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Post by roger on Aug 21, 2005 21:32:51 GMT
I can't believe they would include all three versions of 'Wiegenlied'. I think a lot of fans would consider that a bit of a rip-off. Even two versions of the same song on consecutive albums is pushing their luck a bit.
Ah yes, now you mention the reasons for cutting the orchestral ending from 'May It Be', I do recall hearing something about that. I guess I can understand their reasoning but it seems a shame because it is so dramatic and really makes that track in my opinion. And it isn't exactly explosive like the 'Benedictus bang' (for want of a better description!).
I hope they don't keep us in suspense much longer although our guessing games are making this board very active! lol
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Post by HWI on Aug 21, 2005 22:27:24 GMT
... And it isn't exactly explosive like the 'Benedictus bang' (for want of a better description!). It is known as the "Rossini Crescendo". Named after him because he was the first to use it. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifKeith. |
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Post by sal on Aug 22, 2005 12:01:58 GMT
I agree with Roger - surely 3 versions of the same track is a bit too much, especially if it was done purely so it could qualify for the classical charts - at least give us a bit of variation and different classical tracks. I find it quite hard to beleive that the final UK track listing still hasn't been decided yet - the release date is a month away and if the track listing is going to different surely the artwork is going to have to be slightly different? Will this all be able to be completed in time?
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Post by Dave on Aug 22, 2005 12:39:59 GMT
I agree with Roger - surely 3 versions of the same track is a bit too much, especially if it was done purely so it could qualify for the classical charts - at least give us a bit of variation and different classical tracks. I find it quite hard to beleive that the final UK track listing still hasn't been decided yet - the release date is a month away and if the track listing is going to different surely the artwork is going to have to be slightly different? Will this all be able to be completed in time? Hi sal, hi Roger! My suggestion of three versions was.... a joke!  I didn't like them putting two versions of Hine e Hine on Pure and I'd be hopping mad if they did that _twice_ on Odyssey! Sal, I agree that they are cutting it very fine if they still haven't finalised the UK edition and if not, there must be a risk of the release date slipping. Let's hope this is some kind of master plan to increase everybody's antiicipation... but I doubt it. Perhaps Hayley and Co. need to get back to the UK for a "decision" meeting with Decca or a ruling from the Charts Committee or (perish the thought) some final work in the studio? |
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Post by roger on Aug 22, 2005 14:29:34 GMT
Hi sal, hi Roger! My suggestion of three versions was.... a joke! Now he tells us! Roger |
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Post by sal on Aug 22, 2005 16:24:09 GMT
Lol!!! Phew...now I can see the funny side!
On a more seious note let's hope that such drastic measure as changing the release date won't have to be taken.
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Post by Oksana on Aug 26, 2005 17:35:30 GMT
Hello everyone! The UK tracklisting is now available on Hayley's official site. www.hayleywestenra.com/westenra-music-video.htmEDIT: Here's the tracklisting, so you don't have to go to the link: 1 Prayer
2 Dell' Amore Non Si Sa
3 Never Saw Blue
4 Ave Maria (Caccini)
5 What You Never Know (Won't Hurt You)
6 Quanta Qualia
7 Both Sides Now
8 May It Be
9 Bachianas Brasileiras
10 Bridal Ballad
11 Mists of Islay
12 O Mio Babbino Caro
13 Laudate Dominum
14 Wiegenlied
15 She Moves Through The Fair
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Post by emmettb on Aug 26, 2005 17:39:04 GMT
WOW, Thanks for that news. Great to see a new look for the site (about time). New pictures in the Odyssey gallery too. The UK tracklisting looks great, 16 tracks interesting to see 'Mists of Islay' there which was already on the 'Hayley Westenra' album. Hey, Dave is this classical enough for the charts?? Emmett  |
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Post by Oksana on Aug 26, 2005 17:50:05 GMT
They removed "My Heart Belongs to You"! From the reviews I've read, that's everybody's favourite song!
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Post by emmettb on Aug 26, 2005 18:03:37 GMT
Hi All,
They have also set up a Forum on the offical site, looks like the same setup as the one from Katherine Jenkins official site.
