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Post by thomas on Oct 9, 2009 17:34:14 GMT
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Post by thomas on Oct 9, 2009 17:36:45 GMT
My last and favorite one!  Elizabeth and Paul Thomas
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Post by graemek on Oct 9, 2009 22:18:09 GMT
Thanks a lot Thomas for your coverage. Great report & pics. So pleased that your concert was so thrilling !!! Graeme  |
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Post by musicfan on Oct 23, 2009 18:24:25 GMT
Hi Thomas- sounds like you had a really enjoyable time! Just a question- is Elizabeth's new album under the EMI label?
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Post by thomas on Oct 31, 2009 23:28:05 GMT
Hi musicfan! No, there's neither an EMI label on her new CD nor a label of any other record company. All copyright belongs to Elizabeth. Looks like a self-produced album. It's a fantastic album. So if you get your fingers on a copy go and buy one! Thomas |
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Post by musicfan on Nov 15, 2009 6:59:21 GMT
Thanks Thomas- looks like EMI have dropped her. It will be interesting to see how she gets on without a record company behind her. She comes from a very wealthy family which made the recording (and probably marketing) of another album possible.
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Post by nicola on Nov 15, 2009 10:49:59 GMT
EMI drops everyone in crossover. They have no clue as to what to do with crossover artists, and they stopped trying several years ago.
EMI's lovely list of casualties:
Natasha Marsh
Amy Nuttall
Becky Jane Taylor
Keedie
Elizabeth Marvelly
Myleene Klass
Wild
Cantamus
EMI's short list of of successes:
Er...
Sarah Brightman (though she made her own sub label to launch from)
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Post by comet on Nov 15, 2009 14:47:32 GMT
:rollin maybe they were afraid Elizabeth would set up an "international" website which would then be "EMI" and the the managing directors of EMI would get really confused because they are not too smart, or maybe they are TOO SMART as they have been buying back their shares from the public in the last while.. so maybe they are up to something  They have some major rock acts though Pink Floyd The Beatles Bowie etc. |
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Post by Dave on Nov 15, 2009 15:12:43 GMT
 maybe they were afraid Elizabeth would set up an "international" website which would then be " EMI" and the the managing directors of EMI would get really confused because they are not too smart... Now there's an idea...   Dave |
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Post by stevemacdonald on Nov 15, 2009 17:29:42 GMT
EMI drops everyone in crossover. ... The new marketing takes into account that albums and CDs are going to be a thing of the past, since more people are downloading songs they pick and choose directly from the internet. It also looks at popularity as crucial in determining what to invest in. Emi cannot afford to go "old school" with crossover by arranging expensive productions in a genre that has relatively limited appeal. If they fully supported any of the artists named they would discover quickly that the public wants only three or four songs apiece on average. I would tell these artists to take advantage of the internet and go fully independent. By now the crossover-loving public are resourceful enough to find these acts online and proceed from there. Who needs a stodgy old record label in the age of "do it yourself"? Crossover artists need to lose the sense of entitlement to contracts and such and fully exploit the new tools that are perfectly in place. |
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Post by nicola on Nov 15, 2009 17:59:14 GMT
Whilst there are genres that artists can do it themselves, that's really not the case for crossover. Majority of crossover fans are not connected to the internet. Also, crossover is a worth while venture in the UK. Crossover artists regularly hit the top 20 in the pop charts. They are actually low risk business ventures during holiday season.
EMI's failing crossover artists were not due to lack to talent and/or public awareness, it was to do with EMI being clueless about how to spend their money in the right places. UCJ and Decca (or universal, in other words), however, know exactly what they are doing.
Decca successes:
Andrea Bocelli
Bond
David Garrett
Hayley
Russel Watson
Sissel
Izzy
Decca failures:
Three Graces
Neal E Boyd (both of these artists were in America)
UCJ successes:
Aled Jones
All Angels
Blake
Emma Shapplin
Faryl Smith
Jonathan Ansell
Katherine Jenkins
RyanDan
Failures:
Will Martin
Nicky Spence
As to Will Martin, I don't know where they went wrong. I know, as someone that was waiting for his album on tenterhooks, I was confused by how they promoted him in April of that year, but didn't release his album until September. I had forgotten about him by then, and only got his album this year in the bargain bin for £3 in WHSmith.
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Post by stevemacdonald on Nov 15, 2009 18:52:01 GMT
Here in the US crossover artists usually arrive fully-formed, in most cases billed as a "phenomenon" or "sensation" and backed by public TV specials. There are no "minor leagues" for this genre that would serve as training grounds for future success. You either have it or you don't.
I'm sure even in the UK the pressure must be on for crossover artists to be nothing short of extraordinary. Maybe Emi felt their artists weren't that sensational once they got a closeup look at them. They might have signed them in the first place just to get rights of first refusal. At least that's what it looks like.
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Post by Ross on Nov 17, 2009 5:59:12 GMT
i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif Elizabeth sang the NZ national anthem at the All Blacks vs Italy game last Saturday. Unfortunately the sound system at the ground was very poor and you could hardly hear Elizabeth. Hopefully she will also be at the England game this weekend and the French game the following week.
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Post by musicfan on Nov 18, 2009 0:48:11 GMT
I can't really comment about many people on the EMI list- but Elizabeth's album and career here in NZ were very well promoted. Maybe EMI New Zealand works harder for its artists than EMI UK.
It was a pity about Natasha Marsh- I wonder if she lost career momentum when she had her baby and it became hard to pick things up again. She seemed to be doing well at one stage with her football connection.
I wonder also if one of the reasons record companies struggle to make money from crossover now is the number of artists involved. It is hard to have a lasting career in the genre now- singers seem to make an album then the public moves on to the next new act. Not much point in the companies investing much in one artist I guess.
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Post by elizabethmarvelly on Dec 22, 2009 22:02:02 GMT
Hello everyone!
I just thought that I would pop in and wish you all a very merry Christmas. My apologies that I haven't stopped by for quite a while. Having just returned from Paul's massive Euro tour I am quite relishing a bit of 'chill' time here at home in NZ.
I also wanted to thank you all for your support this year, a special thanks to those who have come to see me in concert, all around the world! I am blown away by the distances some of you travelled to come along to various shows. So thanks, so much!
A little word on my new album 'Home'... general release is at this time being discussed for (NZ) mother's day of 2010, and I am very excited. I know that there has been a lot of speculation about record labels, and at this point I can confirm that I made this record myself, with help from some truly wonderful people. Nick Patrick is producer, Carl Doy is associate producer, and the NZSO provided the wonderful instrumental accompaniment. Stepping out and making an album on my own was a hugely challenging but infinitely rewarding process, and I feel very much that the album is truly 'me'. I can't wait to see what you think of it.
In saying all this, EMI is still very much in the picture, guys, so hopefully together we will be bringing this record to NZ and Australia at least, before too long.
Thank you all, once again, and have a wonderful festive season. I'll be enjoying it here in the sun, but for all of those in the northern hemisphere, I hope it's lovely and snowy!
Best wishes to you all,
Elizabeth x
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