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Post by martindn on Aug 19, 2013 19:45:07 GMT
Yes, Libby I agree. I said it was a criticism that had been made, not one that I made. I have always loved Hayley's voice, and her improved technique is the icing on the cake. In that regard Hushabye is probably her best album, but I still prefer some of her earlier ones as I know you do.
But try playing those six bonus tracks back to back and you will see what I mean. They show off Hayley's versatility more than perhaps better than any other collection of 6 tracks from the same album ever has.
Yes, Nemunoki is the odd one out. She didn't use the "Hushabye" technique in it. It would be interesting I agree, to hear how she would tackle it now.
Martin D
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Post by Libby on Aug 19, 2013 23:19:42 GMT
Yes, Libby I agree. I said it was a criticism that had been made, not one that I made. I have always loved Hayley's voice, and her improved technique is the icing on the cake. In that regard Hushabye is probably her best album, but I still prefer some of her earlier ones as I know you do. But try playing those six bonus tracks back to back and you will see what I mean. They show off Hayley's versatility more than perhaps better than any other collection of 6 tracks from the same album ever has. Yes, Nemunoki is the odd one out. She didn't use the "Hushabye" technique in it. It would be interesting I agree, to hear how she would tackle it now. Martin D And I didn't say it was your criticism, but you mentioned it in your post, so that's why I continued discussing the matter.  I could play the 3 clips back-to-back, along with the 3 I have, I suppose, but I don't find that necessary. I already have the English/Welsh version of All Through the Night, and I'm guessing as far as her voice and emotion goes, they sound mostly the same. And Bao Bei is okay, but too short and choppy for her voice, though it is a catchy tune. And I'm definitely passing on the 3rd one, and pretend I never heard it. I don't think there's much else she could have done with Nemunoki, anyway. I think it sounded perfect the way her voice was back then, the classical way she sang it. I bet now she would start in a lower note, and I probably wouldn't like it as much. That's what happened when she sang the Japanese Amazing Grace song on Paradiso, I did not enjoy it as much as her original recording from 2008, even though I'd been longing to hear her sing it solo for a long time. But after hearing her sing Amazing Grace so perfectly other times recently, I have no idea why that recording didn't sound like she did in Japan this month, for example. Or, in Christchurch in 2011. It just doesn't make sense why, if we know she's able do it way better than she did in that recording, why didn't she? It was way too thin and too low, as I said. Oh well... |
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Post by Simba on Aug 21, 2013 15:00:37 GMT
True that! I'm sure I'd have not liked it if she did Nemunoki now, glad that she didn't XD. It'd have been all airy and nasal like she made Hine sound, the pure version for me is still incomparable. If I hadn't heard nemunoki before and if it was in this album, I'd have said that's the best track on the album as far as Lullaby theme goes, put emotion and other things aside, that pure pristine sound is what has the true healing power. It'd have been interesting if she had recorded more songs like that for this album. I love hushabye, it's one of my favorites, but at the end of the day, if it's about lullabies, soothing music, putting people to sleep, her old, Let me Lie, E Pari ra, Shenandoah, Danny boy and the likes are unbeatable. They do it better with just the clean sound.
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Post by Libby on Aug 21, 2013 20:13:19 GMT
True that! I'm sure I'd have not liked it if she did Nemunoki now, glad that she didn't XD. It'd have been all airy and nasal like she made Hine sound, the pure version for me is still incomparable. If I hadn't heard nemunoki before and if it was in this album, I'd have said that's the best track on the album as far as Lullaby theme goes, put emotion and other things aside, that pure pristine sound is what has the true healing power. It'd have been interesting if she had recorded more songs like that for this album. I love hushabye, it's one of my favorites, but at the end of the day, if it's about lullabies, soothing music, putting people to sleep, her old, Let me Lie, E Pari ra, Shenandoah, Danny boy and the likes are unbeatable. They do it better with just the clean sound.See, exactly! You understand at last! Hayley's voice alone is soothing and relaxing, and for me the lyrics are far more soothing than most of those on Hushabye. Even if I had need of soothing music before I sleep, I would not choose Hushabye to do the trick, because I don't think it work for me. |
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Post by martindn on Aug 21, 2013 22:18:56 GMT
Actually Libby and Simba, I think you both have a point. Hayley was criticised for lack of "emotion" and for her interpretation for years. She has turned that weakness into a strength and that is what makes some of her recent performances so compelling. Hayley has always listened to her critics and fans alike, and tried to do her best to please them.
But the Hayley of Hushabye is not the Hayley that originally blew me away the first time I heard her sing back in 2004. Then it was the purity and beauty of her voice. She was only 16 at the time. Nemunoki is a good example of that. BOTW is the other side of the coin, all about interpretation and yes, the quality of Hayley's voice too.
I played BOTW to the guy who I car share with on my infrequent forays into work. He said that most people perhaps wouldn't like it, because being different to the original, it was "wrong".
I pointed out that I doubted that Art Garfunkel could match the power, range and control that Hayley demonstrated on her recording, so had to record his version to suit his voice. Hayley recorded hers to suit her voice, and interpreted it her way, which is exactly as it should be.
Martin D
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Post by Richard on Aug 25, 2013 12:42:17 GMT
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Post by Richard on Aug 29, 2013 7:39:29 GMT
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Post by comet on Jul 26, 2015 16:16:11 GMT
Timothy Evans may find this interesting :
Came across this earlier version of Bridge over Troubled Water (Demo Take 6) recorded August 13th 1969.
No clashing orchestral crescendos, some slightly different lyrics, hand claps for percussion.
The version that became the hit single was recorded months later in November 1969
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Post by comet on Apr 3, 2016 19:33:30 GMT
and here's a slightly different one
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and all because Libby quoted from this song
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