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Post by xanadu66 on Jan 31, 2011 11:56:24 GMT
According to your schedules section, Hayley appeared in concert far more in previous years than she did last year. It seems there were about 100 appearances in 2006, 76 in 2007, 52 in 2008 and 71 in 2009. But in 2010, there were only 19. Why so few and can we expect more this year?
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Post by Dave on Jan 31, 2011 13:43:36 GMT
Hi xanadu66, In short, it's probably the new album and the management change. Hayley spent a large part of the year working on the new album and it would have been unwise to schedule many concerts or tours during this period, especially when it was more complicated than usual due to the collaboration with Ennio Morricone and his people In the second half of the year, there was the management change (September/October) so following that, the new management would have had to get up to speed not only with Hayley's career to date and the album situation, but to agree the future direction of Hayley's career. Only now may they be finally getting to grips with it all so in short, last year there was too much happening to plan many concerts or tours. 2011 will probably be planned around the album release, whenever that may be, I expect to see more concerts this year than last, but I have no idea where or when. I don't mind the delays because it hopefully means that a lot of careful planning is happening in the background, something that is definitely needed so I am happy to let them just get on with it.  Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Martin on Jan 31, 2011 13:50:56 GMT
Hi Xanadu66 A good question and we all wish we knew the answer!  It is worth noting that 2006 and 2007 were exceptional years due to the very large tours of Il Divo and Celtic Woman so these weren't really "Hayley" concerts. Year 2009 was then a catch up year for postponed concerts from 2008 when Hayley was quite ill. I suppose the average number of solo concerts expected would be around 50 worldwide but still 2010 was much less than this figure. We can therefore only speculate but I am sure that change of management and certainly the recording of the Morricone album influenced the plans for concerts during the year. Also, of course there were some concerts cancelled due perhaps to these reasons. We are now crossing our fingers that the balance will be restored in 2011 which it may well be if there is a large tour planned to promote the new album. Best wishes Martin |
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Post by Libby on Jan 31, 2011 20:25:07 GMT
To me, it's more unusual that she tours every year. Many other artists only tour when they have a new album to promote. And last year's touring was partly for the Battle of Britain tour. If not for that, she would have had even fewer concerts. Well, probably.
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Post by martindn on Jan 31, 2011 21:05:50 GMT
Hayley does a lot of charity concerts, perhaps a third of all that she does. I'm sure this is her own choice, and both her fans and the charities are happy about that I'm sure.
I could speculate that she doesn't need to do so many now as she once did, she is now established as an artist, and she knows whatever she does will be supported by her solid fanbase. So she can take things a bit easier, and I don't blame her for doing so.
But, we don't really know that she is taking it easier. Her Christmas tour last year was her best yet, and on each of the admittedly only 3 occasions that I saw her perform last year, she was absolutely brilliant. To turn out performances like those must take many hours of planning and rehearsal. That's before we think about what went into her far eastern tour. And as you say Dave, there is the album. My feeling was that she changed direction partway through, Ennio M wasn't involved to start with, OK, that's speculation too, all I know is he wasn't mentioned by Hayley who seemed to be writing her own stuff, but my feeling is that when that opportunity came along it was too good to miss. So the original idea for the album went on the back burner, and she concentrated on working with Ennio, involving writing lyrics for some at least of the songs. This meant she didn't really get going with the live performances until August.
This year there is an album to promote, and like Dave I would expect her to do a lot more concerts in a lot more countries. We might actually see less of her in the UK though, and those who follow her everywhere could be in for a lot of travelling.
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Post by Libby on Feb 1, 2011 4:56:39 GMT
Or less travelling, depending on who you're referring to. Such as Larry.  |
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Post by xanadu66 on Feb 1, 2011 12:06:59 GMT
Hi xanadu66, In short, it's probably the new album and the management change. Fair enough, Dave, thanks. Yes, she and her new managers would need a settling in period especially if they are considering her future direction – which is as it should be. But if the change didn’t occur until September, there were still eight months (Jan to August) during which time there were only eight concerts. I can’t believe that was because of the new album especially as it still hasn’t been released. Hi Xanadu66 A good question and we all wish we knew the answer! It is worth noting that 2006 and 2007 were exceptional years due to the very large tours of Il Divo and Celtic Woman so these weren't really "Hayley" concerts. Year 2009 was then a catch up year for postponed concerts from 2008 when Hayley was quite ill. Indeed so, Martin. It is those appearances in which she is guesting with other established performers that will increase her fanbase and her popularity. I am surprised that something along those lines hasn’t happened for so long. To me, it's more unusual that she tours every year. Many other artists only tour when they have a new album to promote. And last year's touring was partly for the Battle of Britain tour. If not for that, she would have had even fewer concerts. Well, probably. Yes Libby, it is usual for a new album to be promoted by a tour that coincides with its release but most artists will make additional tours between albums. And Hayley’s albums seem to be few and far between – only four since 2003 (not including compilations and the Japanese ones which are of limited availability). That would equate to only four tours in all that time which isn’t enough to maintain a sufficiently high profile. That was not the case in the past of course as there were many tours as you suggest - but not last year. I could speculate that she doesn't need to do so many now as she once did, she is now established as an artist, and she knows whatever she does will be supported by her solid fanbase. So she can take things a bit easier Ah, but that was one of my reasons for asking the question. Is she more established now than she was a few years ago? My research suggests not. I followed her career briefly a few years ago and asked friends and colleagues if they knew her. Roughly half of them knew of her name, had seen her on television and commented favourably. One or two had her first CD. Now, when I ask the same question, the great majority have no idea who I am talking about or, at best, will say something like, “is she the Australian one” or “the one like Charlotte Church”. Two recently asked, “oh, is she still around?” I accept my research is far from conclusive but it suggests that she is less well known now than she was when she first hit the international arena. Anyway, thanks for all your thoughts. |
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Post by Dave on Feb 1, 2011 14:39:47 GMT
Hi xanadu66, In short, it's probably the new album and the management change. Fair enough, Dave, thanks. Yes, she and her new managers would need a settling in period especially if they are considering her future direction – which is as it should be. But if the change didn’t occur until September, there were still eight months (Jan to August) during which time there were only eight concerts. I can’t believe that was because of the new album especially as it still hasn’t been released. Hello xanadu66, The Morricone album would have been agreed in (probably late) 2009 and was originally planned for recording in May/June 2010, with an Autumn release date. Preparations for such a major album would have been planned for during the first half of the year and few(er) concerts scheduled to keep the decks clear. Presumably, quite a few concerts and promotional appearances would have been arranged near to and following the album release date i.e. from September to December and possibly into 2011. But recording was delayed and seems to have dragged on through much of the summer so at some point, it must have been decided to defer the release until this year, with any plans for promos and supporting concerts also being deferred. After that, there was the management change. So even when allowing for the major tours with Il Divo and Celtic Woman in earlier years, I will stick with my previous comment that the main reasons for Hayley having relatively few concerts in 2010 were the album and the management change. Dave |
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Post by xanadu66 on Feb 2, 2011 12:00:27 GMT
Thanks Dave. I wasn't doubting your integrity; merely shocked that the production of an album could cutail her availability for concerts for so long.
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Post by martindn on Feb 2, 2011 21:42:40 GMT
I think she put a lot of effort into this album. And as I said before, I suspect she may have changed direction part way through. After all, it took a long time to make Pure, including a first attempt at the whole album that was discarded. How long did that take I wonder?
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