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Post by martindn on May 17, 2010 21:46:02 GMT
Well, Dave, I don't think Morricone is known for writing pop songs!! His film music it seems to me would qualify as classical, yes, perhaps even "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". That's why I would expect a Hayley/Ennio collaboration to be mostly or not entirely music that could qualify as "Classical" in the broad sense of the word as understood by Classic FM etc. I feel certain, for those who have cast doubt, that this is about the same album that Hayley has been working on. It has been made clear that this is an album, not a film score with an album based on it, like the one she did with James Horner. What other album could she be working on. Hayley's albums have never to my mind had any of the attributes of buses  What I am sure about though is that I am going to love it. I like EM's music, and of course love anything by Hayley, even songs I didn't used to like. It seems a very exciting project, the only problem being we will have to wait until the end of the yesr to hear it. Martin D |
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Post by Richard on May 18, 2010 15:00:10 GMT
Hello folks!  Here's a slightly longer version of the press release from Harmonic Artists (formerly Bedlam Artists Agency): I see the press release was timed to coincide with Hayley's appearance at the Classical BRIT Awards.  Richard  |
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Post by martindn on May 18, 2010 22:11:58 GMT
WOW, that is some accolade. I'm sure we all agree with EM on this. I was thinking about her interpretation only the other day, when playing HSJS2. It occured to me that she must have thought about exactly how she would sing every note. She didn't do that so noticably when she was younger, and this is something that Hayley has developed beautifully in the last couple of years.
We Hayleyfans are in good company.
Martin D
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Post by Libby on May 19, 2010 6:30:56 GMT
Remember how she said her next album would be "non-themed"? Wouldn't an album of all Ennio songs be sort of themed? So, doesn't that indicate there might be songs on there that are not by Ennio? I'm sure his songs are and will be nice, but come on, can't we have some variety here?
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Post by nicola on May 19, 2010 8:32:40 GMT
What makes you think there won't be variety? Morricone is has capable as writing in different styles as Hayley is (more so, even - he does have decades of experience). They're doing original songs together too. Though I admit that Rhydian's latest album was brought down by Karl Jenkins pumping all of his standard songs in. But then, he nor Rhydian composed anything new for the album.
I hope that Nella Fantasia isn't included, but I guess I need to get real, but I do look forward to her version of La Califfa.
That press release states that Pure sold four million albums. That's not right is it? Did it mean to say that she has sold four million albums in total?
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Post by Jillian on May 19, 2010 10:14:15 GMT
Hi Nicola,
Do you know something I don't about La Califfa or are you presuming it will be on there? I've had a listen on You Tube and I think that Hayley would sound amazing singing it.
I would imagine that Cinema Paradiso would also have quite a chance of being included on the album? Also Gabriel's Oboe? Has anyone ever done a vocal adaptation of 'The Good, the Bad and the Ugly'?
But who knows? Here's hoping that Morricone and Hayley either write an original or make an adaptation that reaches the popularity of songs like 'Nella Fantasia'.
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Post by nicola on May 19, 2010 10:19:26 GMT
Hey Jillian,
I am presuming. I would expect 'Nella Fantasia' (Gabriel's Oboe), 'Chi Mai', 'La Califfa' and 'Cinema Paradiso' to be on this album - they are all Morricone crossover standards. I expect, but I don't particularly want. I'd much rather have original songs or at least different adaptations of those pieces. I think Hayley would too, going by the answer to your question in my interview. So it's hard to know. I would wager that at least one or two of those pieces will make their way on to the album, though.
