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Post by Dave on Apr 5, 2007 16:19:01 GMT
Today at 16:16, milewalker wrote:[/color]
Hi Jon, this is churn rate, right? I've deliberately discounted Pure because most people who bought it would have done so on the back of the massive promo/hype, call it what you will... in many cases as presents for other people. Most of these people, especially from the initial batch of 2003 releases, would have been "lost" almost as soon as they bought the album... many without ever listening to it.
Thereafter, starting with Odyssey, things seem to have settled down on the sales front, in spite of what I would say has been less publicity and promo with each successive album. The reason for less promo is I think the (probable) financial black hole left over from the Pure fiasco (IMHO) when far too much seems to have been spent by Decca in relation to any reasonable expectation of actual sales performance and profitability.
I feel that Hayley's churn rate (lost 'fans') has been declining but of course that doesn't necessarily mean that her total fanbase has actually increased over the last three years (after Pure). What I think the forum stats could indicate is that her fan base is becoming more solid... and perhaps with projects like CW, it's started to rebound and increase in total because of the US - although other fans will continue to be lost especially in the UK where Hayley is currently well out of the limelight. That remains to be seen and of course, forum and site stats are a very small sample anyway.
Cheers, Dave
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Post by roger on Apr 5, 2007 16:27:39 GMT
Although the 6 months data interval is quite long, I think I can see a clear correlation between each membership boost and the release or re-release of Hayley albums. Cheers, Dave Hi Dave and everyone, I keep a record of these (and other) firgures on a daily basis. I merely posted twice-yearly figures (up to End 2006) as an example and to indicate some sort of benchmark. With that background, the current year's figures are more meaningful.  Roger |
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Post by comet on Apr 5, 2007 20:07:10 GMT
Hi Folks
I hope and suspect that the positive effect of Hayley singing with Celtic Woman will be slightly delayed like an earthquake building up. A lot of the CW fans are only beginning to realise that Hayley has a HUGE back catalogue of music by comparison with any of the other singers in the group. It may take them a little while to firstly decide they are going to actively look for her CDs. so by the time they figure out where to source them and actually buy them there may be some delay.
I suspect the CW tour will increase Hayley's sales by a huge amount.
AS LONG AS THE CDs ARE EASILY AVAILABLE. that is up to Decca / Universal
lets hope they get it right.
May this be Hayley's best year so far.
comet
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Post by Stephany on Apr 5, 2007 20:11:37 GMT
Comet, I'm sure you are totally right about Hayley's involvment with CW. I don't really know how the merchandize is displayed after a concert but when the fans will see how many CDs Hayley has done compared to the other girls (no offense there!); they will be thoroughly impressed.
Hence the HWI statistics!
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Post by comet on Apr 11, 2007 17:44:54 GMT
Hi Folks
I think "MOST RECENT POSTS" WILL HAVE TO BE INCREASED TO 300
never mind 30.
I've stayed online all day just to keep up.
