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Post by dutchjoyce on Jul 6, 2007 21:59:33 GMT
Hey Stephany,.........if you want to go to NZ,and want to visit
Australia, you need more than 3 weeks.My opinion is to take 2 weeks for the north island and 2 weeks for the south island.On your way to Nz, you can take a stop over in Singapore or Kuala Lumpur, you can do the same on your way back.In that case you are travelling at least 4 days, and there is nothing left for a visit to Australia.My husband and I went for 6 weeks....we have seen at lot of Nz, most of the higlights.Today i got news from my cousin and his wife.They became parents,for the first time!.So now i have i reason to go back to this wonderfull country, to see their new born babygirl!!!greetz Joyce.
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Post by postscript on Jul 6, 2007 22:08:05 GMT
Post #43 Thomas. Christchurch looks a really lovely city. I love trams. I shall ride them all day!
Peter S.
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Post by Gene on Jul 6, 2007 23:13:05 GMT
Post #43 Thomas. Christchurch looks a really lovely city. I love trams. I shall ride them all day! Peter S. Hi Thomas, as Peter states above, your photos reveal how beautiful Christchurch really is. Is all of the city this clean? Do you know what type of crime rate the city has? I certainly hope that I get to visit the country some day. Best, Gene |
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Post by grant on Jul 6, 2007 23:23:56 GMT
Post #43 Thomas. Christchurch looks a really lovely city. I love trams. I shall ride them all day! Peter S. Hi Peter! Trams are just great aren't they? We have one of the best tramway museums in the world only about 20 minutes drive from me at a village called Crich, but I digress. Christchurch is probably unique as it is, to the best of my knowledge, the only city in the world to have discarded its trams and then built a brand new heritage line into the heart of the city!! You can find out more about the Christchurch system and its trams HERE Oh!! and by the way, you MUST take the tram tour. Enjoy!! More superb pictures by the way Thomas!! Keep 'em coming! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by postscript on Jul 7, 2007 8:47:37 GMT
Post #43 Thomas. Christchurch looks a really lovely city. I love trams. I shall ride them all day! Peter S. Hi Thomas, as Peter states above, your photos reveal how beautiful Christchurch really is. Is all of the city this clean? Do you know what type of crime rate the city has? I certainly hope that I get to visit the country some day. Best, Gene In another thread under a title I now forget--perhaps to do with visiting NZ, I recorded a visit to NZ House in London--just off the Haymarket.and Pall Mall. There you can look at the NZ papers and at that time I recorded that the NZ national press looked like our provincial press in layout and size and that crime was the major headline. On that occasion three irresponsible youths under-age for driving had stolen a car, driven it through heavy traffic recklessly and ended up smashing three cars, seriously injuring two people and kiling one. Not much change from here! The statistic I suspect you are seeking is percentage of criminals to population and it may or may not be lower than here (UK or USA)--I doubt it could be higher. I suppose it came as partly a shock at the incident itself but also a sense of disappointment that even NZ has crime. That may seem an absurd thing to write but somehow one thinks so benevolently of NZ that one does not expect to find it sullied like elsewhere. In particular I am one who does not understand, to the point of despair, why any western country has crime at all. When you have everything materially, combined with opportunity to acquire lawfully, there simply is not any excuse. It is one of the reasons I have some sympathy with Islam and certain aspects of Shariah law--but then others would describe me as the old-fashioned 'hang 'em and flog 'em' brigade! As I mentioned earlier in another thread some few days back regarding smoking. It is now illegal to smoke in enclosed public spaces whereas, once upon a time, it was a matter of simple courtesy that one did not smoke unless one enquired of those around one as to whether it inconvenieced them. Now its the law instead of social convention that one doesn't smoke, so depraved has our society become! I suspect New Zealanders are much more respectful of good manners while, perhaps perveresely, being more outspoken and saying what they mean more directly--rather like the Australlians. Probably something to do with them both being former penal colonies!  Looking at that point seriously, it is an interesting contradiction that with their history they are so law-abiding! Now, does that mean penal colonies worked, or having created a nice society through being in nice surroundings, one wants to retain and live up to what one has created? Peter S. |
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Post by postscript on Jul 7, 2007 8:51:56 GMT
Thanks for that about the trams, Grant.
