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Post by postscript on Dec 27, 2011 6:17:25 GMT
I wonder if they know who you are Libby. I would certainly hope so. But doesn't the initiative have to come from the MTC rather than Hayley's management. I would think they would need to invite her. And then she would need to feel comfortable about it. Martin D I'm inclined to this opinion, Martin. For her management to promote the idea implies she is in need of their publicity. I would expect the normal approach to be that MTC express their interest in her and value her for advancing themselves. After all, she would be a contributor to them rather than they being of direct use to her. Peter S. |
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Post by tireman on Dec 28, 2011 0:09:48 GMT
You may be right. But as I mentioned above, after I wrote to the MTC themselves last year, they replied saying that Hayley is definitely in their future plans!  So, I think that helps a lot. And when I wrote to both Bedlam and Bandana, I told them what they said. I think this will help her management be more likely to say yes, anyway.  The fact that the MTC music directors are already interested in having her on is a start, at least. I just thought it wouldn't hurt to get the idea into the managements' minds, as well. I made sure to give them an idea of what these concerts are like, to help them see why it would be a great opportunity for Hayley in the US. If the MTC ever does get around to inviting Hayley, Bandana will hopefully (if they bothered to read my letter) already have the idea in mind as something to possibly arrange for Hayley in the near future.  I have no idea how early the MTC begins negotiating these things, but it's possible that they might have tried to get Hayley this year, but she already had the Taiwan concerts just around the time they filmed their concerts. I kind of doubt it, but it is possible! And, if that really had happened, and Bandana thinks it's a good idea, then maybe they would be more likely to keep next December open for such things! Oh, well, I just hope it's not 5 years till it happens. The sooner the better, because 2 years is already hard to wait for to see Hayley on TV, because that's the earliest we could hope for that.  Hi Libby I can't say enough about your tenacity to help Hayley. I applaud you for efforts. However; I suspect the MTC'S schedule would have to dovetail perfectly with Hayley's. Although Hayley would probably have to only spend a short time coming here for a few days that time of year is usually booked for Hayley for more lucrative events when she makes her Christmas tours. To see Hayley with the MTC would be fabulous. I hope some day it happens. Larry |
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Post by Libby on Dec 28, 2011 6:50:05 GMT
Well, Larry, that's kind of the idea for writing to Bandana. Not so much that I think they should do the inviting. More so that they are aware of the MTC's professed interest in having Hayley on, so that they are more likely to allow time for something like that. They will already know about the concert, what a big production it is, and how widely-watched it is in the US.
I have no idea how early the MTC starts contacting whomever they want to have on that year, but hopefully it's early enough so that Bandana has a chance consider it, before her Dec. schedule is already booked.
True, Hayley usually does Christmas concerts in the UK. But, I think it would be nice if she could do some different things once in a while. And she just did, by going to Taiwan. I think doing concerts in Taiwan was more beneficial to her than doing the same Christmas concerts she does every single year. It's only fair to allow other fans to see her at Christmastime, especially if it means being seen on TV all around the US!
Even though the MTC concert would only require her presence in the US for a few days, it would be worth the effort. This would be the biggest concert she will have done in the US since her CW days. Have you seen how big that church is? It's huge! The floor level alone looks vast, but there are also a few upper levels! Not to mention they do more than one concert, and the fact that it's broadcast all across the US!
She would be the star soloist, and nobody else to steal the attention (other than the choir itself), like at the Capitol 4th and Memorial Day shows. Also, as I said, I feel sure she would thoroughly enjoy the experience.
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Post by Richard on Dec 28, 2011 8:52:51 GMT
Hello Libby!  The LDS Conference Center where the Mormon Tabernacle Choir hold their Christmas concerts has a capacity of over 21,000, so it's nearly four times the size of the Royal Albert Hall!  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Conference_CenterRichard  |
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Post by Dave on Dec 28, 2011 12:24:07 GMT
Hi Libby and everyone,
I too applaud your efforts to make something happen here, but at best, you are likely to (continue to) get a non-specific "thanks for your suggestion" or "is in our future plans" kind of response. Time will tell if anything comes of it and even then, you may never find out if it was your own or other fans' efforts, or if it was already planned by one or other of the two sets of artist management. I know this from personal experience.