comet
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Post by roger on Apr 11, 2007 17:58:46 GMT
Hi Comet, Increasing the number of "most recent posts" was discussed a few weeks ago. Although there are advantages, we felt they would be outweighed by the disadvantage of the time it would take to load the page, especially for our members who have dial-up. Consequently, the decision was taken to leave it at 30 (which is treble the amount of the default setting!). As a matter of interest, the most posts we have ever had in one day is 186. Today, we have already beaten that and it is not yet 7pm!  This significant increase in activity is very encouraging and I hope indicative of the increased interest in Hayley worldwide. And with that optimistic note comes a personal thank you from me to all our members for your loyal support, not just to HWI, but to Hayley. Roger |
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Post by roger on Apr 11, 2007 23:17:37 GMT
Further to my previous post, I can now confirm that we have smashed the previous record for the number of posts in one day. From midnight to midnight, the total was 247, beating the previous record by more than 33% Well done everyone, and goodnight!  Roger |
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Post by Joe on Apr 12, 2007 2:41:53 GMT
From midnight to midnight, the total was 247, beating the previous record by more than 33% You're not kidding! I "searched" for the last 125 posts and only got the posts to just after 1 PM! Good job I've got DSL now  Let's get that post count over 250, everyone!  |
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Post by Stephany on Apr 12, 2007 8:04:35 GMT
Further to my previous post, I can now confirm that we have smashed the previous record for the number of posts in one day. From midnight to midnight, the total was 247, beating the previous record by more than 33% Well-done, everyone ! Cadogan Hall has certainly done a lot for that!  Best wishes, Stephany |
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Post by postscript on Apr 12, 2007 13:57:01 GMT
Further to my previous post, I can now confirm that we have smashed the previous record for the number of posts in one day. From midnight to midnight, the total was 247, beating the previous record by more than 33% Well done everyone, and goodnight! Roger I love the little snoozer at the screen and up to 154 members to date--or did I inadvertently count in Stephany half-a-dozen times!  Peter S. |
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Post by petertong on Apr 13, 2007 5:46:49 GMT
Hi Roger, Sorry I only just saw this thread! All this talk of churn... one thing I wonder about classical type of singing is that its such a pure form of music... for all ages. I do wonder if the # of fans that drop off will be less as a result. In any case I really can't see that happening to me.... as long as she is still singing I will be enjoying....  Also - what is the guest to registered user ratio? I wonder how many lurkers we have? And what the ratio would be for folks that are fans that don't post to fans that do (but that one is almost impossible to answer) i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifI am most impressed by how this board is run... I have a BB (for a side business of mine) as well but its very difficult to get rid of and keep ahead of the spam registrations that enter the system - not to mention the nasty postings)... All I can say is this is an enjoyable place... Thanks! Peter |
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Post by roger on Apr 13, 2007 7:46:23 GMT
... one thing I wonder about classical type of singing is that its such a pure form of music... for all ages. I do wonder if the # of fans that drop off will be less as a result. Peter Hi Peter, If I have understood your question correctly, classical singing has always (hopefully!) been perceived as a pure form of music for all ages. That being the case, I see no reason why it should cause the number that "drop off" to reduce now. Calculating the guest/registered user ratio would be a time-consuming exercise. It would require every profile to be checked to see who had logged in on any given day (that could take an hour). Then add them up and subtract the answer from the increase in the total number of visitors (having noted the total on the stats counter at the begining and end of that period). But that would only give the result for that particular day. For it to be a relatively accurate tool, it would have to be done over many days (perhaps months) to determine a mean figure. But what would that achieve anyway? The number of members who post (or don't post) is also constantly changing. My feeling is that, as long as members are logging in, they are considered to be actively supporting this forum whether they post or not. As an indication, the proportion of the membership who logged in during the month of March was 63.73% which was not far short of the highest since I began the exercise three years ago. It is a subject that fascinates me and, studying patterns of activity may enable us to identify ways of increasing the forums popularity. However, it is time-consuming so we are somewhat limited as to what we are able to undertake in that way. Most importantly, we should be relatively discreet about any results that are published and must definitely never give the names of individual members' activity. Thank you for your kind words of support. Roger |
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Post by grant on Apr 13, 2007 8:24:06 GMT
As an indication, the proportion of the membership who logged in during the month of March was 63.73% which was not far short of the highest since I began the exercise three years ago. Superb!! That's a remarkably high level of activity for a group of any kind. No wonder this forum just keeps going from strength to strength. Best wishes Grant |
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Post by jons on Apr 20, 2007 15:46:17 GMT
I'd would like the forum more if there was more activity in discussion threads were people talk about things not related to Hayley's concert appearances and appearances on shows and things. All of the active posts appear to be concert and media based, which isn't a problem of course but other threads are neglected. I started a thread specifically about Hayley's voice hoping to get a conversion going about the intricacies of her voice, but didn't get many responses. But I for one love to talk about Hayley on a number of levels.
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Post by roger on Apr 20, 2007 16:39:52 GMT
Hi Jon,
I think you raise a good point. I also suspect that your suggestion may have received more replies if it had been made two or three years earler. Now, Hayley is so busy with tours, promo and recordings that it is only natural that these topics command the attention of most of our members.
If the time comes when Hayley is less active for an extended period, your suggestion (and others like it) may keep this forum alive.
Roger
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