin
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Post by stevemacdonald on Apr 4, 2012 12:38:17 GMT
The version of "Pure" that never was and never will be, but if it were would rank supreme over everything else, including K2 HD: Analog Direct-to-Disc on vinyl. Now THAT would be priceless. So much was lost when they abandoned analog. We shall never know just how exceptional "Pure" would've sounded in that format.
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Post by grant on Apr 4, 2012 12:38:57 GMT
Hi Dave & All
Perhaps they really mean "https://i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifigital Remastering" rather than "K2HD mastering".
Martin If I understand Dave correctly, they would still need the original master discs for digital remastering Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Martin on Apr 4, 2012 13:08:01 GMT
Hi Grant, Dave and All! At the risk of exceeding my knowledge, an original cd based on the original master would have been of inferior quality simply because cd's are produced to meet the quality of customer playing equipment available at the time. As this quality improved then digital remastering became a popular method of improving the quality of cd's as well as selling more cd's. So, yes, digital remastering does still use the original master but is still probably not up to the quality of the master. Confused yet? I think I am! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifCheers Martin |
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Frank has tweeted the link to a review of K2 HD - all double dutch to me
