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Post by Libby on Jun 26, 2013 20:16:44 GMT
Okay guys, I understand your distaste for Simon Cowell, but I don't see the need for making fun of the winners/contestants of the shows, who for the most part have excellent voices, and are even good artists as well. And what about Ashleigh & Pudsey? Do you think they're terrible too, just because of Simon? And I do not need any remarks from people who think dog acts are stupid, because Pudsey is one of the most excellent dogs ever to be seen on any of these shows, and there is most definitely a place for well-trained, talented animals like him in the world. I would dare to say that Pudsey is probably the best act to ever win BGT.  Singers get boring sometimes. I'm not saying Simon Cowell is a great person, or doesn't have any negative impact at all, but when I watch the X Factor, for example, I often find myself agreeing with a lot of his critiques. He really isn't the horrible person you all seem to think he is. |
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Post by Dave on Jun 26, 2013 23:12:01 GMT
Hi Libby, It's mostly meant as light hearted fun, here in the UK Simon is considered fair game for those kind of remarks, usually meant humourously but some people (like Natalie Holt) feel very strongly about it. Musicians often tend to dislike him because his record company often used electronic backings on their CDs instead of real musicians (I don't know if that's still the case). He has also pushed the use of miming in 'live' shows, not only by singers in the past, but also by backing musicians (now). That seems to have spread to many other shows now, partly because of his influence and success. So, many people consider that he's had a negative influence overall on both UK TV and the music industry and he does tend to be the subject of negative criticism even though millions watch his shows and many like him. Some of the performers though are excellent, it's a pity that he sees the need to sprinkle them with dreadful performers too, for contrast and effect. Simon Cowell... another case of Marmite, I think, but I definitely prefer the Hayley variety! Cheers, Dave PS Incidentally, I too eventually came to the conclusion that Natalie's egg throwing session was unplanned, so that accusation of a setup, I am happy to retract. Sorry to Simon! |
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Post by Libby on Jun 26, 2013 23:54:42 GMT
LOL So we know that Simon wouldn't stoop that low, after all, I guess. Or at least, he didn't. And at least he still took it well... probably because he knew it would be good publicity! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifYeah, he produces albums poorly (Jai MacDowall) and all that, but his shows have given many people opportunities to be successful that they probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise. These shows to me have made it easier for people who want their music/talent known to the world to do so if these shows didn't exist. I did think Richard's comment was very clever, but it just annoyed me a little. |
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Post by Richard on Jun 27, 2013 7:39:02 GMT
Hello Libby!  At the end of the day, the yolk was on Simon!  I agree there have been a few good acts on X-Factor and Britain's Got Talent, but they tend to be overshadowed by acts that should never have been allowed on in the first place. I thought Opportunity Knocks was much better and fairer, but that show was probably before your time. Richard  |
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Post by Libby on Jun 27, 2013 20:49:51 GMT
Hello Libby! At the end of the day, the yolk was on Simon! I agree there have been a few good acts on X-Factor and Britain's Got Talent, but they tend to be overshadowed by acts that should never have been allowed on in the first place. I thought Opportunity Knocks was much better and fairer, but that show was probably before your time. Richard And possibly didn't air in my country? And there have been plenty of good singers to come from American Idol... but only a few really good ones. Most of them you never hear about again after their first CD, if at all. Or, you do only if you pay attention. But that's because you have to be more than a good singer to stand out, you have to be unique, or have an extraordinary voice. I don't think any of them have that, though maybe unique voices. Kelly Clarkson doesn't have an amazing voice, but she has a strong pop voice, and sings songs that many people like. I sometimes wonder if her continued success has something to do with being the first one to win. Carrie Underwood has the best country voice to come out of the show, and she has won several Grammies and Country Music awards. I don't know, it's hard to tell sometimes why some of the winners are successful, and others aren't. As good as David Cook is, he hasn't done anything noticeable since his first couple albums. That's probably somewhat due to their record companies, probably going by how well they do. Simon Cowell doesn't really have much to do with it, though he probably likes to think so. Not everyone likes rock, but while David has a bit of the [seemingly] mandatory gruffness in his voice, it's only just enough, not so much as to be unpleasant, and it's not so forced you think he'll destroy his voice (unlike the 6 year old girl on AGT last night!!  ). He's more pop rock, not heavy metal or grunge. Anyway, here's a sampling of his music, probably his most famous song: Light On (official video) www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-1902611395/david_cook_light_on_official_music_video/ My favorite part is around 3:00 in, when he's the least rough-sounding, though. Showing that he has a good singing voice beyond the rough rock sound. The "idol" who performed in WA DC the night Hayley was there to perform Pie Jesu, Kris Allen, has a very pleasant voice, and is a good songwriter. This is one of his songs that I like: It's Alright With Me www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HBgIOoeVg |
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