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Post by Susan on Jan 24, 2005 20:46:35 GMT
Oh My Gosh!!!!!!!! Eeeeeeeeekk!! Why am I screaming? Because...
Just today, in the mail, I received the long-awaited DVD of Hayley Westenra's concert which was broadcast on PBS stations in the USA, in December 2004. The name of the DVD is "Hayley Westenra: Live from New Zealand." It is a recording of a live concert which Hayley gave in the middle of August, 2004 in Wellington, New Zealand. (Incidentally, I could not find this video title anywhere at Amazon.com, nor at Barnes & Noble, so I acquired it as a "pledge-gift", by dint of making a generous contribution to Channel Thirteen-PBS in NYC.)
Now, I had already seen this concert on the TV special "Great Performances" as it was broadcast during Channel Thirteen's pledge week, and my very kind nephew in New York City had recorded the program for me on videotape.
HOWEVER... HOWEVER... What I did not know last month when I first viewed the videotaped television broadcast was the fact that the actual DVD contains TWO bonus tracks which were omitted from that television broadcast (due to time constraints).
The bonus tracks are: Never Say Goodbye, ***AND*** (are you ready to hear this?) --
The other song is called Aria (Cantilena), and it is the vocalise taken from Bachianas Brasileiras No. 5 by Heitor Villa-Lobos!!!!!!!!
Do you guys remember that on another thread on this board several months ago, I said that I would absolutely melt if Hayley might ever sing Bachianas Brasileiras No. 5 (!)? I just simply made that suggestion, thinking that the possibility of it ever actually coming about was quite remote! I did not think, at that time, that this vocal piece (Aria) was ever part of Hayley's current repertoire! Back several months ago, when I mentioned this song, no one here on the board ever told me that Hayley had done it. Had she ever done it before?? I mean, before she recorded this concert DVD? Has she ever sung it in the UK? Have any of you out there ever HEARD her sing this? It is gorgeous beyond description.
Well... I guess that this DVD shows us that indeed, this piece is already part of Hayley's repertoire, and I've just really GOT to tell you that she does a MAGNIFICENT job with it -- just as I imagined that she would! This afternoon, the first time that I heard her sing this piece on the DVD, I quite nearly fell off my chair! Furthermore... okay, I confess... I'm a very emotional person... but this vocalise is sooooo incredibly breathtaking that I found myself in a pool of tears! Happy, happy, happy tears!
GO Hayley!!!!!!!!! You are amazing, Hayley!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A question for all you tekkies out there... Keith? Gerrit? Is there some way in which one might convert only just the audio portion of the DVD into a computer audio file so that a sound clip could be shared with other fans on the Hayley International website? I don't know whether or not this DVD is available in Europe? If you have it, could you make a clip of this song? The DVD which I have says that it is video format NTSC and Region Code 1.
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Post by HWI on Jan 24, 2005 21:28:06 GMT
Hi Susan, Aren't we little terrors? We knew about the difference between the broadcast version and the DVD before it first aired on PBS. But, we kept that a secret. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif The reason - so that you would get a pleasant surprise when you got the DVD. As for ripping the soundtrack from the DVD, or even a part of it, that is something we can't discuss on the forum because of the potential for copyright infringement. PBS spent a lot of money organising the whole thing, sending a crew to NZ, engaging loads of people in NZ to make the recording, and then the post production work. Therefore, it is quite understandable that they are very jealous of the copyright status on these things. The other side of it is - I have no idea whether it can be done or not. You would need a technician, or at least someone of above average understanding, in these things. Should anyone wish to answer Susan on this, please do not post on the forum. Send her a PM. Any post to any board on the forum which is on the subject of a potential copyright infringement will be deleted immediately I see it. Also, because of the TOS for having this board, if I did not act in such a way and was reported to Proboards, they would delete the forum in it's entirety as soon as they checked up on it. Sorry, but that is the way it has to be. Keith. |
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Post by Susan on Jan 25, 2005 2:54:31 GMT
Any post to any board on the forum which is on the subject of a potential copyright infringement will be deleted immediately I see it. Also, because of the TOS for having this board, if I did not act in such a way and was reported to Proboards, they would delete the forum in it's entirety as soon as they checked up on it. Keith, I do understand (and I totally agree) about our need to avoid any potential for copyright infringements, and it was certainly *NEVER* my wish to encourage any illegal activity of any sort. I have the utmost respect for Hayley and for Universal Music Group, and I would never want to do anything to "rob" them of their rightful financial recompense for all the hard work that they do. I'm afraid that I apparently misunderstood, imagining that tiny little clips would serve to promote Hayley and to promote/increase the sales of her DVD as well as her albums, and I did NOT regard any clips as having the potential to be utilised as a "substitute" for the purchased retail product. I guess perhaps I was misled or confused by the fact that the Hayley Westenra International web server already does contain several audio clips (very short snippets) of tracks from three of Hayley's albums, as well as a tiny little clip of "Con Te Partira". Are those clips housed over there not provided for Internet users with the "blessings" of Hayley's management? Are they not there simply to persuade computer users to run to the store and buy the albums from which these clips came? When does it constitute copyright infringement, and when does it not? |
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Post by Joe on Jan 25, 2005 4:47:45 GMT
I'm so glad that you have the DVD. I also pledged for Hayley to a PBS station; I donated over $250 (£526) and my pledge gift was four tickets for her tour in May. Well worth it! I plan to get the DVD eventually when the PBS store website offers it.
