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Post by Dennis S. on Oct 27, 2010 4:54:16 GMT
Can this album be purchased in digital (mp3) format?
I know the CDs can be purchased from CDJapan, but I don't have portable devices capable of playing them...
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Post by mihizawi on Oct 27, 2010 19:12:15 GMT
You could always purchase the album on CD and rip the tracks into mp3. For personal use, I understand it's totally legal, and Windows Media Player has a very easy way of doing it for free (and I am sure there are many more prograsms to do this).
Michal
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Post by Libby on Oct 27, 2010 21:38:51 GMT
Yes, you can rip it, and then transfer it onto an mp3 player. As long as the CD is yours, the mp3 song is yours, too!
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Post by Dennis S. on Oct 28, 2010 2:34:23 GMT
OK, I've decided to order from CDJapan.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
On a side note, everything in Japan is super expensive, makes me wonder how the Japanese manage to survive...
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Post by stevemacdonald on Oct 28, 2010 18:37:54 GMT
http://www. [link deleted by Dave, see 5 posts down]
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Post by comet on Oct 28, 2010 22:23:44 GMT
Japanese songs and Winter Magic for under $2 each  I didn't realise downloads were so cheap. Does this mean the end for the CD....  |
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Post by Libby on Oct 29, 2010 5:17:41 GMT
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Post by spiderman on Oct 29, 2010 6:54:45 GMT
there is a certain traditional appeal to an actual CD, which i think will keep them safe for awhile. however, if fast reliable chinese sites have them for only a few dollars this could be a problem.... for some non-fans having the cheap version will do [the popularity of youtube downloads is an example] and it could bring about some changes... probably legal penalties.. rather than a nepotistic move to added value CDs [by this i mean, purchase incentives] or taking a more realistic attitude to pricing |
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Post by Dennis S. on Oct 30, 2010 4:44:08 GMT
Japanese songs and Winter Magic for under $2 each I didn't realise downloads were so cheap. Does this mean the end for the CD.... Those are Halloween weekend pricing only. I doubt any artist can make any money selling their music for that price long term. I still wonder how that site manage to pull it off though, they'll still have to pay full royalty for all the stuff they sell for pennies. As for non-fans, they won't pay a penny either way, youtube or not, they'll just bounce from one file swapping site to another. |
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Post by Dave on Oct 30, 2010 13:42:07 GMT
Japanese songs and Winter Magic for under $2 each I didn't realise downloads were so cheap. Does this mean the end for the CD.... I doubt any artist can make any money selling their music for that price long term. I still wonder how that site manage to pull it off though, they'll still have to pay full royalty for all the stuff they sell for pennies. Well yes and no, mainly no. Apparently, this site is legal under Russian and Belarus law, so cannot be shut down, but the US and UK music authorities (RIAA/BPI) view it in the same waY as allofmp3.com which they sued and had shut down a few years ago. Similar sites that then sprung up made slight changes to remain legal under Russian law. But there seems to be a consensus that very little if any royalty payments collected from these bargain basement mp3 sale sites ever reach the record companies, artists or composers - some claim that the Russian/Belarus sites are effectively legalized piracy. For anyone interested in the background, there is discussion about it here and there is also some information about these sites in Wikipedia. In the circumstances, I do not think Hayley, her management or record company would wish us to link to these sites and I will remove the link from the posts just above here. Dave |
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Post by comet on Oct 30, 2010 14:59:28 GMT
I once bought what I thought were legitimate cds (That were unavailable elsewhere) from what appeared to be a legitimate supplier. They used wording that implied they were in the USA. Like : "Best us dollar prices available" They were priced in $US. but were charged to my Credit Card account in Roubles. When the CDs arrived from Russia the proved to be dreadful copies of various previous releases and nicked video from YouTube or some similar source. and these people had my credit card details  needless to say the credit card was canceled hastily and I was much more cautious about who I bought from on line after that .. The music I wanted was The Traveling Wilbury's, one of the double cds advertised was called The Unreleased Masters, Which implied original masters were used, which was just such an irresistible temptation to me. I suppose if I came across a site advertising Hayley Westenra - Pure - the previously unreleased Irish version. I would be just to tempted to resist that one either.. |
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Post by Dennis S. on Oct 30, 2010 15:26:52 GMT
I doubt any artist can make any money selling their music for that price long term. I still wonder how that site manage to pull it off though, they'll still have to pay full royalty for all the stuff they sell for pennies. Well yes and no, mainly no. Apparently, this site is legal under Russian and Belarus law, so cannot be shut down, but the US and UK music authorities (RIAA/BPI) view it in the same waY as allofmp3.com which they sued and had shut down a few years ago. Similar sites that then sprung up made slight changes to remain legal under Russian law. But there seems to be a consensus that very little if any royalty payments collected from these bargain basement mp3 sale sites ever reach the record companies, artists or composers - some claim that the Russian/Belarus sites are effectively legalized piracy. For anyone interested in the background, there is discussion about it here and there is also some information about these sites in Wikipedia. In the circumstances, I do not think Hayley, her management or record company would wish us to link to these sites and I will remove the link from the posts just above here. Dave Phew, that was really close, I was just about to buy stuff from them yesterday... Looks like I need to stick with proven vendors like Marbecks or Amazon for my MP3 purchases. |
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Post by comet on Oct 30, 2010 21:16:49 GMT
I hate the idea of the artist not being paid for their work.
It is so little to pay for the pleasure one receives from a lifetime of listening to a good album
It is the same as breaking into their home and stealing the food out of the fridge,
their jewelry from their bedroom, their laptop,
phone and car keys and then stealing the car as well when you leave.
Thou shalt not steal
Exodus 20:1 - 17 |
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Post by spiderman on Oct 30, 2010 21:46:01 GMT
I hate the idea of the artist not being paid for their work.
It is so little to pay for the pleasure one receives from a lifetime of listening to a good album
It is the same as breaking into their home and stealing the food out of the fridge,
their jewelry from their bedroom, their laptop,
phone and car keys and then stealing the car as well when you leave.
Thou shalt not steal i agree with you in principle; however, nz copyright law only covers material that is commercially available for a reasonable price one might be tempted to argue that the recent pairing of hayley and that japanese guy, falls outside of that law because 75$ to listen to one song would not seem reasonable to most people. i would see little point in making an issue out of downloading that from youtube. ditto, WITA, which normally sells for 200$ US or more. However, we are under orders not to distribute copies of that. however deserving the requester maybe paying 2$ to download a CD as an alternative to buying in the shop is reprensible yes. however, you would not make an issue out of any member of this forum downloading one of the taiwanese videos which are linked to from this site. despite the fact that if hayley, her management, or taiwanese TV ever release that on DVd; its been retrospectively stolen. the statement you made is correct, but it has global implications make the simple biblical statement to simplistic to be rendered. im not saying its wrong, just that the wider implications of its application make it problematic. if you choose to respond to this, please take into account that im not disagreeing with you; its just i think the statement has implications that need exploring |
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Post by comet on Oct 30, 2010 22:43:25 GMT
I was mainly referring to a commercially available cds or DVDs Let's say the Winter Magic cd or the Live in New Zealand dvd the stuff on YouTube is rather a different kettle of fish. I suppose if someone downloads a load of tracks and burns them onto a cd or DVD with the intention of avoiding buying a commercially available product. Then they are just misers, may all the ghosts of Christmas visit them, and not just at Christmas, but every night  |
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