For example, in recent years I have urged Hayley (at concerts) and/or Bedlam/Bandana to include Vivo Per Lei in concerts, to return to Taiwan for concerts (after the World Games) and more recently, to include Amalia Por Amor in concerts too, pointing out exceptionally positive fan and Youtube reaction, with stats. These did all happen - but I do not know and may never know how much (if any) influence my suggestions and our fan reaction had on the decisions to go ahead. Of course, any suggestions we do make are more likely to be taken on board if we can support them by specific evidence that they will work. I am careful not to overdo it though, for obvious reasons.
From time to time, Bandana do ask for fan feedback on certain issues and if the US comes up, I will be sure to mention your Mormon Tabernacle Choir idea. And of course, they may pick up on it anyway, either directly from here in the forum or from your other communications about it.
Cheers, Dave
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Post by Richard on Dec 28, 2011 15:21:47 GMT
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Post by Libby on Dec 28, 2011 20:03:29 GMT
Hello Libby! The LDS Conference Center where the Mormon Tabernacle Choir hold their Christmas concerts has a capacity of over 21,000, so it's nearly four times the size of the Royal Albert Hall! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Conference_CenterRichard Wow, I knew it looked big! They only pan the audience for a few seconds at a time, so it's hard to fully absorb its size just by that. |
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Post by Libby on Dec 28, 2011 20:21:58 GMT
Hi Libby and everyone, I too applaud your efforts to make something happen here, but at best, you are likely to (continue to) get a non-specific "thanks for your suggestion" or "is in our future plans" kind of response. Time will tell if anything comes of it and even then, you may never find out if it was your own or other fans' efforts, or if it was already planned by one or other of the two sets of artist management. I know this from personal experience. Dave, that's not the point here. I'm not doing this in hopes this will come about just because of me. Sure, it would be fun knowing it was me. I never said anything about taking credit for it. My first letter regarding this was to the MTC themselves, of course. I had the idea, and wanted to share it with them, just in case they hadn't thought of her before. There was no way for me to know she was already in their plans - no, "Definitely" in their plans! I would MUCH rather they already want her to do it, without me writing to them. If my letter was the first time they'd ever heard of her, or ever thought about having her on, it would probably be that much longer before they would ever have her on. As you say, we may never know if things happen because of our efforts. If this does happen, I'm not going to take credit for it. The only thing my efforts may do is to speed up the process. Yes, she was already on their list, but the fact that someone took the time to write in wanting to see her on their show might make them be more likely to do it sooner rather than later. But, if Hayley does get to sing for The Hobbit movie, I might take a tiny bit of credit. Yes, PJ and team probably would have considered her without my letters. But, I think I was very convincing in my letter. I made a very good case for Hayley. Hayley will be more likely to be chosen because they will be more likely to take a second look at Hayley. I brought up all the positive things about Hayley that would best fit the movie soundtrack. I brought up the fact she sang for 1 of Howard Shore's LOTR symphonies. I told them the wonderful compliments movie composers Debbie Wiseman and Ennio Morricone said about her voice. I used those compliments to explain how Hayley's voice could possibly be best utilized in the movie. So, maybe they would already choose her themselves, but not necessarily. Hayley will be that much more prominent in their minds. My intent is only to encourage/hasten the process, not necessarily to cause it. |
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Post by Dave on Dec 28, 2011 20:29:46 GMT
Hi Libby and everyone, I too applaud your efforts to make something happen here, but at best, you are likely to (continue to) get a non-specific "thanks for your suggestion" or "is in our future plans" kind of response. Time will tell if anything comes of it and even then, you may never find out if it was your own or other fans' efforts, or if it was already planned by one or other of the two sets of artist management. I know this from personal experience. Dave, that's not the point here. I'm not doing this in hopes this will come about just because of me. Sure, it would be fun knowing it was me. I never said anything about taking credit for it. Hi Libby, I am not suggesting that you wanted that, in fact the thought has never crossed my mind. it was just a note to add my own experience to yours so don't read too much into it. Dave |
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Post by martindn on Dec 28, 2011 22:45:12 GMT
Hi Libby and Dave,
Yes that's the way it goes. I have made suggestions myself, and sometimes they have apparently been siezed upon. But you can never be sure, and should never assume you have the right to take the credit.
