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Post by Libby on Jan 3, 2013 0:34:11 GMT
Well, each film at least got a few awards, so they didn't completely lose out. I'm still horrified that a silly kids' movie song won over May it Be; I'll never get over that! LOL Into the West was extra special, though. It was partly written for a friend/co-worker of theirs who died of cancer.  I'm not counting on The Hobbit winning every category it's nominated for, but I'm hoping for at least best original score and best cinematography (even if some people did get ill, but that's not their fault; some people are just more prone to it than others!), and hopefully some of the other technical ones, and maybe some costume and make-up awards. I don't suppose Neil Finn's song would win over a Les Miz song.  I haven't heard the LM song, although I know the title, Suddenly. It's nominated for a Golden Globe, so I'm sure it will be for the Oscar's, too. The issue with the best-supporting actors in the Tolkien films, is that it's the story that is the true star, even though the actors are really good. It's just that people are going to see it based more on the story they've read, but nowadays it's partly based on how much they liked the LOTR films, as well. And of course now the fans all love the actors in it, so you never know. I personally think there should be some sort of award for Andy Serkis for his outstanding performances. My favorite tracks on the soundtrack so far are The Misty Mountains by the dwarves, Song of the Lonely Mountain by Neil Finn, and the one called "Over Hill", because that's the only one I've found that contains the main theme in its full glory. Of course the main theme is played throughout the film, but some of the times it's faster and more adventurous sounding, but here it's like it was in the original trailer. I haven't listened to the entire album yet. I think I'll have to be more familiar with what's going on during which song before I really get into it. Which means I have to watch it a bunch of times.  |
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Post by Richard on Jan 3, 2013 8:33:44 GMT
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Post by Libby on Jan 4, 2013 5:56:13 GMT
Yes, and be sure to get the special edition. The extra tracks are definitely worth it, and Bilbo is right on the first page when you open it, along with other nice photos, and an interesting write-up on the music used in the soundtrack (by the guy who wrote The Music of the Lord of the Rings, Doug Adams).
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Post by Richard on Jan 9, 2013 9:10:15 GMT
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 10, 2013 14:38:02 GMT
Libby, I must admit, I imagine the people running the Oscars crying tears of rage when they have to give awards to things that aren't totally pretentious twaddle Which is why films that are 'merely' great stories get overlooked so often, I am sure! *** Richard, Thanks for the links  |
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Post by Libby on Jan 11, 2013 5:58:15 GMT
Libby, I must admit, I imagine the people running the Oscars crying tears of rage when they have to give awards to things that aren't totally pretentious twaddle Which is why films that are 'merely' great stories get overlooked so often, I am sure! *** Richard, Thanks for the links Unfortunately, there won't be many awards to give out to the Hobbit. They are only nominated for 3!!  Not even original score or adapted screenplay!!!  I am soooo mad!!! It was not a good start to my day! I saw the [major] nominations on GMA during breakfast. They are nominated for Hair & Makeup, Visual, and Sound. No cinematography, though!! I saw an article that quoted PJ as saying he wasn't really expecting many nominations/awards (this said before the nominations), but he's always disappointed that Andy Serkis is never awarded for the great work he does with all the outstanding motion capture roles he's done, Gollum in particular, of course. Unfortunately he's not in the next 2 movies! |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 11, 2013 15:47:54 GMT
I like reading the Oscar noms for a laugh these days, honestly, Libby. I'd get annoyed, too, if I took them at all seriously, but they just have no credibility whatsoever in my eyes. The major awards are not really for ALL films, only those the Academy think come from 'proper' genres. It doesn't seem to matter to them how amazing someone's acting skills are, how hard the performance was, how incredible the film... Treat the Oscars as a yearly comedy event and you'll get a lot more out of them, believe me! |
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Post by Libby on Jan 11, 2013 21:36:54 GMT
Yeah, I rarely even pay attention to the show. But with the Hobbit I was very concerned. But seriously, how could The Hobbit not be nominated for adapted screenplay?? That's what it is, for goodness' sake! Part of my hope for the movies to be nominated has to do with the music, the song, and the singer. This was one of the motivations for getting Hayley to sing for the soundtrack on one of them, so she could sing on the show like Enya and Annie Lennox did. But, if Hayley does get to be on either of the next 2 soundtracks, it will still be a huge thing, even if her song isn't nominated. Anyway, if she does manage to be on it, it may only be background vocals. In that case, it would be part of the original score, I guess. I was really hoping to hear Song of the Lonely Mountain performed on the show, even if I didn't expect it to win. The next movie in particular should be pretty exciting, what with the spiders, wood-elves, Smaug drangon, etc. The first one had exciting parts, too, but I think the spiders will be better than the trolls, that's for sure. And the wood-elves should be more interesting than the Rivendell stuff (apart from the "green food" part, that was great). And Bilbo's encounter with Smaug should be at least as good as the one with Gollum. I hope. I'm reading the end of The Hobbit now, and trying to figure out what the last movie will be like. Other than the battle, it doesn't seem like there'll be a lot of action. And I wonder if they made Thorin really pick up Bilbo and shake him "like a rabbit". LOL I know they'll make him be really mad, of course, but they haven't been entirely accurate so far, so you never know. I thought it was a slightly amusing part, even if it was really mean of Thorin. I want them to include this part, so Gandalf can tell Thorin not to "damage him". LOL |