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Post by Susan on Jan 25, 2005 11:55:55 GMT
I did not think, at that time, that this vocal piece (Aria) was ever part of Hayley's current repertoire! Back several months ago, when I mentioned this song, no one here on the board ever told me that Hayley had done it. Had she ever done it before?? I mean, before she recorded this concert DVD? Has she ever sung it in the UK? Have any of you out there ever HEARD her sing this? It is gorgeous beyond description. Hi, again. Nobody actually ever answered the above question. I just posed it out of curiosity... I'm just wondering... since, Hayley sang Aria on August 15, 2004 before a sold-out audience in Wellington, NZ... could I assume that she performed it onstage before? Or, was the Wellington concert her premiere presentation of that song? Might she have previously performed it in Europe? I've never seen her in concert. Many of you (across the sea) have. What has been her "typical" song list in most of the concerts which you have attended? Do you think that her "Pure Tour" in North America will feature ONLY the songs found on the Pure album? Or, might we get some of the songs seen and heard on the DVD? (Keeping my fingers crossed...) |
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Post by Susan on Jan 25, 2005 12:17:18 GMT
...my pledge gift was four tickets for her tour in May. Joe, Good for you!!! Which TV station was providing tickets as pledge gifts? Was it the station in Allentown, PA? I know that they are having a private concert for pledges only on April 29th, is that right? Are there other stations which are doing a similar thing? I haven't heard about any others. |
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Post by Dave on Jan 25, 2005 19:50:53 GMT
Hi, again. Nobody actually ever answered the above question. I just posed it out of curiosity... I'm just wondering... since, Hayley sang Aria on August 15, 2004 before a sold-out audience in Wellington, NZ... could I assume that she performed it onstage before? Or, was the Wellington concert her premiere presentation of that song? Might she have previously performed it in Europe? I've never seen her in concert. Many of you (across the sea) have. What has been her "typical" song list in most of the concerts which you have attended? Do you think that her "Pure Tour" in North America will feature ONLY the songs found on the Pure album? Or, might we get some of the songs seen and heard on the DVD? (Keeping my fingers crossed...) Hi Susan, I don't think anyone was ignoring you, we probably just don't know the answers! I certainly haven't heard Hayley perform this song in either of her 2004 UK tours or the other few occasions I've seen her perform. I have heard her vocalise before though... on Pokarakare Ana (video/vocalise version) of course and in Bridal Ballad - I can well imagine she would do a wonderful job singing the Villa-Lobos aria. In fact, I'm getting quite excited at the prospect of hearing it one day! For now, I'll have to imagine it based on what other singers have done - clips available on these legal  links: Victoria de los Angeles or the poor man's Hayley... Renee Fleming i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifI'm fascinated to know how much of this 6 minute plus piece Hayley does... the first bit (well under 3 minutes) or all three sections? As for the Spring and Summer tours, well she will now be doing a few concerts here in the UK, too, and I am hoping she will perform at least a few songs from her new album as "tasters". By then, she should have a good idea what's to be included and what's not. Who knows... perhaps Aria (Cantilena) will be one of them? I hope so! You lucky person you, a nice shiny Hayley DVD to watch and listen to while all most of us can do is wait patiently for its general release (we hope!)  Cheers, Dave PS: You are welcome to send a private message at any time, if you would like any 'technical' information that can't readily be covered in the forum... |
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Post by roger on Jan 25, 2005 20:31:41 GMT
