Why do YOU love Hayley's Voice

[mariannek]

jons said:

I think I might be blessed! I always try to explain what I hear when Hayley sings but I can't really explain it so people understand. As an example; on the song 'Sonny' I here a texture on Hayley's whispering vocals; its a bit like a sandpaper being applied really smoothly, I'm sure its Hayley and not the recording but I and can listen to that song (which is a beautiful song.) just to hear that phenomenon and I bet no-one know what I'm on about! I know my hearing's good, maybe I can hear extra subtleties.

When Hayley sings hymns and carols theres a belief in Hayley's voice which I can't describe and has had the effect of bringing me closer to God (I hope its ok to mention that, I've only just plucked up the courage to say it).

Hayley's voice is not one, its many.

I got giddy after hearing the sample to 'Time To Say Goodbye'. Its exciting to hear Hayley sing a new song, more exciting than hearing any other artist sing a new song.

Hi Jon,
I know exactly what you mean. Her worshipful renditions of hymns and christian carols is a a wonderful testimony to her faith in God.
I believe with Andrew that Hayley uses her performances of well known christian material to make a statement and to share her faith with us.
Jon, your tribute to Hayley on gather.com is truly amazing.
Love, Marianne

[mariannek]

milewalker said:

[quote author=andrew board=Miscellaneous thread=1179932939 post=1180107316. I receive a great comfort from listening to Hayley's voice which I know is a God given gift to her which she chooses to share with the world. I'm just SO thankful that Hayley seems to acknowledge her gift and strives to live a lifestyle which is such a great testimony to her God.

Hi Andrew,

I am merely curious about something here. What exactly does Hayley's faith/lifestyle have to do directly with her voice? If she didnt have such a lifestyle, would that mean you would enjoy her less? Wouldnt it still be the same voice?

Speaking personally, I buy her records because I love her voice, and I tend to like much of the music she sings. I do not intend to nominate her for sainthood (after all, however sincere her religious views may be, she has never to my knowledge actually shared them. They are quite likely different from mine anyway., Neither do I intend to vote for her (after all her political positions are quite likely different from mine). Neither do I personally care a whit about her lifestyle, which is entirely her business until and unless she decides to share it.

It might be good to note here, that none of us have ever seen anything but the public face of Hayley. I am not saying this to detract from her in any way - however, because of that fact I see no evidence to draw any conclusions whatsoever.

Jon
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Hi milewalker,
For someone who doesn't want to draw any conclusions about Hayley you have certainly concluded a number of things here :
You love her voice but you don't give a hoot about her life style. Are you sure you would not mind seeing her drunk and on drugs and living an adulterous life and still pay attention to her as a singer? I sure wouldn't !
You can't recollect her attributing her voice to God's gift to her, but you conclude she hasn't done so.
She doesn't need your *Sainthood* vote, she is called a saint by virtue of her faith in Jesus. Scripture calls all Christians saints. Of course one needs to understand the meaning correctly.
Take care, Marianne

[Joe]

jons said:

joe said:

I love Hayley's Voice...

it's watching a sunrise
to welcome in
the summer day

the peal of the church bells
on a snowy
Christmas Eve

the wonder in the eyes
of a child
in deep thought

I like that! Did you write it Joe?

I did, Jon. But inspired by Hayley.

[petertong]

I would almost argue that something mathematical (akin to the Golden Mean, etc.) is going on when I'm listening to Hayley's voice (or Chloe Agnew as well for me). It is just aesthetically pleasing.

I've not come up with anything logically beyond that unfortunately - partly because I do not know exactly *what* part of me is enjoying it. I would also have to understand what "me" is first, before I could have a hope of getting a start on what is going on. Unfortunately there is no way of my knowing "me" aside from this thing called faith. I do believe I exist though, and because of that I also do believe that I enjoy Hayley's (and Chloe's) voice

all the best,
Peter T.

PS: You guys will have to take it in faith that I do exist, if only because of this post LOL...

[postscript]

You raise some very good points Milewalker. As I have commented previously perhaps this 'debate' about Hayley beyond her music and public persona is due to the Hayley-interest when there is not any direct Hayley-activity on which to report.

• It is first her voice--how I came across her like so many hearing that voice for the first time, standing out in splendid isolation as a voice of which one wished to hear more.
  
• Then of course her choice of music, which leads into the wheres and whys as far as she chooses to explain herself.
  
• From that second point one inevitably introduces one's subjective views: the music one would like to hear her sing. That alone expands into the debate as to what one might subjectively like to hear her sing but is it right for her voice and how do such preferences tie-in with a planned career etc?
  
  This leads into comparisons with current music trends, other artists, where Hayley stands in relation to them and without realising it one suddenly finds oneself comparing life-styles, traits and philosophies of other artists (knowledge as fact, hearsay and presumption) which leads one to assess where Hayley may or may not stand within this.
  

In all of this we inadvertently mix objective analysis from facts gleaned or presumed and our subjective preferences and attitudes.

In short, I think the 'where we are at' in these discussions about Hayley is understandable and good to debate and to recognise such threads can lead into fields too far, or intrusions too far. We need a comment like yours to pull us up and say, 'hang on a moment, folks, this is getting out of hand'.

That is the job of the Mods. As they have said from time to time they try to steer a course between openness of debate and communal sharing with being censorious. In the final analysis it is a 'group' decision of the Moderators, in conjunction with knowing they have a two-way line with Hayley herself and her family through which warning shots or soundings-out can be shared to keep the whole in perspective and in good taste.