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Post by Libby on Jan 11, 2013 22:57:31 GMT
So, actually one of the categories was Art direction. I really hope they win all of them, but the way things are going, they'll be lucky to win any!  |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 12, 2013 0:32:56 GMT
I suspect they'll do what they did with LotR and hold their noses with the third film, giving it Best Picture on grounds that if they don't reward ONE of them they'll be a laughing stock. Well, MORE of a laughing stock! I have no hope at all for Hobbit films ever getting any Best Actor noms, though. The Academy just seems to have no clue how hard some of that stuff is. Sean Astin in LotR managed to speak in a thick West Country accent throughout all three films and only once, in one line, did I notice it wasn't his real voice. His performance throughout was great. I'm always torn between him and Elijah Wood, who put in an incredibly subtle but powerful performance throughout - also perfectly mimicking an accent not his own throughout. Elijah sounds just like any well-educated Englishman, instead of the American he is. The fact that neither ever got so much as a single nom is beyond ridiculous. Not that some of the others were that far behind, but those two in particular impressed me in a totally stellar cast. (For that matter, I think it's criminal that Christian Bale didn't get a nod for Batman this year. Perfect performance throughout with a pitch perfect American accent. As a Brit, he sounds nothing like that out of the role). I'm always impressed when someone puts in a great performance in a totally different accent to their usual But, Hobbitses... The spiders will be creepy as heck judging from Shelob in LotR (I thought I was going to have nightmares when she snuck up on Frodo like that! ), and hopefully Smaug will be utterly amazing. I have confidence in WETA - they've been amazing so far - but Smaug will need to be an utter masterpiece, especially in the conversations with Bilbo. I always rather liked Thorin. He's flawed, but he's trying to do his best by his people. He's just far too stubborn for his good or theirs. Battle of Five Armies will be something else again, though! REALLY looking forward to that! |
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Post by Libby on Jan 12, 2013 1:37:15 GMT
Well, I read the book 4 years ago, and I haven't gotten to the battle yet.
Yes, I like Thorin, too. But poor Bilbo! LOL It's so much nicer to read the book when you can imagine the characters better. I'm afraid I imagined the dwarves more like the 7 dwarves (which is kind of how they looked in the cartoon), and they look so much better in the movie. Especially Thorin, he looked dwarvish without looking ridiculous, and he also looked heroic. I think they were trying to attract the Aragorn fans, maybe? LOL
If they stick to the dialogue of the book, shouldn't the Smaug scene be good enough? That was my only problem with the Gollum scene. They changed things around. The buttons part was in the wrong place, and there were no goblins about in the passageway when Bilbo was escaping. Plus they left out a riddle or 2, but that's not a big deal.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 12, 2013 15:33:47 GMT
If they stick to the book, the Smaug scenes should all be amazing, yeah. I remember genuinely being scared for Bilbo the first time I read them!
No goblins trying to catch Bilbo in the tunnels? That sucks! That really wound the tension higher in the book.
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Post by Libby on Jan 13, 2013 5:41:34 GMT
Well, he did encounter some goblins before he fell to Gollum's pit (LOL), but that was not accurate to the book. He did no sword-fighting. Also, the troll scene was way off, although it was still funny. I'm really counting on PJ & team to get all the scenes in the next ones right, in particular the spider and Smaug scenes. I'm sure there'll be a lot of extra stuff that from the appendices in the last one. Bilbo's return to the Shire should be funny, too. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 13, 2013 6:47:10 GMT
Heh. Yeah. "Hey! Stop selling my stuff!" |
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Post by Richard on Jan 16, 2013 8:24:39 GMT
I've already mentioned in the Official Charts News thread that the soundtrack to 'The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey' is up at No.2 in this week's Classic FM Chart (13 January 2013). I can now add that 'My Dear Frodo' from the soundtrack is a non-mover at No.8 in the Official UK Classical Singles Chart for week ending 19 January 2013. www.officialcharts.com/official-classical-singles-chart/Richard  |
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I haven't heard the LM song, although I know the title, Suddenly. It's nominated for a Golden Globe, so I'm sure it will be for the Oscar's, too.
Not even original score or adapted screenplay!!! 
I am soooo mad!!! It was not a good start to my day! I saw the [major] nominations on GMA during breakfast. 