Hi, again. Nobody actually ever answered the above question. I just posed it out of curiosity... I'm just wondering... since, Hayley sang Aria on August 15, 2004 before a sold-out audience in Wellington, NZ... could I assume that she performed it onstage before? Or, was the Wellington concert her premiere presentation of that song? Might she have previously performed it in Europe? I've never seen her in concert. Many of you (across the sea) have. What has been her "typical" song list in most of the concerts which you have attended? Hi Susan, As far as I know, Hayley has never sung Aria in concert before – certainly not in the UK. However, I may be able to help with her typical song list as I have attended a few of her concerts (18 actually!). So, here is a list of every song that she sang at all of them….. Amnesty International Concert Trafalgar Square, London - 6 December 2003 Away In A Manger Silent Night Jose Carreras Concert Royal Albert Hall, London - 10 December 2003 Ave Maria (Schubert) (duet with Jose Carreras) Amazing Grace O Holy Night Mary Did You Know? Pokarekare Ana The Little Drummer Boy (duet with Jose Carreras) All I Ask Of You (duet with Jose Carreras) Silent Night (duet with Jose Carreras) Sargent Cancer Care Christmas Concert Royal Albert Hall, London - 12 December 2003 White Christmas Away In A Manger Pokarekare Ana PURE TOUR: Northampton - 20 March 2004 Cardiff - 28 March 2004 London Palladium - 29 March 2004 Eastbourne - 31 March 2004 Bournemouth - 1 April 2004 Sung at all the above: Pokarekare Ana River Of Dreams Beat Of Your Heart Panis Angelicus (duet with Sophie) Dark Waltz All I Ask Of You (duet with Brandon Pou) Who Pained the Moon Black? Never Say Goodbye Mary Did You Know? Across the Universe of Time (duet with Sophie) Hine e Hine (with Katherine Jenkins, Brandon Pou, Sophie and Isaac) Amazing Grace Ave Maria (Schubert) (with Katherine Jenkins and Brandon Pou) Wuthering Heights Sophie and Isaac also performed Greensleeves as a duet at most of the above venues. Classical Brit Awards Royal Albert Hall, London - 26 May 2004 Pokarekare Ana Hampton Court Palace Festival - 19 June 2004 Pokarekare Ana In Trutina River Of Dreams Hine e Hine Rule Brittania Ave Maria (Schubert) WINTER TOUR: Birmingham - 12 November 2004 Cardiff - 13 November 2004 Edinburgh - 15 November 2004 Llandudno - 17 November 2004 Northampton - 18 November 2004 Southend - 21 November 2004 Manchester - 22 November 2004 Sung at all of the above unless otherwise stated: Amazing Grace River Of Dreams Who Painted the Moon Black? Mary Did You Know? In Trutina Beat Of Your Heart Wiegenlied Never Say Goodbye (not Manchester) Bridal Ballad Across the Universe of Time Ave Maria (Schubert) Pokarekare Ana Hine e Hine (duet with Mario Frangoulis) Ave Maria (Bach) (duet with Holly Holyoake – Llandudno only) UNICEF Concert Canada House, London - 23 November 2004 Pokarekare Ana River Of Dreams Ave Maria (Schubert) Both Sides Now (Guitar accompaniment only by Giles Martin) Amazing Grace (unaccompanied) Beat Of Your Heart Wiegenlied In Trutina Hine e Hine (with Mario Frangoulis and Heather Nova) Have I missed anything, Keith?  Roger |
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Post by HWI on Jan 25, 2005 21:22:12 GMT
She has also sung the Welsh National Anthem with Bryn Terfel at the Faenol Festival on 24th August 2003 an, also, with Katherine Jenkins at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff (can't remember the date for that off hand). She did these in Welsh, of course. Apart from that, I think you've got the lot.  Keith. |
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Post by Susan on Jan 25, 2005 22:01:09 GMT
Hmmmm... I'm thinking about this one... Tell me, *HOW* did you know about the difference between the broadcast version and the DVD version of the New Zealand concert? Did you have a chance to *preview* the DVD itself, before the concert ever "hit" the American television airwaves? Does this mean that the North American version of the DVD (video format NTSC and Region Code 1) is actually **NOT** the very first DVD version of this concert film to be distributed in the world? Was this concert video previously released in Australia or New Zealand and/or the UK -- digitally encoded using a different Region Code? Or... (conversely) are you folks in the "Mother Country" being left "out in the cold", so to speak? I mean, are we "Yankees" over here the only ones to whom this DVD is currently being distributed? I also find it just a tad annoying that the DVD is being kept under such tight lock-and-key here in the USA. I mean, it is not even yet available in Thirteen/WNET's own online store, and it's certainly not to be found at retail establishments. Currently, it