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Post by ther00kie16 on Nov 14, 2011 13:56:16 GMT
Hi everyone. I've come across this site multiple times in the past before but never joined to post. Now, I'd like to ask everyone's expertise in determining whether or not the WITA on ebay currently is real or fake. www.ebay.com/itm/Hayley-Westenra-Walking-Air-Demo-CD-New-Zealand-cdhw001-/250931625242Now compare to an example from this forum: hwi.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Otheralbums&thread=2051&page=4#84628Everything looks good except for the lack of Hayley's name on the CD itself. There are faint yellow markings so I'm curious if it could have worn off somehow. Also, the insert's image doesn't seem to be positioned exactly although that could be due to photography skills. The seller had sold a copy of WITA last December with positive feedback from the buyer. However, the lack of Hayley's name on the CD, the fact that the seller originally registered in Malaysia and the location of the CD is Hong Kong do raise some flags. The seller has a good history though dating back a few years selling different CDs. Of course, I will be contacting the seller but just wanted expert opinions. |
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Post by comet on Nov 14, 2011 14:57:59 GMT
The internal part of the case is of the wrong type.
The originals came with a clear insert.
It is far easier to determine that an item is NOT AN ORIGINAL than it is to be totally sure that it IS AN ORIGINAL.
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Post by grant on Nov 14, 2011 15:23:08 GMT
I would put money on both copies being fake.  |
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Post by dutchjoyce on Nov 14, 2011 17:16:40 GMT
Using my "pink umbrella"...says the WITA from Hong Kong
is 100 % .... a FAKE one !!!.....
Greetz....
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Post by Bamafan on Nov 15, 2011 23:11:49 GMT
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Post by grant on Nov 16, 2011 0:28:42 GMT
This copy has been on ebay before I believe. I asked the seller (who is NOT based in New Zealand) about its origins and was told it was a gift to someone by Hayley's father Gerald.
I also asked for information on a certain detail that would prove it to be genuine but this was not forthcoming. I have therefore deduced that it is another fake.
As for the poster, it's hard to be certain BUT, again the seller is in Hong Kong.
Best wishes
Grant
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Post by ther00kie16 on Dec 4, 2011 13:12:23 GMT
Sorry I didn't follow up sooner. Seller claimed he bought the CD in a NZ store a few years ago for $600. He seemed very disinterested at first to answer any questions, which for something that he paid $600 for and is trying to sell seems questionable. My next discovery: www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=428380342Too bad I can't get one of these limited runs of 1000 either since it's NZ only. |
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Post by frenchie on Apr 28, 2016 21:49:09 GMT
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Post by comet on May 5, 2016 4:23:10 GMT
well done someone, one bid and no competition, if it had stayed at 0 bids I would have had a go in the last few seconds. I'm off back to bed now  I couldn't sleep knowing there was a WITA up for grabs.  |
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Post by comet on Dec 17, 2019 11:16:00 GMT
If it is a genuine Walking in the Air it will have an IFPI number in the matrix ring on the mirror side of the cd.
it is in half millimeter letters under the asterisks left of the * * CDH. IFPI L283. You will need a good magnifying glass to see it, or perhaps the zoom on your phone camera could pick it up, it is tiny type.
Interestingly the same IFPI number is on Hayley's 2001 album Hayley Westenra Universal Music NZ Ltd 0142852 which also has the same case type as the original WITA and was produced by the same company in New Zealand.
SID codes (Source Identification Codes) were introduced in 1994 by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) in order to help combat piracy. The mastering SID code is usually found in the matrix area/mirror band of a CD.
The bad news for some people is, if it does not have the IFPI number it is a fake, The fake ones have been sold at a rate of about one a month for the last eight years or more on various sites.
For more information on this subject just Google IFPI numbers on cd.
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Post by comet on Dec 18, 2019 12:33:10 GMT
The mobile phone is the business for zooming in on the tiny details in the middle of a cd, turn the cd over in the case and place it flat on the table in good light from the sides, use a cup, glass tumbler, bean tin or a small stack of cd cases to support the camera in a flat position half resting on the top of the tin the lens end overhanging the cd you want to examine, keep a finger on the camera to stop it tumbling off the tin, you can now zoom and adjust focus on your camera quite easily, you may need to rotate the cd to get it to catch the light on the details you are after. Above method also good for shooting small objects, jewellery, creepie crawlies, small flowers etc.
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