For me and I'm sure for both of you too, our suggestions to various people are all about helping Hayley, and opening doors for her. Of course it would be nice to know that we had helped her career in some way, but it is probably also better for us if we don't know. In the end the talent is Hayley's, the voice is Hayley's, and all we do is try to draw people's attention to it. We know if we do that, it is Hayley's talent that will need to convince them. And I'm sure that that will be no problem.
Martin D
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Post by tireman on Dec 29, 2011 0:07:40 GMT
Hi Libby
Again I thank you for you endless efforts to promote Hayley. I agree with you that an appearance with the MTC would be a large step for her in gaining recognition in the U S.
If MTC would invite her to an event I really believe it would be a great opportunity for her to garner a huge American audience. I think it would be Worth canceling another appearance to perform with them.
Larry
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Post by Libby on Dec 29, 2011 8:11:17 GMT
Hi Libby and Dave, Yes that's the way it goes. I have made suggestions myself, and sometimes they have apparently been siezed upon. But you can never be sure, and should never assume you have the right to take the credit. For me and I'm sure for both of you too, our suggestions to various people are all about helping Hayley, and opening doors for her. Of course it would be nice to know that we had helped her career in some way, but it is probably also better for us if we don't know. In the end the talent is Hayley's, the voice is Hayley's, and all we do is try to draw people's attention to it. We know if we do that, it is Hayley's talent that will need to convince them. And I'm sure that that will be no problem. Martin D Yes, that's it exactly. This was just one of my ideas for helping Hayley be well-known in the US. Or at least within the Mormon community, but it seems that the show has a lot wider audience than just Mormons. I was introduced to the choir by my mom (who is not a Mormon, but her sister is), because she has always liked their version of the Hallelujah chorus, and watches the Christmas show every year. I only started paying attention to it several years ago. I remember seeing Renee Fleming on, and I recognized her name from the LOTR soundtrack, so I was very much interested. I think I've seen every show since then. I may not be able to take credit for any future appearance with the MTC, but at least I accomplished something; I found out that they already want her on the show! That's very exciting to me. It leads me to hope she'll be on sometime in the near future. Of course, I'll be all the more anxious every year, anticipating the announcement of who's going to be on, though. Thanks for your comments, too, Larry. I appreciate them. |
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Post by Richard on Dec 29, 2011 8:40:37 GMT
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Post by Joe on Dec 29, 2011 20:00:40 GMT
HI all, I listened to a radio broadcast of the MTC...and Bryn Terfel was one of the guest performers! In this broadcast was a marvellous rendition of 'Angels From The Realms Of Glory - with the Choir and Frederica von Stade. www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5kcu0hzPi0&feature=relatedHave a great evening! Joe |
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Post by Libby on Dec 30, 2011 7:03:44 GMT
You're welcome, Richard. And I guess I'll have to follow them, too. I want to know the minute they announce next year's performers, and when the tickets go on sale. This year's apparently went on sale Oct. 8th, so I'll have to watch for it in late September, or thereabouts. I just looked at their page, and they have some pics of Nathan Gunn & Jane Seymour from this year's recording. And the CD with David is 50% off! Hey, maybe they'll put the one with Hayley on sale, too, when (yes, when) it comes out. |
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So, I think that helps a lot. And when I wrote to both Bedlam and Bandana, I told them what they said. I think this will help her management be more likely to say yes, anyway. 
