Hayley in the Daily Star

[sal]

Did anyone else see Hayley mentioned in the Daily Star today? I think it was in the showbiz section. It implied that there something was going on between her and Sebastien from Il Divo.

[postscript]

Hi Sal.

An interesting possible exposé. Ironically it had occurred to me that being surrounded by four males at whom many females seem to go gaga, it would not be improbable for Hayley to find at least one of them a reasonable soul mate for the duration.

If it goes beyond that, well, it is a practicable solution to her boyfriend problems in that he understands the life. I recall Hayley saying that she enjoyed Notting Hill. I wonder if the message of a love affair between an ordinary guy and a screen goddess means more to her than simply a tale?

On the other hand, now who is it, her name escapes me just as I was going to write it down, NOT Katheryn Jenkins, another English soprano in her late thirties?, who is married to a doctor. So 'ordinary lives' and 'exotic lives of divas' can work.

Hayley needs a guy, if only to gain the experience of a twosome and the ll Divo crowd seem decent enough people in themselves. As long as it does not deflect her from her focus. It is that disciplined focus of hers I so admire.
Peter

[Natasha]

I don't agree with the statement that Hayley "needs" a guy. If she gets one all the best to her. BUT many women have managed to live without them, lol.

Saying she needs a guy almost makes her sound like the "damsel in distress." And while I personally love films like “Robin Hood” with Maid Marion, and I’m sure Hayley would do a good job playing her… Hayley certainly isn’t, LOL.

[fusilier23]

Ummm, Sal, before this rumor goes too far, can you post exactly what was said? I think we'd all do better with the actual text, otherwise we'll speculate, and a lie, even an accidental one, will travel the world and back while the truth is still putting its boots on.

[stevemacdonald]

Better yet, don't repeat the tabloid report at all. Why act as yet another efficient memetic conduit for the lies and half-truths they deal in?

[Dave]

stevemacdonald said:

Better yet, don't repeat the tabloid report at all. Why act as yet another efficient memetic conduit for the lies and half-truths they deal in?

I agree with you entirely Steve (don't fall off your chair )

Must have been a quiet news day at what some people call the Daily Liar... not that i would, of course! I was initially tempted to go out and buy a copy to see what they actually said but then, I regained my senses and didn't bother! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif

There's no harm done in mentioning these things though as long as we remember that there are probably another 98 rumours to go before one of the tabloids gets it halfway right. I suppose the more rumours like this that we read about Hayley, the more established she will have become in the music industry. Oh well...

Cheers, Dave

[fusilier23]

Why? Because censoring things can lead to an untrue view of the artist. But, if the Star is called the Daily Liar in the UK, then this rumor is probably just that, and should be given appropriate weight, which is to say none.

[portia]

It's the Daily Star, people. It's probably all bullpoo.

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Highly probably Portia. Often these things are done to actually create something that 'isn't' there just to see the reaction and from the reaction discover what was there but wasn't known!

Provocation may well, be the game.
Peter

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Hi Dave

There's no harm done in mentioning these things though as long as we remember that there are probably another 98 rumours to go before one of the tabloids gets it halfway right. I suppose the more rumours like this that we read about Hayley, the more established she will have become in the music industry. Oh well...

Absolutely right and one of the reasons I responded as I did originally. It is essential not only that Hayley does not respond but we, her supporters, do not panic either but are seen to take these things in our stride. One way of creating controversy for Hayley would be to cause any of us to react negatively. We need to remember that we may well be monitored by the 'evil press', hidden as 'visitors'.

Let's face it. She has been young, vulnerable and therefore unfair bait. Now, she is an adult in the eyes certainly of the UK and gaining self-confidence. She is therefore increasingly 'fair game' in the eyes of the lascivious media and the British press are pretty empty-headed and irresponsible. But as has been rightly said, who or what is The Daily Star? Needing publicity and it has attracted minor attention here but seemingly nowhere else. Job done. Mission failure. No response. But it is a good warning shot across the bows that we need to be seen to take things in our stride' just as Hayley does and I think we did!

Peter

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Good point fusilier.

Perhaps we should make it a rule not to quote hearsay but in referring to alleged reporting always quote it verbatim from source. We need to look ahead and as Dave, I think, commented, were such press attention to seriously arise (as it probably will in the future) it is indicative of her being established, which isn't a bad thing. There are always pluses and minuses to 'moving on'.

Peter

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classicgrace said:

I don't agree with the statement that Hayley "needs" a guy. If she gets one all the best to her. BUT many women have managed to live without them, lol.

Saying she needs a guy almost makes her sound like the "https://i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifamsel in distress." And while I personally love films like “Robin Hood” with Maid Marion, and I’m sure Hayley would do a good job playing her… Hayley certainly isn’t, LOL.

Hi classigrace. You make a couple of good points with which I have empathy. Perhaps I expressed myself badly. I was thinking solely in the context of the average teenager and school-type relationships that ebb and flow automatically. This she herself has acknowledged she has missed out on and she does lead a life where that aspect is cut out by default of circumstances. But she can bide her time and her single-mindedness is without doubt a very great strength which I would certaibnly not wish to see her loosen up on at this juncture in her career.

Peter

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I was thinking of Lesley Garrett. Richard gave me the name unknowingly when he posted news of a multi-talented CD just published.

Peter

[fusilier23]

Well, she avoided a lot of other problems that befell someone else because she was already, ahem, physically mature by the time she was famous, so she didn't have to "blossom" in front of the cameras with attendant drooling, salacious comments.

But, like it or not, Hayley's an adult any way you slice it, on either side of the Atlantic, so any level of relationship shouldn't bother us. One hopes, however, that she and her management will handle it tastefully, and she won't dish the gory details in an interview, in fact if she thinks about that either Gerald or Steve A should give her a shake to bring her back to reality.

I know Simon's big into freedom of the press, but I do believe that we should all act responsibly, and that means quoting sources verbatim, not just passing along silly rumors and definitely not adding our own twist to the mix. Censorship will simply give the fans a skewed view of Hayley, and possibly keep important developments out of circulation.

[Dave Gibson]

Peter,when you mentioned Hayley's focus,["As long as it does not deflect her from her focus. It is that disciplined focus of hers I so admire."], it struck a chord with me as I thought of my own life at that age of 19. Let's just say it was not a discipline of focus.
Good point chap,
Cheers,Dave Gibson