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Post by martindn on Sept 12, 2013 21:49:03 GMT
It has to do with Katherine doing that song with Hayley I think.
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Post by Libby on Sept 13, 2013 4:42:29 GMT
Martin, that's silly. So, because Andrea Bocelli has performed The Prayer with Celine Dion mean he shouldn't perform it with Hayley, or anybody else, because Celine was the first one to do it? No, of course not! In fact, many of us would rather hear Hayley sing with him than Celine! I'm sure the same is true with Hayley vs. Kiri. The Flower Duet is a very well-known aria, so it wouldn't be like it's the only version.
Nearly every duet Hayley has done could be compared with someone else's.
I do wonder how Hayley's voice would sound with KJ's voice these days, and if it meant better press for her (assuming KJ gets better press than Hayley), then fine with me.
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Post by Simba on Sept 13, 2013 10:57:50 GMT
Yes very true Libby that is why I didn't get the point. I don't think there's anything political about her recording a famous aria with KJ because Kiri did it with her earlier, not like she has a say.
I liked KJ's performance with Baker, where the latter's voice was more smooth like hayley's and it went well together. But it's becoming difficult for me to imagine singing classical pieces these days o.o and on top of that some people call her an opera singer XD She's not even classical anymore. Dangerous really to be in an unspecified genre lying between genres like this, making people wonder pop or classical, folk or what? While it's nice to have that freedom and we enjoy what she's singing anyway, but not really good for her career as such. Hope the next album sets things straight.
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Post by Dave on Sept 13, 2013 13:08:02 GMT
I do wonder how Hayley's voice would sound with KJ's voice these days, and if it meant better press for her (assuming KJ gets better press than Hayley), then fine with me. Hi Libby, Of course Katherine's more press isn't necessarily better press. Katherine definitely gets more, and some celebrities think more is better - but I suspect that Hayley isn't one of them.  Not to mention Katherine's acrimonious split with Bandana - which may be a problem. I think that if there is any collaboration between the two of them, it will be very limited and would be driven by third parties - but time will tell. Cheers, Dave |
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Post by martindn on Sept 13, 2013 20:29:15 GMT
Well, I feel sure it will never happen unless Katherine thinks she can gain more publicity though it. The only way I could imagine it is if she were trying to get some advantage from Hayley's popularity in the far east.
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Post by Libby on Sept 14, 2013 2:15:44 GMT
I do wonder how Hayley's voice would sound with KJ's voice these days, and if it meant better press for her (assuming KJ gets better press than Hayley), then fine with me. Hi Libby, Of course Katherine's more press isn't necessarily better press. Katherine definitely gets more, and some celebrities think more is better - but I suspect that Hayley isn't one of them. Not to mention Katherine's acrimonious split with Bandana - which may be a problem. I think that if there is any collaboration between the two of them, it will be very limited and would be driven by third parties - but time will tell. Cheers, Dave Well, I'm not clamoring for it, certainly. Anway, as Simba says, she's not an opera singer, and just going by the way we've heard her sing lately, her voice is sounding more pop than "opera". I'm not really sure the Flower Duet would even suit her voice anymore, as well as it might have back in the Treasure days, say. |
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Post by Simba on Sept 14, 2013 19:11:12 GMT
Yes yes, exactly my thoughts, that's why it's all the more interesting if she does it or any operatic aria. I want to hear her perform that Bachianas song, along with Laudate Dominum(this one she's never performed live I think)
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Post by Jillian on Jan 20, 2014 12:38:02 GMT
Hi all, I noticed that Katherine Jenkins has officially announced her return to Decca. I think the press call is happening as I type this, so no details as yet about how much it is worth etc. Katherine just tweeted this photo of her new hair colour. I do wonder whether Decca are going to try to pitch a more 'down to earth' Katherine image this time around -- hence the return to a more natural shade of hair? I must say, it suits her very well. It is a much more youthful and fun shade than the very peroxide blonde look she has been sporting for a while.  UPDATESeems that this reporter agreed with my theory as posted above. It seems as though Decca's plan from the outset is to try to dilute the 'high maintenance diva' image that Katherine seemed to have attracted over recent times. It also seems that there might be a return to more 'safer' popera repertoire than what Katherine attempted on her previous record label. I must say, the new hair - particularly in the photo below makes Katherine look a lot younger and fresher. Of course, I am mainly interested in this for the flow on effect (if any) that it will have on Hayley's releases with Decca. I note that Katherine will be releasing her album in the autumn -- so like September/October? I don't imagine that Decca would want to release Hayley's next album around the same time as Katherine's. Perhaps this means that a November/December pre-Christmas release might be more likely -- as I don't think it likely that Hayley would be able to release an album before September (based on what we actually know about the next album, which is nothing  ) |
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Post by Sing on Jan 20, 2014 20:59:17 GMT