Peter S.
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Post by tonyw on Jul 7, 2007 9:53:00 GMT
Hi
When I visited Christchurch last year, The Guide said there was very little serious crime on The South Island. We were told that most crime was in Auckland. Although I did not see any evidence when I visited there.
Christchurch is described as " The most English city outside England". I believe the city was founded by The Church of England, hence the term Canterbury Plains of which it is part. One would therefore think their descendants would be law abiding.
It is certainly a "laid back" place, nobody is in a hurry and the residents would want to know where you came from and did you know their relatives back in the UK!
Tony
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Post by Belinda on Jul 7, 2007 12:03:02 GMT
Hi Peter, The way you talk about New Zealand crime in this thread and another a while ago,you try to make it sound worse than it is. we also have rain like everyone else in the world  Where did those convicts come from Belinda |
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Post by postscript on Jul 7, 2007 12:43:10 GMT
Hi Peter, The way you talk about New Zealand crime in this thread and another a while ago,you try to make it sound worse than it is. we also have rain like everyone else in the world Where did those convicts come from Belinda Hi Belinda. It is not so much that I am trying to make it sound worse than it is but that we are trying to assess the extent of it. My emphasise has been that even 'Paradise' has crime in so far as we here regard NZ so well and so favourably. As regards your last comment, I can only say, 'Hi there... COUSIN! Further, in my usual way, I illustrate or compare the microcosm with the macrcosom and extend the singular into the plural of the wider world. Here (on this Forum) we revel in all delightful things because our core interest, Hayley, is such a delight. Inevitably, especially travelling the world as she does, we interact with the rest of the world, not all of which is as nice as it could be. We do not pass by on the other side but throw in our ha'penceworth as to what could be done about it. Peter S. PS: I shall be mentioning the (excess) rain in due course under the NZ Goodies thread! |
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Post by postscript on Jul 7, 2007 12:51:19 GMT
Hi When I visited Christchurch last year...Christchurch is described as " The most English city outside England". I believe the city was founded by The Church of England... Tony I wonder if that is a reason for Hayley feeling at home here, she knows England instinctively through being 'born here'! London, after all, isn't so much a city (other than the square mile) but a series of cities (City of London, City of Westminster) towns and villages, each area with its own character but retaining the closeness you do not normally associate with a vast metropolis. Peter S. |
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Post by tonyw on Jul 8, 2007 10:15:30 GMT
Hi Peter, Where did those convicts come from Belinda Hi Belinda I think Peter is referring to "The Parkhurst Boys". They were teenage boys from Parkhust Prison on The Isle of Wight, UK. They were sent in two ships in 1842/43 to Auckland. You can read more about it here homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tonyf/parkhurstboys/convicts4.html Tony |
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Post by Belinda on Jul 8, 2007 10:45:10 GMT
Hi Tony, Thanks i did a bit research my self last night , yes there were only 2 ships of them ever sent pre 1849. Hardly enough to call it a penal colony. Actually i really knew where the convicts came from the UK,  Now i think we better go back to what the threads for, Not the history of NZ but the scenery as seen through Thomas's eyes. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifBelinda |
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Post by postscript on Jul 8, 2007 11:09:13 GMT
Hi Peter, Where did those convicts come from Belinda Hi Belinda I think Peter is referring to "The Parkhurst Boys". They were teenage boys from Parkhust Prison on The Isle of Wight, UK. They were sent in two ships in 1842/43 to Auckland. You can read more about it here homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tonyf/parkhurstboys/convicts4.html Tony Interesting response Tony/Belinda. I had interpreted Belinda's response as pointing the accusing finger 'Look at who's calling the kettle black?', meaning she knew they came from the UK, not that she was taking exception to NZ being 'cloned in' wirth Australia's convict background. Parkhurst was admittedly an exception in NZ's history. Peter S. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2007 20:05:54 GMT
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