is only available as a PBS station pledge-gift. This situation surprises me greatly, because... a similar program which was likewise filmed and produced by WNET ( Josh Groban Live at the Greek) already hit the retail store shelves around the same time that it was broadcast on television. I think that Hayley's management is terribly limiting her exposure and her marketability by permitting WNET and Decca to so greatly delay the release of this product to merchants nationwide. At the present time, the only people in America who are aware of Hayley's video are the ones who happened to "catch" a glimpse of it on television. And, here again, there were actually so very FEW television stations around the country which carried the broadcast that most people in the USA are completely unaware of its existence. It is really sad that after all that effort on the part of WNET-Channel 13, very few PBS stations aired it. (My local PBS affiliate, for example, did NOT.) Only those who saw the broadcast "might" be moved to make a donation to PBS to acquire the DVD. Yet, others -- perhaps potential consumers of Hayley's music -- do not even have the opportunity to see this magnificent DVD proudly exhibited in some store display case somewhere. Perhaps if the video album cover caught someone's eye... they might pick it up to examine it more closely? It is crazy for Universal Music Group to limit the distribution of this DVD solely to benefactors of PBS. Josh Groban's latest DVD enjoys a marketing approach that is in marked contrast to Hayley's: One can acquire Josh's DVD as a pledge-gift from PBS; one can purchase it in any retail music or video store; one can buy it online at Amazon.com or at bn.com, too. The sales figures for Groban's DVD speak volumes for the advantages of a three-pronged marketing approach. Hayley's team ought to take notice. It is quite ironic that when Thirteen/WNET first aired the programs "Hayley Westenra Live From New Zealand" and "Josh Groban Live at The Greek," they aired these two episodes of GREAT PERFORMANCES back-to-back. On the night that each of these broadcasts premiered, Hayley's came on at 8:00 PM, followed immediately by Josh's at 9:30 PM. Since that night, the sales figures for Josh's DVD have been phenomenal. But, what of Hayley's DVD? It certainly deserves wider distribution and more publicity! Her DVD is (as of yet) an undiscovered jewel. |
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Post by Dave on Jan 26, 2005 0:00:39 GMT
She has also sung the Welsh National Anthem with Bryn Terfel at the Faenol Festival on 24th August 2003 an, also, with Katherine Jenkins at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff (can't remember the date for that off hand). She did these in Welsh, of course. Apart from that, I think you've got the lot. Keith. That's what you think! Hayley sang the New Zealand National Anthem at the Wales vs. New Zealand Rugby match in... the magnificent Millennium Stadium Cardiff, last November. Katherine Jenkins sang the Welsh National Anthem that time and what a great pairing they made! I thought there was a clip of it on the HWI site but I can't find it there... Gerrit seems to have grabbed it for Katherine's site and it's here. Hayley sung a magnificent rendition of the NZ anthem on a very cold day. This video is well worth watching... and the final scores? NZ won by a whisker: Hayley 26, Katherine 25  Not sure if TV performances count, but Hayley has also sung " No Matter What" in duet with the tone-deaf Frank Skinner... who must be the worst singer Hayley has ever sung with! As he described it himself: "Pure and Sewer". Actually, if you ignore Frank's singing, Hayley sung it beautifully and I love the interview (from December 2003). Hayley seemed remarkably at ease, in view of Frank's usual suggestive remarks - his humour actually seemed to settle her in the same way the Pro-Sieben interviewer Stefan Raab did, a few months ago. I've just captured a re-run of the Frank Skinner interview and uploaded it to my personal webspace... which I will leave there for a couple of days. Keith. Gerrit, anyone... if you'd like it, here it is! (11 minutes, 22MB) It's a fantastic llist from Roger though... plenty of ideas there for the new album! |
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Post by gareth on Jan 26, 2005 21:11:47 GMT
Ehhh, there are a few people I would like to quote here from recent messages.