Emmett
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Post by roger on Aug 26, 2005 18:07:57 GMT
Hey, Dave is this classical enough for the charts?? Emmett We'll let Dave have the casting vote on that one but I can't really see it. With 16 tracks, it would require 10 classical, wouldn't it Dave? There are certainly eight but the other two, namely 'May It Be' and 'Bridal Ballad', depend upon the definition of classical. Aren't they running a little bit of a risk there? It sure is a tragedy that 'My Heart Belongs To You' hasn't made it. Surely the total playing time will be well over the hour though.  Congratulations to Someone for being the first to find the UK tracklisting. Roger |
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Post by stephch on Aug 26, 2005 19:00:09 GMT
Why did they have to get rid of 'My Heart Belongs To You' .But I like it how it would have 16 song's on it even thought I am not sure if it would make it on the UK classical chart .I joined her officail message board.
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Post by Dave on Aug 26, 2005 19:14:24 GMT
Well done someone, for spotting that so quickly! Roger, I appreciate your confidence but alas, it isn't possible to know at this stage if it will qualify for the UK Classical Chart. They've gone to a heck of a lot of effort trying though, and if they failed, I bet they went down kicking and screaming! I agree with the comments about leaving out My Heart Belongs To You - it shouldn't have happened. Perhaps now, they will release that as a single in the UK; I certainly hope so. Here's my initial analysis (pop/classical) - but I still need to find out a few more things. 1 Prayer [pop] 2 Dell' Amore Non Si Sa [pop] 3 Never Saw Blue [pop] 4 Ave Maria (Caccini) [CLASSICAL]5 What You Never Know (Won't Hurt You) [pop] 6 Quanta Qualia [CLASSICAL]7 Both Sides Now [pop] 8 May It Be [could be pop or classical arrangement?]9 Bachianas Brasileiras [CLASSICAL]10 Bridal Ballad [CLASSICAL]11 Mists of Islay [could be pop or classical arrangement?]12 O Mio Babbino Caro [CLASSICAL]13 Laudate Dominum [CLASSICAL]14 Wiegenlied [CLASSICAL]15 She Moves Through The Fair [could be pop or classical arrangement?]16 Dido's Lament [CLASSICAL]So that makes only 8 probable or definite classical qualifiers. As I think Roger said, 10 out of 16 are needed - but if they'd had 15 tracks as I suggested a while back, only NINE would have been needed! This makes me think they may have done it... perhaps by getting 2 of the 3 tracks I flagged arranged classically and agreed by the charts people. Another indication could be the inclusion of Bridal Ballad - this is already available on the UK Special Edition of Pure and is probably "Classical". Why else would they include it unless they needed to, to get it in the classical charts? Why also would they include Mists of Islay - which (in a different recording) appeared on H-W? Perhaps they have done a "Hine" or "Pokarekare" with it and made it classical enough. As could also be the case with May It Be. Roger, I take your point on Bridal Ballad - classical is not certain - but which is the other one you think is classical? So there we have it; I don't know!  But, I really cannot see why they'd pull out all the stops like this to make a huge 16 track album, if it wasn't going to qualify for the Classical Charts. If you held a gun to my head, I'd have to guess "yes they did it"  but there is one other possibility: they could have had to abandon the attempt at the last minute, due to lack of time.  The guessing goes on...   i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifPS: The tracklisting and samples will already have been submitted to the Classical Charts Committee, so Decca and Hayley should already know if this qualifies for the Classical Charts. |
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Post by roger on Aug 26, 2005 20:29:19 GMT
Hi Dave,
The two that I doubted were 'Bridal Ballad' (as you assumed) and 'May It Be'. Then again, I assumed 'Dell Amore' would be classical!
Let's face it, we still don't know! lol
Roger
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Post by Richard on Aug 27, 2005 15:56:05 GMT
Hello again everybody! Well now we know, and the UK tracklisting looks great! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifI'm glad I've got the Australian version, not only because two songs have been dropped, but also because I suspect there may be different arrangements of some of the songs.  I'm very pleased to see there won't be two different versions of the same song. When that happened on "Pure" I thought it was a waste of five minutes! Let's hope it qualifies for the classical charts, because it's going to be a big hit! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifBest Wishes from London, Richard |
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But, I really cannot see why they'd pull out all the stops like this to make a huge 16 track album, if it wasn't going to qualify for the Classical Charts. If you held a gun to my head, I'd have to guess "yes they did it" 
but there is one other possibility: they could have had to abandon the attempt at the last minute, due to lack of time. 