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Post by Jillian on May 19, 2010 12:16:35 GMT
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Post by Dave on May 19, 2010 13:32:20 GMT
Well, Dave, I don't think Morricone is known for writing pop songs!! His film music it seems to me would qualify as classical Hi Martin, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that we don't yet know (trying to separate out the speculation from what we know). Film music isn't always arranged and produced for the classical charts, which can be a bit restrictive, and some of the songs aren't going to be film music. That press release states that Pure sold four million albums. That's not right is it? Did it mean to say that she has sold four million albums in total? Hi Nicola, Yes, I think you are right (though record companies seem to have some odd ways of calculating sales!). Hi Jillian, That list is just copy-pasted from the weekly New Releases list posted in a couple of UK music forums. The guy who compiles it he does a brilliant job finding things out from various sources and in this case, I think it was the the press release that we've seen. So we can't read anything into it.  Cheers, Dave |
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Post by martindn on May 19, 2010 21:16:59 GMT
Well, I too would hope for something more original than Nella Fantasia Nicola. I don't think she needs to include it, although many would expect it.
I still hope for some of Hayley's own input into the songwriting. Perhaps it will be the lyrics. It worries me that Hayley has apparently spent the last three months writing songs, and that we might never hear them. I have enjoyed following Hayley's development as a songwriter, and when she talks about writing songs for other artists, well, I think she has to be prepared to sing them herself too. Not to hear her sing them would be a terrible waste of a developing talent.
And as for I Know You By Heart, well, perhaps the best we can hope for is a bonus track!
I really don't think we know anything now, and I am totally confused. Is Hayley becoming like Tchaikovsky and some other great composers, so brimming with brilliant ideas that a lifetime is not enough to express them all?
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Post by Jillian on May 19, 2010 21:26:57 GMT
Hi Martind, I suspect that Hayley's songwriting could well be along the lines of what she did with 'On The Wings of Time'. Ennio could have presented her with some music scores and Hayley has done up the lyrics and vocal part. It's also possible that Hayley may have put together some 'sketches' of songs and Ennio has taken them and made complete scores from them .... you never know.. Cheers, Jillian |
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Post by martindn on May 19, 2010 21:44:16 GMT
Hi Jillian,
Yes, I agree, and "On the Wings of Time" crossed my mind too. If the new album is a beautiful as that, all will be forgiven. In fact it will anyway, this is Hayley we are talking about, the finest singer I have ever heard.
It is a very dear wish of mine that Hayley gets the recognition she deserves. It sounds like Signore Morricone is a fan too. If that is the case, who knows what they will achieve together. It is not just me, Hayley really is the great artist that I see her as, despite the worst that that bitter woman, Dame Kiri can do. If a great composer and musician like EM, who spurned even Sarah Brightman, is so impressed by Hayley.... well, that is just wonderful to know.
This could just be the album that establishes Hayley as one of the all time greats. I have held the view for years that only two things can happen. Either Hayley will be recognised as the greatest singer of my lifetime, if not of all time, or she will give up. I hope for the former. And I feel sure she knows that is her destiny.
Martin D
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Post by nicola on May 19, 2010 21:51:15 GMT
I highly doubt Hayley will "give up" if she doesn't become recognised as the greatest singer. I doubt she even aims that high in the first place! XD
I'm normally cynical when it comes to composers working with crossover stars, as I think they're just getting paid a bundle, but I don't think Morricone needs the publicity nor do I believe that Decca would have forked that much out for the man. I think he really does genuinely like Hayley.
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Post by amptique on May 19, 2010 22:37:19 GMT
Hi Nicola, . . .I don't think Morricone needs the publicity nor do I believe that Decca would have forked that much out for the man. I think he really does genuinely like Hayley. I'm inclined to agree with you. From what I've read, he doesn't appear to be the type of man that does anything that he doesn't truly want to do. Nor should he. I believe that combining their talents will produce something very special indeed. I can't wait! Bill |
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Post by martindn on May 19, 2010 22:59:18 GMT
Yes, I agree, Bill and Nicola. At 80 years old, and with a wonderful career behind him, EM has nothing to prove. He is is own man, he will do what he wants to do. Money doesn't come into it, I'm sure he is financially secure.
So why would he work with Hayley? I think it can only be because as a musician, he finds her an exciting artist. Just as I and many others here do.
Just like you Bill, I can't wait. I just know this will be brilliant!
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