However, the Mods need help in making these decisions and our comments like these help to raise collective awareness and present the opportunities to take a step back and say 'hang on folks, perhaps we ought to close these threads'.

Closing threads does of course happen and what you raise is perhaps that some other threads might likewise close as we allowed ourselves to run away with ourselves. I say this on two grounds.

• I probably contribute to pushing the boundaries and have occasionally been told to shut up (it's done through PM's as gentle 'suggestions' if you have the wit to be open-minded enough to recognise them).
  
• Second, there have been times when matters have arisen with which I do not agree or have no interest. In such cases I simply stay quiet. In other words I haven't yet felt sufficiently concerned as to raise a PM with a Moderator but perhaps I ought to be that little more interactive than I have been.
  

You and I have opened a debate Milewalker. Others may comment on, or our dialogue alone may be sufficient, to spark a Mod overview from which a desicion may be made, some decisions may be made, or reassurance felt that all is in fact within bounds. Down to them.


Chow for now, folks
Peter S.

[roger]

postscript said:

That is the job of the Mods.

Yes it is, but only as a last resort. It would be appreciated if all members are mindful of the potential that some comments about Hayley which are of a more personal nature could be misinterpreted and could give out the wrong signal.

[Edit]... As you have recognised in your following paragraph, Peter. That will teach me to read the entire post before responding!

Thanks,
Roger

[postscript]

roger said:

postscript said:

That is the job of the Mods.

Yes it is, but only as a last resort. It would be appreciated if all members are mindful of the potential that some comments about Hayley which are of a more personal nature could be misinterpreted and could give out the wrong signal.

[Edit]... As you have recognised in your following paragraph, Peter. That will teach me to read the entire post before responding!

Thanks,
Roger

I will let that run with a gentle laugh as you are currently preoccupied with being so very helpful in a certain other manner at the present time!
Peter S.

[comet]

Hi Marianne.
With reference to reply 31.
Surely when someone is in difficulty would be a time when they need your support more rather than less ?

Did Jesus not say :
"you will not find me among the righteous,
but among the sinners."

So I have a better chance of meeting him there ?

comet

[petertong]

comet said:

Hi Marianne.
With reference to reply 31.
Surely when someone is in difficulty would be a time when they need your support more rather than less ?

Did Jesus not say :
"you will not find me among the righteous,
but among the sinners."

So I have a better chance of meeting him there ?

comet

Hi Comet,

I'm not going to take the bait and go into a massive theological treatise on this one... the Mods would probably furrow their brows at me i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif Very tempted though!

I did manage to think up another reason I like Hayley's voice... and that is that I find myself smiling when I hear her singing

Peter

[postscript]

comet said:

Hi Marianne.
With reference to reply 31.
Surely when someone is in difficulty would be a time when they need your support more rather than less ?

Did Jesus not say :
"you will not find me among the righteous,
but among the sinners."

So I have a better chance of meeting him there ?

comet

In the light of my own self-criticism recently, in which I illustrated how easy it was to diverge into undisciplined offshoots where our energies could be pointlessly deflected away from our main purpose, I said that I would be more inteventionist in stating where I was unhappy, rather than simply remaining silent. [it was reply 34 in this thread].


So, without intending to be unkind to anyone, I'll try the more interventionist role, especially since Roger has stated that it is really up to us to monitor ourselves, moderator intervention being 'the last resort'.

May I suggest that this type of dialogue gives this board the aura of being a Christian evangelist board rather than a music board devoted to one principal singer, Hayley?

As I illustrated in my multi-point post (reply 34) it is easy to 'run away with ourselves' (to which I pleaded guilty, too) due to running off with our subjective stances, forgetting our original, supposedly objective insights, upon the subject under discussion.

Peter S.

[comet]

Hi Petertong.
The smiling thing can get so bad that my face hurts
Sometimes I wear a pair of wireless headphones and I find my wife looking at me wondering if I am listening to comedy or something.

Would this be how you would recognise someone in the street who is listening to Hayley on their personal music player... i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif

So there's another one:

HAYLEY'S VOICE MAKES ME SMILE SO MUCH MY FACE HURTS..

comet

[Richard]

Hello Comet!
Is this you or a leprechaun, listening to Hayley?

Richard

[petertong]

comet said:

Hi Petertong.
The smiling thing can get so bad that my face hurts
Sometimes I wear a pair of wireless headphones and I find my wife looking at me wondering if I am listening to comedy or something.

Would this be how you would recognise someone in the street who is listening to Hayley on their personal music player... i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif

So there's another one:

HAYLEY'S VOICE MAKES ME SMILE SO MUCH MY FACE HURTS..

comet

Hahaha... I'm not sure what to say Comet... Hayley's voice is very good for unconsciously exercising the smile muscles, but very bad for causing the smile wrinkles

I'm going back out to work on the project car now before I go bonkers (which seemingly happens every time I log into this board)

[mariannek]

comet said:

Hi Marianne.
With reference to reply 31.
Surely when someone is in difficulty would be a time when they need your support more rather than less ?

Did Jesus not say :
"you will not find me among the righteous,
but among the sinners."

So I have a better chance of meeting him there ?

Iomet

Hi Comet,
I think you misunderstood, and I will clear that up in a pm. to you.

Love, Marianne

[jons]

From me its the three 'H's':

Hayley, Humor and Homer (Simpson that is!) I could of said Hot-dogs but I went off them a while ago!