First of all , Dave's message.
Yes, on November 20, 2004, there was a rugby match between Wales and NZ, with Hayley singing the NZ anthem and Katherine singing the Welsh anthem - and I must say, Katherine's performance was a stunning one too. (By the way, the NZ and Welsh anthems do happen to be my personal favourites). Of course, the video was captured by ... Dave. I had also digitised the performance, but I thought Dave's was better quality. I had grabbed it for my Hayley video pages on the Russell Watson Hayley Westenra Group on MSN - and when I started Katherine-Jenkins-International, I thought it would be most appropriate there as well!
Secondly, Keith's remark about Hayley singing the Welsh anthem with Katherine. That also happened, and I do remember the date! That happened on March 27, 2004. I think that Wales were playing Italy that day, and Wales won. Katherine refers to that in her Woman's Hour interview. Now, March 27 was the Saturday before Hayley and Katherine performed at St. David's Hall on March 28. It was the famous weekend where a lot of people got together and were treated to an impromptu performance by Holly Holyoake outside the stage entrance of St David's Hall.
Now, when in November Hayley and Katherine opposed each other, a right royal battle ensued between their respective rugby teams - if that scoreline is anything to go by, Katherine is certainly to be going places in the future. But way back in March, those poor Italians - no wonder they lost against the combined onslaught of Wales (Katherine) and NZ (Hayley) ....
Anyway, i think that duet between Hayley and Katherine is also available somewher on HWI. I am going to hunt for it, and then I will be adding ot to KJI as well ...
Cheers,
Gerrit
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Post by gareth on Jan 26, 2005 22:02:38 GMT
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Post by HWI on Jan 26, 2005 23:06:53 GMT
Hmmmm... I'm thinking about this one... Tell me, *HOW* did you know about the difference between the broadcast version and the DVD version of the New Zealand concert? That's an easy one. There had been discussion about this elsewhere. Don't ask me exactly where now, I couldn't possibly remember. But, we did know about the difference. Well, at least I did.  Did you have a chance to *preview* the DVD itself, before the concert ever "hit" the American television airwaves? No. Does this mean that the North American version of the DVD (video format NTSC and Region Code 1) is actually **NOT** the very first DVD version of this concert film to be distributed in the world? No. The US version is the only one. Or... (conversely) are you folks in the "Mother Country" being left "out in the cold", so to speak? I mean, are we "Yankees" over here the only ones to whom this DVD is currently being distributed? Yes! I also find it just a tad annoying that the DVD is being kept under such tight lock-and-key here in the USA. I mean, it is not even yet available in Thirteen/WNET's own online store, and it's certainly not to be found at retail establishments. Currently, it is only available as a PBS station pledge-gift. That's the way PBS decided to do things. This situation surprises me greatly, because... a similar program which was likewise filmed and produced by WNET ( Josh Groban Live at the Greek) already hit the retail store shelves around the same time that it was broadcast on television. I think that Hayley's management is terribly limiting her exposure and her marketability by permitting WNET and Decca to so greatly delay the release of this product to merchants nationwide. It has absolutely nothing to do with Hayley's management, or Decca. That was the package from PBS. It's theirs. They paid for it. They own it. The decision has clearly been taken by PBS that the DVD will not become available until they have completed the pledge season with it. As for which PBS stations have aired the programme. That is a matter between the PBS stations. Perhaps someone should complain to their local PBS station about NOT showing it and asking them to do so. Otherwise, Susan, as much as we would really like to, we can do nothing about the situation. Nor can Hayley's management, or Decca. This is not a situation we like but, we find this sort of thing happens a lot in the US and we on the other side of the pond NEVER get to see the end results. We still haven't seen the Enchantment "Concert" with Charlotte Church, which was made over here. Must be four years ago now. So, all I can say is that I understand it will go on general release. But, that will be when PBS decide to do so. Sorry, Keith. |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jan 27, 2005 0:01:12 GMT
Hayley and Katherine also sang a wonderful duet of "Hine E Hine" at Joe's Pub last summer. That song is somewhat of an unofficial anthem for Kiwis, is it not?
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