Wow, I think that's a much better look for Katherine, it really suits her to have a more natural shade of blonde and less make-up than she has had in recent years. Of course, I am mainly interested in this for the flow on effect (if any) that it will have on Hayley's releases with Decca. I note that Katherine will be releasing her album in the autumn -- so like September/October? I don't imagine that Decca would want to release Hayley's next album around the same time as Katherine's. Perhaps this means that a November/December pre-Christmas release might be more likely -- as I don't think it likely that Hayley would be able to release an album before September (based on what we actually know about the next album, which is nothing ![]() Hi Jillian, Good point. As Katherine has had this make-over I would imagine Decca would want to promote her next album a lot, well, they would anyway but perhaps more so- a lot of time, effort and money could be placed in 'reinventing' her image, especially with the 'diva' image the press is quite determined to hold on to, (which may or may not be true). As a result I would imagine that Hayley's album wouldn't be released around the same time, although the media have often wanted to force a competition between them- particularly regarding their charity work. Personally, I think it would be better for Hayley to release an album before Katherine's for this reason. Also, this is Katherine's 10th year in the industry, I would imagine that would lead to a lot of promotion too, perhaps more than Hayley got when it was her 10th year anniversary. I'm a bit surprised that they haven't mentioned that Katherine received an OBE this year in that article, although I'm sure it will be somewhere. I'm guess I'm just saying that I think Hayley's album might be affected by Katherine's new album (for want of a better way of putting it  ) because they might see that there is more they can promote/ reinvent with Katherine, that's not to say they couldn't do the same with Hayley if they wanted to, obviously. I hope it doesn't have much of an influence on the release date for Hayley's next album, because I don't want to wait longer, I like Katherine's albums mostly, but it's Hayley's I'm most excited for this year. Edit: I've found another couple of articles from today: Katherine Jenkins dyes hair darker www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25812685Sing
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Post by Jillian on Jan 20, 2014 22:26:28 GMT
Hi Sing, I think that Decca will also want to spread out the two releases because many people who buy Katherine's albums also buy Hayley's. If they position the releases too close together, a lot of people may only buy one of them. I rather get the impression that Katherine is going back to her roots as the 'Welsh daughter'. Glitzy hair and makeup gone at last and back to being more relateable. A change which was probably overdue. One issue is whether that is going to risk Hayley and Katherine's images being too alike. Because classical crossover artists essentially do the same repertoire, they need to be separated out by image. Otherwise they risk being lost in the ocean of covers of Danny Boy and Amazing Grace. In the past, these two have always operated in distinctly different territory. Hayley has been the young, pure, girl next door an Katherine has been the jewelled, glamorous diva. I wonder if Decca will be keen to ensure that it's two main female CC vocalists stand apart? I have been recently saying that Hayley's public image needs a bit of a freshen up - perhaps it will happen in order to set apart Hayley from Katherine? You said that there might be more to re-invent with Katherine. I actually think there's more to reinvent with Hayley (as her image hasn't changed since she was 16). The question is more whether Hayley has the inclination and courage to do so. As any change in image for Hayley - that is a move away from the very safe approach she now takes, will be much riskier than what Katherine is doing. Hayley would have to be sure that any change was something that she really wanted to do. Because it would be sad if Hayley was convinced to do something short sighted that would later prove disadvantageous in the long term. (Which sort of did actually happen last year). As for the release of albums - well I agree, in a perfect world a pre-Katherine release would be ideal. But I don't see how a July/August release could happen at this stage - based on what I actually know about the progress of the next album, which is nothing lol I would much rather Hayley's next release be after Katherine's if it means that nothing is rushed out.  |
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Post by Jillian on Jan 21, 2014 3:08:20 GMT
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Post by Libby on Jan 21, 2014 6:32:30 GMT
The hint of her album coming out in the fall, and your theory on not releasing Hayley's album at the same time makes me lean towards my early 2015 theory even more. A difference of a month or 2 wouldn't be that significant, would it? September is probably too early for a fall release. Don't they usually go for October or November? But then Paradiso was released in August (UK). Speaking of which, that really doesn't seem that long ago! My, how time really does fly.
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Post by Jillian on Jan 21, 2014 8:08:27 GMT
The hint of her album coming out in the fall, and your theory on not releasing Hayley's album at the same time makes me lean towards my early 2015 theory even more. A difference of a month or 2 wouldn't be that significant, would it? September is probably too early for a fall release. Don't they usually go for October or November? But then Paradiso was released in August (UK). Speaking of which, that really doesn't seem that long ago! My, how time really does fly. Hi Libby, I agree, but I think a Christmas time release would be attractive for the sales it would get from presents etc -- that's if they want to sneak in a 2014 release. But other than that 2015 may be a safer bet. Of course, all of this theorising is based on our view that the next album being in its early stages re the actual recording process. But I don't think we've had anything to convince us otherwise -- unless you count the time Hayley spent 'in the studio' in 2012 - but I always thought that was writing time, rather than actual recording. But we've been taken by surprise before... Paradiso doesn't seem that long ago in a sense, but in other ways it seems ages ago! I believe the old saying is that a watched pot never boils... |
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Post by Libby on Jan 22, 2014 6:45:16 GMT
Well, thankfully I haven't been watching the pot so much these days. For now, I'm going to distract myself with one of my other obsessions, figure skating and the Olympics. |
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Post by Sing on Jul 21, 2014 21:51:01 GMT
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) because they might see that there is more they can promote/ reinvent with Katherine, that's not to say they couldn't do the same with Hayley if they wanted to, obviously. 
