Bill
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Post by Bill on Dec 2, 2009 19:40:29 GMT
Hi All,
Having enjoyed another fabulous show by Hayley last week, I'm left deeply disappointed by how sales (or lack of them) of 'Winter Magic' is going.
Who's to blame is not the question. Complaining won't get us far. Moaning on here may make us feel better briefly, but doesn't benefit Hayley. After all, this site is here to support her.
I think we need to do something positive. Think of the Twitter 'Hall of Fame' vote and what we managed.
One idea would be for us to start 'Hayley Westenra:Appreciation Thread' on various popular general music forums. All it would take is for a few members to keep posting on that thread to keep bumping it to the top. It would keep Hayley's name in people's minds.
In the UK, Digital Spy is a large entertainment website with a busy music forum. I think Rhydian has his own appreciation thread somewhere. Also, this site allows posting of links to Youtube. So this may be a starting point if anyone is interested.
Never underestimate what a small number of dedicated people can do!
Regards Bill
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Post by martindn on Dec 2, 2009 20:50:54 GMT
Hi Bill,
Well, I'm up for it. As you say, we need to do something.
Martin
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Post by BenCMitchell on Dec 2, 2009 21:04:00 GMT
Hi Bill
I'm also up for a bit of Hayley promotion - maybe we can do a better job than her record label and management have done in terms of promoting her music to the millions out there!
Cheers, Ben
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Post by amptique on Dec 2, 2009 21:14:59 GMT
Hello Bill, Count me in. Just name the what, when, where, and how. Bill (US)
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Post by nicola on Dec 2, 2009 22:35:55 GMT
I'm a member of these forums:
Aled Jones (Official) All Angels (Official) Jonathan Ansell (Official) Will Martin (Official) Sarah Brightman (Official - very, very busy) Sarah Brightman (SB2K) Digital Spy Jon Christos (Official) Libera Russell Watson (Official) Russell Watson (Fan - they hate me there though) Camilla Kerslake (Official) Andrea Bocelli Josh Groban (Yuka - Libby already has a Hayley thread there) ClassicalX
I get around. I'll start some threads, or push some up. Will provide links once done! x x
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Jillian
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Post by Jillian on Dec 3, 2009 0:22:56 GMT
HI, I've just registered for a digital spy account -- they have to be manually verified by their support team, but when I'm all set up, I intend to start a 'Hayley Westenra Appreciation' thread on there.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Dec 3, 2009 2:13:19 GMT
Hi Jillian and everyone,
Do take care on Digital Spy, I think they they have particular rules for 'Appreciation Threads' particularly in the Big Brother and other Reality TV boards, where there are even official guidelines for them!
It may be better to resurrect one of the old Hayley Westenra threads in the Music board, from a while back - I am sure there are one or two there buried, somewhere!
Don't expect it to get much attention though, most of the traffic for singers is in the reality TV forums (like Rhydian) where, obviously, Hayley doesn't fit.
On a general purpose forum like that, you are liable to get the occasional "can't stand her" or trolling posts as well and there's no way of stopping them as "Appreciation Threads" have no official status outside the Reality TV boards.
Cheers, Dave
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Jillian
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Post by Jillian on Dec 3, 2009 3:46:46 GMT
Hi Dave, There's a 'Tori Amos Appreciation' thread in the music section that seems to be going fairly well, so you never know!
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Post by Libby on Dec 3, 2009 6:15:44 GMT
I don't see why you would need to add Appreciation to the title. Every forum I sign up for now, I add a Hayley thread. In fact, there are some where I signed up for just to add it. Of course, I don't sign up for it unless it's something I'm interested in, and I usually don't post very often since I don't have much time, but I do check occasionally to see if there are any responses. I will say that everytime I've received a response, the people have all heard of Hayley before and are fans of hers. I'm disappointed not to have any new fans yet, but at least I've alerted some fans of albums they wouldn't have known about without me!
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Jillian
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Post by Jillian on Dec 3, 2009 6:23:26 GMT
Hi Libby, At Digital Spy 'Appreciation' is added because it's their traditional way of naming threads designed to support arttists. Oh, and you did get new fans from your efforts! I'd never heard of Josh Groban until you mentioned him! After so many little mentions from you, I saw his greatest hits in the shops and decided to buy it totally on a whim! I now own every CD/DVD he's released!! Now I'm out spreading the good word!! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif So this sort of stuff can work!
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Post by comet on Dec 3, 2009 11:01:31 GMT
Hi Dave, There's a 'Tori Amos Appreciation' thread in the music section that seems to be going fairly well, so you never know! Hayley knocked Tori Amos and Nana Mouskouri of the top female vocalists for me. at the risk of sounding like a PRE-RECORDED MESSAGEE-mail the radio stations
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Bill
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Post by Bill on Dec 3, 2009 12:40:34 GMT
Hi Jillian and everyone, Do take care on Digital Spy, I think they they have particular rules for 'Appreciation Threads' particularly in the Big Brother and other Reality TV boards, where there are even official guidelines for them! It may be better to resurrect one of the old Hayley Westenra threads in the Music board, from a while back - I am sure there are one or two there buried, somewhere! Don't expect it to get much attention though, most of the traffic for singers is in the reality TV forums (like Rhydian) where, obviously, Hayley doesn't fit. On a general purpose forum like that, you are liable to get the occasional "can't stand her" or trolling posts as well and there's no way of stopping them as "Appreciation Threads" have no official status outside the Reality TV boards. Cheers, Dave Thanks Dave, 1. I think Digital Spy would be a good starting point, but NOT with an 'Appreciation' thread. Something like 'Hayley Westenra: One of the most beautiful voices'...etc. We need to keep the thread in the general music forum. 2. Don't think it's worthwhile to resurrect or start new threads on Aled Jones, J Ansell sites. Pretty sure most traffic on those sites will already know who Hayley is. 3. Point taken with trolls and WUMs on these sites. Just ignore them and keep the thread positive. Regards Bill
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Jillian
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Post by Jillian on Dec 3, 2009 13:18:36 GMT
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 3, 2009 15:53:33 GMT
Don't forget, too, that the number of people who post in a thread is only a tiny fraction of the number of people who READ the thread. Even if you only get responses from people who know who she is, that doesn't mean others won't find themselves intrigued and check her out.
It's one of the curses of internet promotion that you will never, ever, know exactly how successful your efforts are.
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What you are really talking about here is an unofficial 'Hayley Westenra Street Team'. Make sure you don't get over-enthusiastic and start spamming, though. SO easy to do and then fans of other musicians will get cross at Hayley and her fans, which is not good...
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Bill
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Post by Bill on Dec 3, 2009 19:47:52 GMT
Hi Jillian, Well done for getting the ball rolling! I've registered with DS and should be able to post on the thread over the weekend. Must be a few more HWI members who can help out? Regards Bill
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